Depends on the dialog box? Perhaps, you would like to save the info for a time when you can use it... sure you can cp & paste it, but y'know, choices and enabling technologies yada yada yada
I don't flaming run Windows! Or Gnome! I don't go for the default necessarily. It was more an expression of my disgust with distros for making Gnome the default than any particular familiarity with either. I'm disgruntled that it is assumed if you run OSS, you run Gnome. I only every come across them when I'm fixing something for someone with one or the other. They are pains in the rear end.
For all the innuendo that KDE is like Windows, it is bewildering to me under that logic that most commercial projects have Gnome as their default when Windows has market share they are trying to abscond. I keep trying it to find out what everyone is raving about to only find that they are raving. Raving mad.
I'm happy with using distros that do default to KDE or other environments, but strangely they are becoming rare. All reviews and progress of upcoming features seem to focus on Gnome.
If I truly cared I would bug fix, whine etc to Gnome devs. I don't care enough but doesn't mean not I'm disgruntled with the general perception outside of OSS users that Gnome is better, simpler, more correct than KDE. I get they are both heavy.
I'm happy with WindowMaker. Would prefer E17, but can't be bothered sorting through all the issues again.
It is stupid, and now I feel stupid for delving down to the level of Gnome users. ( ==== there people/mods, that is flamebait; my original comment was mere differing opinion!)
I agree with pp. I did over-generalise; thank you to all those other suggestions of how I should use(utilise?) my OS -- I may keep them in mind as I use my KDE & WM desktops in future.
Isn't one of the 'features' of pdf that it is for document exchange? One of the talking points was that it "couldn't be changed" by the end viewer. Bollocks of course, but there aren't very many good native-pdf word processors.
I believe they were designed to replace printouts unless a print version was actually needed, not be the printout vector themselves. The idea that end to end would look the same no matter what was used to view it. acroread, other pdf reader, or paper.
Html attacks a similar problem, but not the same problem.
ODF was to restrain the problem of data being held hostage in a proprietary format. The most recognised targets were.doc &.xls but not limited to them.
Pdf is a different problem though. An earlier version has been a public standard (OSI? That one that Microsoft gamed with those single use countries...;)
How does Apples keep a track of Applications? Isn't it just by dropping them into the Applications directory? I'm not sure that Apple hasn't already done what itunes does without itunes.
And when you reply to give feed back to shows (this irks me particularly on current affairs type shows), they give you a 8mm x 5mm box to fit a response into. gah
I know that there's a lot of developers out there that argue that Open Office is good enough, but, its really not. People that use Word or Excel -really- use them and there's a lot of features in both that OO really lacks. The startup time of OO is bad enough.
*Some* users of MS Office 'really' use them. In the multitude of organisations (including universities) over the past 10 - 15 years I've had personal experience with, I can think of ~10 people (note! People)who don't just use MS Office as a reviewing device or 'table' creator. Most of those truly needing MS Office is only because they have written their macros in Excel. Now had they been shown how to script in a cross-platform language, they would not be reliant on Excel. I have yet to meet anyone who needed the features that only MS Word has.
I agree I haven't had a great deal of experience with computer use outside of mining, education, manufacture, and service industries, but I'm sure that most people in the above industries could get away with more cost effective programs designed for more specialised tasks than Office. Instead, we have a status quo of shoe-horning Office to do more task less efficiently.
If you're using wikipedia for your "scientific" research....you have no "common wisdom."
You're actually still a lay-person that needs a cure for your ignorance."So being a lay-person, there's some existing common wisdom"....."Wiki says...."
Wouldn't Wikipedia be a great definition of 'common wisdom'? Some may argue that common wisdom is an oxymoron... but that is another day's work.
Mate, go read a developers mailing list of any of major FOSS project you so choose. Then come back and make the same arguments again as honestly as you can in light of what you read.
The vilification of supposedly stupid security mistakes put me off trying to understand good programming by reading mailing lists. No body trusts anybody. And then the way they bandy around other projects tackle similar problems shows that they are often very familiar with the other projects code too. These people are paranoid, suffer with OCD.
Then, it becomes obvious that both NSA and Microsoft. NSA wrote patches and a system for improving security under linux. Microsoft reviewed the code to uncover 235 patent infringements.
Okay, think of it more this way. Geeks are renown for being rather socially inept. They need an interface between them and the people they deliver service to, so that the geeks can yabba away in that technobable (not marketing buzzwords, lawyer bluff or political speak, but actually sentences/phrases that mean stuff to those in the know). This way, the geeks are achieving what needs to be done, yet explaining to the clients/superiors the options and requirements to do their job better.
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Depends on the dialog box? Perhaps, you would like to save the info for a time when you can use it... sure you can cp & paste it, but y'know, choices and enabling technologies yada yada yada
I see you are sticking to your plan...
I don't flaming run Windows! Or Gnome! I don't go for the default necessarily. It was more an expression of my disgust with distros for making Gnome the default than any particular familiarity with either. I'm disgruntled that it is assumed if you run OSS, you run Gnome. I only every come across them when I'm fixing something for someone with one or the other. They are pains in the rear end.
For all the innuendo that KDE is like Windows, it is bewildering to me under that logic that most commercial projects have Gnome as their default when Windows has market share they are trying to abscond. I keep trying it to find out what everyone is raving about to only find that they are raving. Raving mad.
I'm happy with using distros that do default to KDE or other environments, but strangely they are becoming rare. All reviews and progress of upcoming features seem to focus on Gnome.
If I truly cared I would bug fix, whine etc to Gnome devs. I don't care enough but doesn't mean not I'm disgruntled with the general perception outside of OSS users that Gnome is better, simpler, more correct than KDE. I get they are both heavy.
I'm happy with WindowMaker. Would prefer E17, but can't be bothered sorting through all the issues again.
It is stupid, and now I feel stupid for delving down to the level of Gnome users. ( ==== there people/mods, that is flamebait; my original comment was mere differing opinion!)
So then I can run KDE-Windows on wine in KDE? ... sure, sure.
and it didn't help that Wilson died...
heh, I submit, I submit!
I agree with pp. I did over-generalise; thank you to all those other suggestions of how I should use(utilise?) my OS -- I may keep them in mind as I use my KDE & WM desktops in future.
I won't. Gnome is even more limiting in practice than Windows.
I apologise, I forgot the ~ at the end of that sentence.
Heh, you don't understand the trials of being married to a nymphomaniac. Sure, it sounds like fun at first....
Isn't one of the 'features' of pdf that it is for document exchange? One of the talking points was that it "couldn't be changed" by the end viewer. Bollocks of course, but there aren't very many good native-pdf word processors.
I believe they were designed to replace printouts unless a print version was actually needed, not be the printout vector themselves. The idea that end to end would look the same no matter what was used to view it. acroread, other pdf reader, or paper.
Html attacks a similar problem, but not the same problem.
ODF was to restrain the problem of data being held hostage in a proprietary format. The most recognised targets were .doc & .xls but not limited to them.
Pdf is a different problem though. An earlier version has been a public standard (OSI? That one that Microsoft gamed with those single use countries... ;)
it is an open standard, you are welcome to do so.
How does Apples keep a track of Applications? Isn't it just by dropping them into the Applications directory?
I'm not sure that Apple hasn't already done what itunes does without itunes.
gnome-terminal
And when you reply to give feed back to shows (this irks me particularly on current affairs type shows), they give you a 8mm x 5mm box to fit a response into. gah
You *are* a firm believer in redundancy aren't you?
But, but he made the Scorpion King in the 2000s...?
*Some* users of MS Office 'really' use them. In the multitude of organisations (including universities) over the past 10 - 15 years I've had personal experience with, I can think of ~10 people (note! People)who don't just use MS Office as a reviewing device or 'table' creator. Most of those truly needing MS Office is only because they have written their macros in Excel. Now had they been shown how to script in a cross-platform language, they would not be reliant on Excel. I have yet to meet anyone who needed the features that only MS Word has.
I agree I haven't had a great deal of experience with computer use outside of mining, education, manufacture, and service industries, but I'm sure that most people in the above industries could get away with more cost effective programs designed for more specialised tasks than Office. Instead, we have a status quo of shoe-horning Office to do more task less efficiently.
Wouldn't Wikipedia be a great definition of 'common wisdom'? Some may argue that common wisdom is an oxymoron... but that is another day's work.
Not paralyzed by fear, we are paralyzed by economics.
Mate, go read a developers mailing list of any of major FOSS project you so choose. Then come back and make the same arguments again as honestly as you can in light of what you read.
The vilification of supposedly stupid security mistakes put me off trying to understand good programming by reading mailing lists. No body trusts anybody. And then the way they bandy around other projects tackle similar problems shows that they are often very familiar with the other projects code too. These people are paranoid, suffer with OCD.
Then, it becomes obvious that both NSA and Microsoft. NSA wrote patches and a system for improving security under linux. Microsoft reviewed the code to uncover 235 patent infringements.
Linux truly does have the best of all worlds.
Y'realise you could replace Slashdot with Economists and the sentence would still mean what you wanted it to mean? Just sayin'
Isn't the job of a 'technologist' about applying the tech products to problems in the most effective way?
The bloke whining about your nick.
Okay, think of it more this way. Geeks are renown for being rather socially inept. They need an interface between them and the people they deliver service to, so that the geeks can yabba away in that technobable (not marketing buzzwords, lawyer bluff or political speak, but actually sentences/phrases that mean stuff to those in the know). This way, the geeks are achieving what needs to be done, yet explaining to the clients/superiors the options and requirements to do their job better.