Domain: 148apps.biz
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Comments · 6
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Re:How many developers?
There are 204,784 active developers right now, so that's $34,182 average per developer. Since most developers are probably earning next to nothing, some must be earning serious amounts of money from the App store.
You can also divide by the total number of apps, 1,039,518 apps so that makes an average income of $6,733 per app.. Again a serious amount of money.
It would be interesting to know what happens to those averages if you remove, say, the top 100,000 apps and the top 10,000 developers from the list, to give a better idea of what it is like for most developers.
You can get the up to date figures here (may be changed by the time you read it)
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Re:??? This makes no sense...
I tend to agree that this is a rather poor study, in that it's based on one source of data from developers who may be exhibiting bias by their very act of contributing data to the survey.
That said, the iOS App Store still seems to have more apps than the Android App Market. The most recent numbers I can find seem to indicate that the iOS App Store was around 650K yesterday while the Android Market was at 450K in late February, so the iOS App Store probably still commands a 150-200K lead.
Even so, those numbers are pretty meaningless. I mean, what does it really matter? Once you reach a critical point, you have enough that it's more about the quality of the apps and developers that you attract to your platform, rather than the quantity of apps. Both of those platforms passed that critical point years ago.
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Re:A fiasco in every way but one important one.
Wow, talk about fanboyism right?
-Carrier lock. Apple has a much harder hand on walled gardens, what with not even allowing "competing" apps very often, and we all know how belowed AT&T is. Plus, Nexus One/S anyone? My S had no branding whatsoever, no carrier lock, I have built-in tethering and wifi tethering, I can choose any app that I could possibly like without any restriction.
-Android is at approximately 360,000 apps (Androlib), while iOS is at roughly 390,000 (148Apps). If you think an 8% difference is enough to make Android the most evil thing ever, just go have fun with Jobs then. I like how 8% is "vast", though, especially considering this is just from the official Android Market.
-Less polished user interface? Matter of taste I guess. I find the Android interface very attractive, and fragmentation is a term invented by deniers. It was called "flexibility" before that. Flexibility to choose how your OS looks and feels, flexibility to pick your applications, launcher, theme, flexibility to do things that the developers might not initially have thought about, flexibility to make your device your device. The fact you can easily develop apps for Android without having to jump through hoops is a bonus, as somebody who knows how to code but has no interest in publishing apps.
-I don't exactly know why you're trying to make Apple look like the underdog here, because they clearly are not. Furthermore, I've never, ever seen anybody considering both rooting good and jailbreaking bad. Either they see both as acceptable/good, or they see both as bad. You're just cherry-picking negative reactions to jailbreaking and positive reactions to rooting to make your case, which is fallacious.So I'll let you have fun with your conspiracy theories and go back to customizing my Nexus S. Ah, the possibilities!
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Re:Ouch
50,000 applications vs 250,000 applications doesn't really matter. In both cases, it's enough to cover basically everything you'll need, and many applications are redundant copies of each other.
Oops! Your logic slip is showing! So, what you are saying is, the Walls of the Garden are so far away that the average user cannot see them, right? And you know what? You're right!
Android has multiple music players for it, the iPhone has just the one Apple makes.
I guess you didn't see the iOS4 Keynote, nor the iPhone 4 Keynote, where Jobs specifically mentioned Pandora (and I believe even had the CEO of onstage to DEMO). It was one of the apps he SPECIFICALLY mentioned in his introduction of iOS4 multitasking.
Android has applications with political and/or sexual content, the iPhone has practically none.
Sorry, you have blown it with your first statement about "cover(ing) basically everything you'll need." Strawman argument. Next!
Something about temporary safety over essential liberty and deserving neither comes to mind...
Which is why I pointed out (and you conveniently DIDN'T copy into your reply) that ""Liberty" on smartphones is NOT the same as "Liberty" in government. And, just so I don't get some sort of snippy retort, TRUE "Liberty" would mean that I could hunt you down and kill you for not agreeing with me. Do you really think THAT's "1337"? ". But instead, you ignored that, and the example I pointed out about a BANK SCAM APP being approved on Android Marketplace, and came back with the lame-ass "argument" that:
What part of "you can do whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on anyone else's right to do the same" don't you understand?
So, which part of a BANK SCAM APP do you think is not "infring(ing) on anyone else's right(s)"?
So, let's recap:
First, you ADMIT that the "Walled Garden" is sufficiently large that it contains "basically everything you'll need." Next, you IGNORE that Jobs DEMOed PANDORA running on iOS4. Then finally, you attempt to besmirch the hallowed memory of one of our country's Founding Fathers (Ben Franklin) by invoking his words (which I OBVIOUSLY had in mind when I clearly delineated "Liberty in Government" from "Liberty for App Stores"). THEN, you actually IGNORED an OBVIOUSLY PERFECT EXAMPLE (Bank Scam App) of just exactly WHY a "Curated" App Store is actually BETTER for the USER (name me ONE identity-theft app on the Apple App Store). Wasn't there just a /. article on "Fifth of Android Apps Expose Private Data"?
In fact, one app was SO egregious that Google felt it necessary to REACH INTO USERS' PHONES and DELETE IT!
But, that's ok, because they can apparently PUT IT (or anything they want to!) INTO YOUR PHONE as well (without your knowledge or consent. Just like the deletion).
Yeah, Android's "install any app" thing is working out JUST fine for the USER, and is SO MUCH BETTER than Apple's "Curated" approach. Riiiiight.
BTW, with an average of over SIX HUNDRED NEW apps being APPROVED EVERY SINGLE DAY (given the average 95% approval rate), just exactly WHAT is your problem? -
Re:Ouch
50,000 applications vs 250,000 applications doesn't really matter. In both cases, it's enough to cover basically everything you'll need, and many applications are redundant copies of each other.
Oops! Your logic slip is showing! So, what you are saying is, the Walls of the Garden are so far away that the average user cannot see them, right? And you know what? You're right!
Android has multiple music players for it, the iPhone has just the one Apple makes.
I guess you didn't see the iOS4 Keynote, nor the iPhone 4 Keynote, where Jobs specifically mentioned Pandora (and I believe even had the CEO of onstage to DEMO). It was one of the apps he SPECIFICALLY mentioned in his introduction of iOS4 multitasking.
Android has applications with political and/or sexual content, the iPhone has practically none.
Sorry, you have blown it with your first statement about "cover(ing) basically everything you'll need." Strawman argument. Next!
Something about temporary safety over essential liberty and deserving neither comes to mind...
Which is why I pointed out (and you conveniently DIDN'T copy into your reply) that ""Liberty" on smartphones is NOT the same as "Liberty" in government. And, just so I don't get some sort of snippy retort, TRUE "Liberty" would mean that I could hunt you down and kill you for not agreeing with me. Do you really think THAT's "1337"? ". But instead, you ignored that, and the example I pointed out about a BANK SCAM APP being approved on Android Marketplace, and came back with the lame-ass "argument" that:
What part of "you can do whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on anyone else's right to do the same" don't you understand?
So, which part of a BANK SCAM APP do you think is not "infring(ing) on anyone else's right(s)"?
So, let's recap:
First, you ADMIT that the "Walled Garden" is sufficiently large that it contains "basically everything you'll need." Next, you IGNORE that Jobs DEMOed PANDORA running on iOS4. Then finally, you attempt to besmirch the hallowed memory of one of our country's Founding Fathers (Ben Franklin) by invoking his words (which I OBVIOUSLY had in mind when I clearly delineated "Liberty in Government" from "Liberty for App Stores"). THEN, you actually IGNORED an OBVIOUSLY PERFECT EXAMPLE (Bank Scam App) of just exactly WHY a "Curated" App Store is actually BETTER for the USER (name me ONE identity-theft app on the Apple App Store). Wasn't there just a /. article on "Fifth of Android Apps Expose Private Data"?
In fact, one app was SO egregious that Google felt it necessary to REACH INTO USERS' PHONES and DELETE IT!
But, that's ok, because they can apparently PUT IT (or anything they want to!) INTO YOUR PHONE as well (without your knowledge or consent. Just like the deletion).
Yeah, Android's "install any app" thing is working out JUST fine for the USER, and is SO MUCH BETTER than Apple's "Curated" approach. Riiiiight.
BTW, with an average of over SIX HUNDRED NEW apps being APPROVED EVERY SINGLE DAY (given the average 95% approval rate), just exactly WHAT is your problem? -
Re:Stick that up your Flash, Adobe!
Steve doesn't want you to play flash games for free when you should be spending money at the app store.
Except for the 6888 games Steve hosts and serves for free.