Session Restore can already be accomplished through extensions. As for CSS3 and some HTML5, that's nice, but you can't use them on actual web pages yet because 1) these aren't W3C Recommendations yet and 2) not all web browsers support them yet.
Supporting it also means crippling any software that wants to use APIs that later versions of the platform supports.
No.
First, he already said that the API between Windows 2000 and Windows XP is identical.
Secondly, you can test for an API at runtime, check for a possible error or null pointer, and then decide what to execute. It's that simple, and requires no crippling at all.
Oh no! It doesn't have the new shiny Cairo-powered rendering engine and the Add-Ons Manager! It sucks!
I don't care one bit when 1.1.x came out. It works, works well, and doesn't really need an Add-Ons Manager because it comes with so many things you barely need any extensions. As for SeaMonkey 2.0 dropping support for Win9x, this was not a decision by the SeaMonkey Council. It's just how it goes when you base a web browser on Gecko 1.9.
Damn whipper-snappers who always need the new toys!
Barely any resources have to be invested to keep it running. Remember, this is open source, and this is Mozilla, who has an entire framework in place to minimize OS-specific code. As for older versions, that doesn't cut it, as they are no longer up-to-date with security. For a web browser, this is critical.
Firefox 3.0 doesn't work on Win9x. 2.0 already didn't work properly on Windows 95 thanks to a weird bug caused by some JavaScript.
These few people that don't want to upgrade are not holding anyone back. Sheesh. People imagine that everything needs to stand still to work on backwards compatibility.
That's not a good comparison, as the Game Boy Advance was wildly different in capabilities from the Game Boy Color. Meanwhile the DS, DS Lite and DSi are essentially the same system.
They only give a damn about security issues that are public. Unknown ones they just sit on, as has been demonstrated several times with vulnerabilities like the Windows meta file one.
I hope you're not trying to imply that it's impossible to be safe on Windows without anti-virus. Being careful about where you browse is stupid, as any site can get hacked to spread malware.
Using common sense, like not blindly opening attachments, being behind a NAT router and/or firewall and using a web browser that isn't IE that gets updated regularly goes a long way towards being malware-free. You can go even further and implement a whitelist for programs (instead of the anti-virus blacklist, which is one of the most dumb security practices).
That third-party titles for the Wii don't sell well is a myth:
Sega's Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - 6.93 million Sega's Sonic and the Secret Rings - 2.02 million Activision's Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock - 4.10 million Activision's Guitar Hero: World Tour - 2.63 million Global Star's Carnival Games - 3.19 million LucasArts' Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga - 2.24 million LucasArts' Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures - 1.13 million LucasArts' Star Wars: The Force Unleashed - 1.21 million Midway's Game Party - 1.94 million Hudson's Deca Sports - 1.72 million Capcom's Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition - 1.66 million Capcom's Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles 1.26 million Ubisoft's Rayman Raving Rabbids - 1.5 million Ubisoft's Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 - 1.62 million Ubisoft's Rayman Raving Rabbids: TV Party - 1.28 million Ubisoft's Red Steel - 1.09 million Ubisoft's Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip - 1.03 million EA's MySims - 1.42 million EA's Rock Band - 1.28 million EA's Smarty Pants - 1.23 million Disney's High School Musical: Sing It! - 1.38 million Namco Bandai's We Ski - 1.33 million THQ's Big Beach Sports - 1.17 million Majesco's Cooking Mama: Cook Off - 1.10 million
That's a popular myth. The road map for the Firefox project has always been to create the best Windows web browser for end-users with the "right features".
The Mozilla Suite was never bloated. Some people just didn't like the way things were going, and created the Phoenix project. It caught on, because it was new and shiny.
People who wanted "just a browser" could already have it. Just choose "Browser only" at installation time. The option is still there in SeaMonkey 1.1.x.
The Mozilla Corporation is for-profit, and it already receives loads of money from Google just for giving it preferential treatment and using it on the Firefox start page.
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Making claims like yours are easy without backing it up. Look through Mozilla's Gecko 1.8 source code. This is exactly how they do it.
Session Restore can already be accomplished through extensions. As for CSS3 and some HTML5, that's nice, but you can't use them on actual web pages yet because 1) these aren't W3C Recommendations yet and 2) not all web browsers support them yet.
No.
First, he already said that the API between Windows 2000 and Windows XP is identical.
Secondly, you can test for an API at runtime, check for a possible error or null pointer, and then decide what to execute. It's that simple, and requires no crippling at all.
Oh no! It doesn't have the new shiny Cairo-powered rendering engine and the Add-Ons Manager! It sucks!
I don't care one bit when 1.1.x came out. It works, works well, and doesn't really need an Add-Ons Manager because it comes with so many things you barely need any extensions. As for SeaMonkey 2.0 dropping support for Win9x, this was not a decision by the SeaMonkey Council. It's just how it goes when you base a web browser on Gecko 1.9.
Damn whipper-snappers who always need the new toys!
Or maybe they stayed with Windows 2000 because it was pretty identical to Windows XP API-wise, does not need activation, and Just Works.
Barely any resources have to be invested to keep it running. Remember, this is open source, and this is Mozilla, who has an entire framework in place to minimize OS-specific code. As for older versions, that doesn't cut it, as they are no longer up-to-date with security. For a web browser, this is critical.
Firefox 3.0 doesn't work on Win9x. 2.0 already didn't work properly on Windows 95 thanks to a weird bug caused by some JavaScript.
These few people that don't want to upgrade are not holding anyone back. Sheesh. People imagine that everything needs to stand still to work on backwards compatibility.
Yes, because the developers adding features are the same ones that maintain OS-specific source code! (/sarcasm)
Too bad not upgrading is not really an option with a web browser. You have to keep up with security updates.
I'll tell you why: because Windows doesn't change the API of a major component every 5 years or so.
That's not a good comparison, as the Game Boy Advance was wildly different in capabilities from the Game Boy Color. Meanwhile the DS, DS Lite and DSi are essentially the same system.
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They only give a damn about security issues that are public. Unknown ones they just sit on, as has been demonstrated several times with vulnerabilities like the Windows meta file one.
I hope you're not trying to imply that it's impossible to be safe on Windows without anti-virus. Being careful about where you browse is stupid, as any site can get hacked to spread malware.
Using common sense, like not blindly opening attachments, being behind a NAT router and/or firewall and using a web browser that isn't IE that gets updated regularly goes a long way towards being malware-free. You can go even further and implement a whitelist for programs (instead of the anti-virus blacklist, which is one of the most dumb security practices).
Security is a process, not a product.
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Oh, right. My bad. Damn smilies.
Looks like your grammar was infected as well.
Extensions are often cross-browser too. But they still all depend on Gecko in the Mozilla world.
I think you mean Netscape 8. That's the one that embeds both Trident and Gecko.
I am in Europe, and it's not 1 April here yet either.
That third-party titles for the Wii don't sell well is a myth:
Sega's Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - 6.93 million
Sega's Sonic and the Secret Rings - 2.02 million
Activision's Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock - 4.10 million
Activision's Guitar Hero: World Tour - 2.63 million
Global Star's Carnival Games - 3.19 million
LucasArts' Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga - 2.24 million
LucasArts' Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures - 1.13 million
LucasArts' Star Wars: The Force Unleashed - 1.21 million
Midway's Game Party - 1.94 million
Hudson's Deca Sports - 1.72 million
Capcom's Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition - 1.66 million
Capcom's Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles 1.26 million
Ubisoft's Rayman Raving Rabbids - 1.5 million
Ubisoft's Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 - 1.62 million
Ubisoft's Rayman Raving Rabbids: TV Party - 1.28 million
Ubisoft's Red Steel - 1.09 million
Ubisoft's Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip - 1.03 million
EA's MySims - 1.42 million
EA's Rock Band - 1.28 million
EA's Smarty Pants - 1.23 million
Disney's High School Musical: Sing It! - 1.38 million
Namco Bandai's We Ski - 1.33 million
THQ's Big Beach Sports - 1.17 million
Majesco's Cooking Mama: Cook Off - 1.10 million
Even more numbers:
http://platformers.net/2009/02/npd-january-2009-life-to-date-numbers/
Actually, most infections today occur thanks to social engineering. The biggest liability is still what's between the keyboard and the chair.
That's a popular myth. The road map for the Firefox project has always been to create the best Windows web browser for end-users with the "right features".
The Mozilla Suite was never bloated. Some people just didn't like the way things were going, and created the Phoenix project. It caught on, because it was new and shiny.
People who wanted "just a browser" could already have it. Just choose "Browser only" at installation time. The option is still there in SeaMonkey 1.1.x.
The Mozilla Corporation is for-profit, and it already receives loads of money from Google just for giving it preferential treatment and using it on the Firefox start page.