You're right, you raise a good point..they certainly could have heard rumblings from MS prior to their own filing....but assuming that Sony is in a pissing contest with MS right now (at least, that is what I am assuming because it seems that way becuase some or most people on/. are posting that Sony is doing this in response to the release of the Elite) why would they release or develop a ps3 with an 80 GB hdd while MS is meanwhile rumored to be releasing a 120GB model? does it not make more sense to try to "out-do" the other guy? shouldn't they have filed for something like 80GB, 100GB, 120GB, 160GB.....???
"At least they are built well, and don't die after a year of use"
Remember the NES and how you'd have to blow in the cartridge, or how you had to hold the reset button down for 20 seconds and recite "Nintendo rules" out loud 15 times before the game would work?......My point is, not company makes "bullet proof" consoles that do not fail.....not ANY ONE company. True, some consoles are built better than others, and others have a better track record when it comes to reliability, nobody is exempt from hard ware failures.
thinking that Sony did this in response to Microsoft's release of the 360 elite....Look at the date of the filing....March 2, 2007. This is not a response the the release of the 360 Elite as Sony filed this on March 2nd 2007, and the elite came out when???
I want to see who will be ripping into Sony if it does well. We don't even know if it will do good or bad, but everyone is predicting that it will fail. I have faith in Sony, and I believe they can put a good product out there for consumers. All I see here on slashdot is a lot of people jumping on the "Anti-sony" bandwagon...
If polyphony digital thought that they could have put out a better game on the Xbox, I'm sure they would have at least ported over a copy of GT3 or something (unless it was due to legal/licensing issues between polyphony and sony). I dont beleive that the Xbox is capable of rendering the photo-realistic environments you see in the GT series. I mean, sure, the xbox has more muscle than the ps2, but have you compared Xbox's "answer" to GT4 (forza) to GT4? have you seen how realistic the cars and tracks/environments in GT4 look compared to forza? can good development/programming really make that much of a difference given how outgunned the PS2 is compared to the Xbox?
I do agree....I'm not saying that the XBOX cannot run a GT quality game, cuz we all know that the XBOX has more muscle than the PS2, it's just that there is no racing game of GT quality game out there on the XBOX (PGR, Forza, Sega GT ect). The other franchises that I've also stated are great games, and i do beleive that they will always be better on the playstation. i don't see God of War being ported onto Xbox, I don't see tekken series ported over to Xbox, what about the next killzone? i know there are killer apps for Xbox (Halo, fable etc) and Wii (Mario, Metroid, etc) as well, but it's the sony games that are exclusive to sony that will always make me pick the Playstation over the Xbox. I'm waiting for the PS3, that's why I haven't bought a 360 yet.
Of the list of franchise that I posted, I only car for one really, and that's Gran Turismo. dont get me wrong, the other games are awesome, but like Bufferoverflow stated, GT is a niche game for car enthusiast, and I am a car enthusiast. I have not seen another automotive game on any other console that comes close the the level of realism of GT 3 and GT 4. Forza, Sega GT, and others have not impressed me at all (beleive me, i've played a lot of car games). GT's level of realism, the driving physics, the amount of detail put into the cars, tracks, user interface, environment have no equal on any other console. The novelty of being able to put body kits on your car in Forza is appealing, but that alone does not save it from being an inferior game to GT4. Because of that, I don't believe that the Xbox is capable of producing the same results that Polyphony and Sony can produce. Call it good programming/developing on Polyphony's part, but I think the GT series will either live or die on the Playstation and the Playstation alone. The look and feel of the game just wont be the same on an Xbox. I am one of those die-hard sony fans that will go out and buy a PS3 JUST for the next iteration of GT. I however will not discount or put down the other consoles just because they are non-sony. I have nothing to say on the future of the PS3, other than I hope it does well.
PS - To bufferoverflow....
I don't know if I read your post correctly, but I beleive you called the GT series a "1 a year franchise" I don't see how it could be a "1 a year" franchise when there are only 4 iterations ( 1 and 2 for PS1 and 3 and 4 for PS2) of the game available in North America (a couple of spin-offs in other parts of the world). If I read your post incorrectly, I'm sorry.
Just my two cents.
^^^ why all the hostility dude?
I just said that some of those games won't be the same on other consoles, and I hope that the PS3 does well. Did sony do something really really bad to you or something? You don't have to play all those games or even look at a Sony at all if you want. I said it was just my opinion and wanted sony to do well.....chill dude.
IMHO......
I know it probably goes against the grain here on this discussion, but I personally hope that the PS3 is successful. There are so many great franchises on the PS2 that I don't think would be the same on any another console. Gran Turismo, Devil May cry, Onimusha (even tho there was a Xbox version), Ace Combat, MGS, Socom just to list a couple. I don't care what market analysts and joe blow say, they're all human, and humans make mistakes. What if they're all wrong with their "educated guesses", "predictions", and "assumptions"? Can they take into account how many people will buy the PS3 regardless of it's price just because they are brand loyal? Can they accurately predict the demise of the PS3 based on legalities of the hardware? If sony sorts out all of it's legal problems with Blu Ray, and manages to put a Blu Ray player in the homes across the world, will they really fail? Call me a sony fanboi or what you may (even though I own an XBOX, and have owned a gamecube, dreamcast, PS1, SNES, gameboy, gameboy advance, and atari), but I for one, would love to see the PS3 succeed.
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You're right, you raise a good point..they certainly could have heard rumblings from MS prior to their own filing....but assuming that Sony is in a pissing contest with MS right now (at least, that is what I am assuming because it seems that way becuase some or most people on /. are posting that Sony is doing this in response to the release of the Elite) why would they release or develop a ps3 with an 80 GB hdd while MS is meanwhile rumored to be releasing a 120GB model? does it not make more sense to try to "out-do" the other guy? shouldn't they have filed for something like 80GB, 100GB, 120GB, 160GB.....???
"At least they are built well, and don't die after a year of use" Remember the NES and how you'd have to blow in the cartridge, or how you had to hold the reset button down for 20 seconds and recite "Nintendo rules" out loud 15 times before the game would work?......My point is, not company makes "bullet proof" consoles that do not fail.....not ANY ONE company. True, some consoles are built better than others, and others have a better track record when it comes to reliability, nobody is exempt from hard ware failures.
Error - sorry meant to say, this is not a response to the release of the 360 elite.... here's a link to the filing: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/ret rieve.cgi?attachment_id=764216&native_or_pdf=pdf
thinking that Sony did this in response to Microsoft's release of the 360 elite....Look at the date of the filing....March 2, 2007. This is not a response the the release of the 360 Elite as Sony filed this on March 2nd 2007, and the elite came out when???
I want to see who will be ripping into Sony if it does well. We don't even know if it will do good or bad, but everyone is predicting that it will fail. I have faith in Sony, and I believe they can put a good product out there for consumers. All I see here on slashdot is a lot of people jumping on the "Anti-sony" bandwagon...
I concur......well said.
If polyphony digital thought that they could have put out a better game on the Xbox, I'm sure they would have at least ported over a copy of GT3 or something (unless it was due to legal/licensing issues between polyphony and sony). I dont beleive that the Xbox is capable of rendering the photo-realistic environments you see in the GT series. I mean, sure, the xbox has more muscle than the ps2, but have you compared Xbox's "answer" to GT4 (forza) to GT4? have you seen how realistic the cars and tracks/environments in GT4 look compared to forza? can good development/programming really make that much of a difference given how outgunned the PS2 is compared to the Xbox?
I do agree....I'm not saying that the XBOX cannot run a GT quality game, cuz we all know that the XBOX has more muscle than the PS2, it's just that there is no racing game of GT quality game out there on the XBOX (PGR, Forza, Sega GT ect). The other franchises that I've also stated are great games, and i do beleive that they will always be better on the playstation. i don't see God of War being ported onto Xbox, I don't see tekken series ported over to Xbox, what about the next killzone? i know there are killer apps for Xbox (Halo, fable etc) and Wii (Mario, Metroid, etc) as well, but it's the sony games that are exclusive to sony that will always make me pick the Playstation over the Xbox. I'm waiting for the PS3, that's why I haven't bought a 360 yet.
Of the list of franchise that I posted, I only car for one really, and that's Gran Turismo. dont get me wrong, the other games are awesome, but like Bufferoverflow stated, GT is a niche game for car enthusiast, and I am a car enthusiast. I have not seen another automotive game on any other console that comes close the the level of realism of GT 3 and GT 4. Forza, Sega GT, and others have not impressed me at all (beleive me, i've played a lot of car games). GT's level of realism, the driving physics, the amount of detail put into the cars, tracks, user interface, environment have no equal on any other console. The novelty of being able to put body kits on your car in Forza is appealing, but that alone does not save it from being an inferior game to GT4. Because of that, I don't believe that the Xbox is capable of producing the same results that Polyphony and Sony can produce. Call it good programming/developing on Polyphony's part, but I think the GT series will either live or die on the Playstation and the Playstation alone. The look and feel of the game just wont be the same on an Xbox. I am one of those die-hard sony fans that will go out and buy a PS3 JUST for the next iteration of GT. I however will not discount or put down the other consoles just because they are non-sony. I have nothing to say on the future of the PS3, other than I hope it does well. PS - To bufferoverflow.... I don't know if I read your post correctly, but I beleive you called the GT series a "1 a year franchise" I don't see how it could be a "1 a year" franchise when there are only 4 iterations ( 1 and 2 for PS1 and 3 and 4 for PS2) of the game available in North America (a couple of spin-offs in other parts of the world). If I read your post incorrectly, I'm sorry. Just my two cents.
^^^ why all the hostility dude? I just said that some of those games won't be the same on other consoles, and I hope that the PS3 does well. Did sony do something really really bad to you or something? You don't have to play all those games or even look at a Sony at all if you want. I said it was just my opinion and wanted sony to do well.....chill dude.
I agree with you. Let's wait and see. I am still hoping that it does well.
IMHO...... I know it probably goes against the grain here on this discussion, but I personally hope that the PS3 is successful. There are so many great franchises on the PS2 that I don't think would be the same on any another console. Gran Turismo, Devil May cry, Onimusha (even tho there was a Xbox version), Ace Combat, MGS, Socom just to list a couple. I don't care what market analysts and joe blow say, they're all human, and humans make mistakes. What if they're all wrong with their "educated guesses", "predictions", and "assumptions"? Can they take into account how many people will buy the PS3 regardless of it's price just because they are brand loyal? Can they accurately predict the demise of the PS3 based on legalities of the hardware? If sony sorts out all of it's legal problems with Blu Ray, and manages to put a Blu Ray player in the homes across the world, will they really fail? Call me a sony fanboi or what you may (even though I own an XBOX, and have owned a gamecube, dreamcast, PS1, SNES, gameboy, gameboy advance, and atari), but I for one, would love to see the PS3 succeed.