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  1. Re:"Hoisted on their own profits" by SL+Baur · · Score: 2, Insightful · on High Earning Spammers Face Tougher Sentences
    Erroneus' original question was (which I think is a thought-provoking question):

    So REALLY. What makes other crimes worse? and neither did he write anything about punishment nor did you answer his question.

    See my earlier post in this thread for my thoughts on a comparison between armed robbery and spamming.

    Your question is:

    Do you honestly think spamming and murder are morally equal? I wouldn't, unless as a result of the consequences of the spam, someone died. I think with high probability unfortunate engineers in Japanese ISPs (and elsewhere) have died from overwork combatting spam. They call it Karoshi in Japan http://www.apmforum.com/columns/boye51.htm and the Prime Minister around the turn of the century, OBUCHI Keizo, is a recent extremely high-profile victim.

    He wasn't offering moral comparisons though, only the amount of intent involved. I would imagine more effort, planning and callousness go into spamming than nearly any premeditated murder.

    Think outside the box for a moment. Murder is ending the life of an individual, in effect stealing time from their life away from them and their loved ones. Spamming is stealing time from the lives of millions of individuals and the overall costs to society as a whole may well be greater.

    And the more I think about it, the more I want to hear your answer. What makes you think that murder is morally worse than spamming? Just asking.
  2. Re:If it's not too late already... by senatorpjt · · Score: 1 · on Demystifying Salary Information

    Maybe you could forward it to the Chinese equivalent of salary.com.

    http://www.salary.com
    "Wow, I'm way overpaid... tech jobs only pay an average $1091/year!"

  3. Karoshi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Stress Costs U.S. $300 Billion a Year
    > What I find interesting is that if this were about another country...

    ...we'd say the exact same thing. In fact, we DID say the exact same thing back in the 80's/90's when Japan was considered the over-work, over-stress capital of the world. Look up "karoshi" - it's the Japanese word for "death from overwork".

    Much as you might like to believe otherwise, this is not a case of everyone ragging on the US just because it's the US. This is a case of everyone ragging on overwork because overwork is bad, regardless of who's doing it.

    Sometimes when people say you're doing something bad, they're right. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can stop shooting yourself in the foot.

  4. Re:Hmm, yet oddly ... by quax · · Score: 1 · on SCO Threatens to Press IP Claims on Linux -$99/cpu

    Actually that only holds for less qualified Chinese. The trend is already reversing (none Chinese source)

    Alan's radical prognosis was very much a forward looking statement. China is a future power to reckon with I just hope that they will find their own path towards democratic structures without further blood shed. I also hope that the IP pendelum will swing back before it causes too much harm to the people inside and outside the US.

  5. Re:Clarification by 4of12 · · Score: 2 · on Black Ops of TCP/IP: Paketto Keiretsu 1.0 Release

    Thanks for the clarification.

    I've seen "keiretsu" previously.

    I've sometimes confused keiretsu with another Japanese word, "karoshi", which might just as well apply:)

  6. So when will we see a surge of Karoshi? by Lars+T. · · Score: 2 · on Fewer Employees + Same Work = Higher Productivity

    Karoshi: Death from Overwork