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Re:That's pretty damning for the CIA and Bush admi
Of course you have some evidence that Saddam sent his weapons to Syria? And by evidence I don't mean the MSM, or the Bush Whitehouse. If I gave you several bad cheques in a row, would take another one? They lie. They lie all the time.
There have been several reports that WMD was moved to Syria, including from a top Iraqi air force general, from a top Israeli general and a Syrian journalist:
The Iraqi and Israeli generals are quoted here:
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/
The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.
"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."
Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."
There's more there.
The Syrian journalist's report:
http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php
A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq WMD located in three Syrian sites
06 January, 2004
AFP
Nizar Nayuf (Nayyouf-Nayyuf), a Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe and is known for bravely challenging the Syrian regime, said in a letter Monday, January 5, to Dutch newspaper âoeDe Telegraaf,â that he knows the three sites where Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) are kept. The storage places are:
-1- Tunnels dug under the town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria. These tunnels are an integral part of an underground factory, built by the North Koreans, for producing Syrian Scud missiles. Iraqi chemical weapons and long-range missiles are stored in these tunnels.
-2- The village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian air force camp. Vital parts of Iraq's WMD are stored there.
-3-. The city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of Homs city.
Nayouf writes that the transfer of Iraqi WMD to Syria was organized by the commanders of Saddam Hussein's Special Republican Guard, including General Shalish, with the help of Assif Shoakat , Bashar Assad's cousin. Shoakat is the CEO of Bhaha, an import/export company owned by the Assad family.
And, again, there's more there.
On the other hand, stories like this came out, in Apr. 2005, about how it was unlikely that WMD was shipped to Syria after a report about the issue came out:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/25/AR2005042501554.html
Report Finds No Evidence Syria Hid Iraqi Arms
By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 26, 2005; Page A01U.S. investigators hunting for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq have found no evidence that such material was moved to Syria for safekeeping before the war, according to a final report of the investigation released yesterday.
Given the way things work in the middle east, though, and given how clueless Western intelligence can be about the area, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility too quickly.
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Re:Define success?
This must be from the same school of accuracy that brought us "Saddam has WMDs".
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Re:How the heck ...Well... first Saddam shipped them to Syria
It's plausible some of Saddams WMDs went to Syria. Syria and Iraq were both Baathist party regimes. Syria has its own WMD program, and a well deserved reputation for brutality. After all, a large part of the Iraqi Air Force was "shipped" to Iran during the 1991 Gulf War to kick the Iraqi Army out of Kuwait.During Operation Desert Storm the Iraqi Air Force did not seek to challenge Coalition air forces, and nearly half the Iraqi Air Force fled to Iran to escape destruction. Why the IQAF fled to Iran is not precisely known, and the answer may never be fully known. In any case, Iraqi fighters and support aircraft fled for the border -- more than 120 left.
I doubt that any of Saddams WMDs went to North Korea given North Korea's existing and extensive stocks of chemical (and possibly biological) weapons. Maybe some of the know-how went there though. (Iraq's nuclear program may have been within 6-24 months from developing a nuclear bomb in 1991.) -
Re:How the heck ...Well... first Saddam shipped them to Syria
It's plausible some of Saddams WMDs went to Syria. Syria and Iraq were both Baathist party regimes. Syria has its own WMD program, and a well deserved reputation for brutality. After all, a large part of the Iraqi Air Force was "shipped" to Iran during the 1991 Gulf War to kick the Iraqi Army out of Kuwait.During Operation Desert Storm the Iraqi Air Force did not seek to challenge Coalition air forces, and nearly half the Iraqi Air Force fled to Iran to escape destruction. Why the IQAF fled to Iran is not precisely known, and the answer may never be fully known. In any case, Iraqi fighters and support aircraft fled for the border -- more than 120 left.
I doubt that any of Saddams WMDs went to North Korea given North Korea's existing and extensive stocks of chemical (and possibly biological) weapons. Maybe some of the know-how went there though. (Iraq's nuclear program may have been within 6-24 months from developing a nuclear bomb in 1991.) -
Re:WMD moved to Syria?You have to be able to know what is in the container.
Yea, I know. That is the trouble. They could even be empty. I thought it was hogwash until I saw how Bush strongarmed the Syrian President into removing his forces from Lebanon. He un-necessarily pushed him, even the sleeping press noticed. I'm hoping someone out there has cool pictures or something. Oh, yea the pictures were shown on the defense's web site back in 2003. Not sure when they aged off. I'm sure someone has them.
Doing a google search I found a couple of interesting web pages. Take a gander - here and here . At least something to think about. A bit closer.
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Re:WMD moved to Syria?You have to be able to know what is in the container.
Yea, I know. That is the trouble. They could even be empty. I thought it was hogwash until I saw how Bush strongarmed the Syrian President into removing his forces from Lebanon. He un-necessarily pushed him, even the sleeping press noticed. I'm hoping someone out there has cool pictures or something. Oh, yea the pictures were shown on the defense's web site back in 2003. Not sure when they aged off. I'm sure someone has them.
Doing a google search I found a couple of interesting web pages. Take a gander - here and here . At least something to think about. A bit closer.
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Re:uh..
We "bash" Bush because he is doing a bad job as a president.
An opinion of yours, one that I do not share.
Unfortunately, a large portion of the populous is still ignorant of the facts, so he got reelected
The facts? Ok. About WMD in Iraq, see here. For a LONG time the US knew that Saddam was hiding weapons. Before Bush even took office, Kerry was talking about WMD and Saddam.
Instead of trying to tout this as Bush lying, you SHOULD take a look at the evidence, which says that THERE WERE WMD IN IRAQ before we got there (He had them, and used them on the Kurds.), ask yourself, where the hell did all Saddam's WMD go? Maybe Syria?