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Re:No Pink Floyd
Berkeley has some of the greatest music stores in the nation... I'll take Ameoba over iTunes any day.
Parent is referring to Amoeba Music which is one of the BEST music stores on the planet. (No affiliation). I've been to the one in Hollywood and it is spectacular. The prices, especially those on Japanese imports, are extremely reasonable ($20-$30 as opposed to $46 ).
I've been to Kim's in the NYC village and J&R and a million mom-and-pop stores, but I can tell you for sure if Amoeba was down the block from me I would be broke. Thankfully several thousand miles separate us. -
Re:Nice...
I will try to answer these questions with a minimum of pretentiousness.
That's the average over a time period. Usually I will only buy one or maybe two and then go on a stock-up spree where I get, for example, 3 or 4 Funkadelic albums, or more Keith Jarrett records, or trying to complete some singles from a specific band. I do almost no shopping at music-only chain stores (Tower, Sam Goody) or online (with the exception of import CD singles). I shop almost exclusively at a local record store and are more than happy to buy a CD or two on a whim during these stock-ups simply because it is being featured. Usually the clerks will have a small write-up "Linkin Park meets Winston Marsalis!" that seems to get my attention. Also, a lot of these CDs come from places that are either used-cd or deep-discount warehouses. We're talking average cost of a CD $6 or below. The other day I got Songs in the Key of X, Beautiful Stranger, White Town's Women in Technology, and about 5-6 other CDs for $1 each. I would say safely the price of each CD I buy is, on average, under $10.
The only "chain" music store I ever support is the Virgin Megastore on Times Square because their music selection is ridiculous. Not as expansive as Amoeba in LA, for example, or stocked with obscure titles like Kim's Video in NYC, but it does the trick.
Some other parent asked about which labels I support, and I don't really support specific labels. If I see something interesting, the artist being on Nonesuch or Astralwerks or Def Jux might get me off the fence into the "buy" side but I figure as I'm not supporting ClearChannel-approved entertainers, I'm ok.
As far as the parent, I honestly expanded by knowledge of music and my musical vocabulary about ten-fold once I hit college and downloaded gigabytes upon gigabytes of different music. I was introduced to George Benson, the Greyboy Allstars, MC Paul Barman, the Rolling Stones (i.e. not their classic-rock staples), etc. To this day, I still have friends approach me about good music they've heard, etc. Previously I've recommended sites like PopMatters, Pitchfork, and AMG for a good way to browse around and find out new artists.
Cheers. -
Re:As it has been it will be
The thing about this is... it's totally optional. See movies at friends houses. Listen to independant artists and radio stations (my local one is Pirate Cat Radio - pluggity). Don't buy DRM CDs. Hell, buy used CDs and rob them of any profit. Play free video games (RTCW:ET, hit Home of the Underdog and grab System Shock 2 - hit the torrent and be a Good Person).
It's the new punk - If you pick up on it quick, you can claim you were there. -
What about vinylI wonder if tapes or vinyl are counted...
I am a music geek and all the music I buy is pretty much vinyl. claiming "fair use" I download stuff to my ipod so I can listen to it in the car. I only buy CD's when it is stuff that I can't get on vinyl and can't find it to download. In the past year I've bought about 15 records and 4 cd's.
Not a single CD was an RIAA disc, and maybe 2 records were.
Prior to having a cd-burner/broadband, I would buy about 20 cd's a year, and about 1/3 third of those were purchased used.Almost all independent labels worth their salt put their stuff out on vinyl. My favorites are Fat Wreck Chords, Jade Tree, and Springman.
You can also find mainstream stuff on vinyl. Recently I've picked up System of a Down, Radiohead and Sublime.
Best Buy and Wal-Mart of course, don't carry vinyl and they sell their cd's at pretty close to cost. The make it up by selling you CD players, and batteries to run your CD player. I buy most of my music at independent retailers like Amoeba Music or online. Most Independent labels sell full length records and cd's for $8-12.
Call me a thief(I have 50 gigs of mp3s), but I feel like I have supported artists who deserve it. I will never pay $18 or even $15 for a cd. -
Re:Sounds fine to me
A bit off-topic, but Amoeba Music (Bay Area, Hollywood) has similar kiosks.
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Re:Record stores should still work"Back in the 60's it wasn't uncommon for people to hang out at the record store, buy records, lay around on beanbags checking out the latest stuff, and walk out with a bag of records at the end of the day. It was also quite common for bands (big and small) to play at record stores. Why can't this happen more these days?"
Actually, Amoeba Music is still like this. I go there every so often and usually have to stop myself from spending $100+ each time.
Many people just go to hang out there (I spent over 4 hours there 2 weeks ago) to check out their wide selection of music -- Rock, Reggae, Goth/Industrial, Celtic, House/Trance/Ambient, Spanish, Russian, Folk, Country, Bluegrass, etc.
They even sell VHS/LaserDiscs/DVDs and rare posters. As for free live shows, they have those too! They're the best. I don't even bother shopping at Walmart, Tower, Best Buy, etc. anymore... Not that I ever really did to start.
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Re:Record stores should still work"Back in the 60's it wasn't uncommon for people to hang out at the record store, buy records, lay around on beanbags checking out the latest stuff, and walk out with a bag of records at the end of the day. It was also quite common for bands (big and small) to play at record stores. Why can't this happen more these days?"
Actually, Amoeba Music is still like this. I go there every so often and usually have to stop myself from spending $100+ each time.
Many people just go to hang out there (I spent over 4 hours there 2 weeks ago) to check out their wide selection of music -- Rock, Reggae, Goth/Industrial, Celtic, House/Trance/Ambient, Spanish, Russian, Folk, Country, Bluegrass, etc.
They even sell VHS/LaserDiscs/DVDs and rare posters. As for free live shows, they have those too! They're the best. I don't even bother shopping at Walmart, Tower, Best Buy, etc. anymore... Not that I ever really did to start.
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Re:Record stores should still work"Back in the 60's it wasn't uncommon for people to hang out at the record store, buy records, lay around on beanbags checking out the latest stuff, and walk out with a bag of records at the end of the day. It was also quite common for bands (big and small) to play at record stores. Why can't this happen more these days?"
Actually, Amoeba Music is still like this. I go there every so often and usually have to stop myself from spending $100+ each time.
Many people just go to hang out there (I spent over 4 hours there 2 weeks ago) to check out their wide selection of music -- Rock, Reggae, Goth/Industrial, Celtic, House/Trance/Ambient, Spanish, Russian, Folk, Country, Bluegrass, etc.
They even sell VHS/LaserDiscs/DVDs and rare posters. As for free live shows, they have those too! They're the best. I don't even bother shopping at Walmart, Tower, Best Buy, etc. anymore... Not that I ever really did to start.
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Re:Record stores should still work"Back in the 60's it wasn't uncommon for people to hang out at the record store, buy records, lay around on beanbags checking out the latest stuff, and walk out with a bag of records at the end of the day. It was also quite common for bands (big and small) to play at record stores. Why can't this happen more these days?"
Actually, Amoeba Music is still like this. I go there every so often and usually have to stop myself from spending $100+ each time.
Many people just go to hang out there (I spent over 4 hours there 2 weeks ago) to check out their wide selection of music -- Rock, Reggae, Goth/Industrial, Celtic, House/Trance/Ambient, Spanish, Russian, Folk, Country, Bluegrass, etc.
They even sell VHS/LaserDiscs/DVDs and rare posters. As for free live shows, they have those too! They're the best. I don't even bother shopping at Walmart, Tower, Best Buy, etc. anymore... Not that I ever really did to start.
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Re:Record stores should still work"Back in the 60's it wasn't uncommon for people to hang out at the record store, buy records, lay around on beanbags checking out the latest stuff, and walk out with a bag of records at the end of the day. It was also quite common for bands (big and small) to play at record stores. Why can't this happen more these days?"
Actually, Amoeba Music is still like this. I go there every so often and usually have to stop myself from spending $100+ each time.
Many people just go to hang out there (I spent over 4 hours there 2 weeks ago) to check out their wide selection of music -- Rock, Reggae, Goth/Industrial, Celtic, House/Trance/Ambient, Spanish, Russian, Folk, Country, Bluegrass, etc.
They even sell VHS/LaserDiscs/DVDs and rare posters. As for free live shows, they have those too! They're the best. I don't even bother shopping at Walmart, Tower, Best Buy, etc. anymore... Not that I ever really did to start.
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Re:Record stores should still work"Back in the 60's it wasn't uncommon for people to hang out at the record store, buy records, lay around on beanbags checking out the latest stuff, and walk out with a bag of records at the end of the day. It was also quite common for bands (big and small) to play at record stores. Why can't this happen more these days?"
Actually, Amoeba Music is still like this. I go there every so often and usually have to stop myself from spending $100+ each time.
Many people just go to hang out there (I spent over 4 hours there 2 weeks ago) to check out their wide selection of music -- Rock, Reggae, Goth/Industrial, Celtic, House/Trance/Ambient, Spanish, Russian, Folk, Country, Bluegrass, etc.
They even sell VHS/LaserDiscs/DVDs and rare posters. As for free live shows, they have those too! They're the best. I don't even bother shopping at Walmart, Tower, Best Buy, etc. anymore... Not that I ever really did to start.
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Not all stores are getting killed
Here in San Francisco, Amoeba Records is surviving quite well. With three store locations, they're actually turning a profit while the Best Buy in San Francisco is having problems with their CD sales. In fact, I just came back from shopping the Haight and grabbed a couple of CDs myself at Amoeba. Everytime I walk down the Haight I always stop by Amoeba and grab something new from their used section. (Recently, it's been the Drum & Bass section.)
These reviews pretty much sum up Amoeba records.
Maybe Best Buy can learn some of the tricks that Amoeba does, like maybe lower prices, a good used section, oh! Or maybe unique listening styles rather than top 40 crap! -
excellent mailorder options
Some of the best places to buy music online are:
DE:
Unisex
UK:
Penny Black Music
US:
Darla
Indiepages
Parasol
Revolver/Midhaven
Tonevendor
Twee Kitten (they also have dvds and give discounts on larger orders)
For some more useful links (bands, labels etc) check here or here.
Also, the best records shops are Amoeba and Sonic Boom. -
Re:Is this a bad thing?
All they want is the lowest price, which the large retailers are going to provide.
Lowest price? Usually not. Every time I go into a big box music store, I leave wondering why I even entered the store in the first place.
In my experience, the major chains are too expensive ($17 for a domestic easy-to-find CD? Who the heck pays these prices?), rarely have anything I'm looking for (but they have 100 copies of Britany Spears and Eminem), the staff is clueless once you get out of the top-100 albums, you can't buy used CDs (Why pay $17 when I can get the same thing for $8 used).
Maybe I'm a bit spoiled with our local music stores: Amoeba, and Rasputin (Which some consider a big evil retailer, but their selection still crushes the Big Box music store), among others. Are these a rarity? I've been to similar stores in Seattle, LA, Denver, etc...
Who wants to trek down to ask Record Story Guy about that obscure album when you can sit in front of your computer and make a post on some web site to the world?
The advantage of the record store is that you can get that information in a few minutes. If you make a post on some website, you'll often end up waiting for days... -
Re:A few thoughts
"ipod? ogg? bah! what you really want is a good turntable!"
Speaking of good turntables, for those who are not wanna be DJs and just want to listen to music, try the
Linn LP12
or the more afordable but still enjoyable Rega Planar line
To complete the gift for your geek make sure you include a small gift certificate to your local used record store
Also set aside an entire weekend of free time for him/her because that's what a music lover will need when faced with the staggering vinyl selection at Amoeba. Best of all, Vinyl can often cost a few pennies to a few dollers, far cheaper than CDs. And guess what, NO DRM!!! and NO extra money going to the RIAA (Assuming you are buying USED)
What geek wouldn't want to flip off the recording industry while enjoying a geeky vintage medium like Vinyl.
Vinyl does not sound better then CD, and many prfer the warm analog sound of vinyl to the harsh processed tinny sound of CD, but don't try to argue which is better, they are just different. Everyone has their favorites.