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My HTML-fu failed. Here are those links again...
Pardon me while I repost those links. . .
Theodora Lau's Handbook of Chinese Horoscopes. (A good book for Eastern Astrology).
Susan Miller's website is a fairly robust example of the Western model.
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How do you get there from here. . ?
Hm.
I forget sometimes where I came from myself. --The world really is pretty locked down. I started out the son of an engineer and a big fan of science. Did the model rocket, and build your own radio thing as a kid. At a party many years later, somebody brought out a Chinese divination system based on an old game, and proceeded to do readings for people. It was unlike anything I'd ever chanced across before; all I'd seen of the esoteric was the newspaper horoscope section which I'd always found to be entirely silly; a clear example of vague information being used to trick people into seeing more than was there. This system, however, crossed some kind of line. It was starkly accurate to the point where each person was quite shaken by the accuracy and depth at which it worked. I came away from that rather stunned.
Of course, I knew it was possible to manipulate things like cards and tiles and such, and so I decided to investigate further. It wasn't an immediate process, over the next several years, I met at random people who were similarly tuned to this kind of stuff, and I'd grill them. --One of the first people I met was a girl who was good at palm reading; who at one party was reading palms. After reading one guy, she turned to her boyfriend, white in the face and said, "That guy had NO life-line. I didn't want to tell him." The next night that guy, in his 20's, died in his sleep from heart failure. --I walked through dozens of episodes like that, both happy and sad, but never really had any direct experiences.
I also started reading. Carlos Castaneda began that, and from there, the other important books showed up on my reading list as necessary. The interesting thing with Castaneda is that one slowly comes across the notion that intent shapes experiences in a very practical way. --Which is really pretty obvious. "I intend to experience a bowl of Cheerios. I go and prepare one and thus my intention is realized." The neat part is that you learn that it works without the need for a discernible linear physical approach. --And that was when I started meeting teachers who could do some of the *really* intense stuff. Those who I call, "Powerful People". --My last girlfriend was one of these, and she has no interest in the esoteric world at all, but she is able to shape reality in the most uncanny of ways. She has experiences which are TOTALLY off the map which she doesn't understand. By the time I met her, I'd accumulated an encyclopedic knowledge of this kind of material and was able to explain and help her through many of her experiences. She's the kind of person who finds herself jumping into a car and driving off willy-nilly because she feels a strong urge and then finds herself an hour later standing at the center of a fresh crop circle.
My own level of awareness has increased a great deal over the years. I know and feel stuff I shouldn't; it seems that having enough iron in your diet is an important component, meditation helps a lot, but that for the most part, one's genetic make-up appears to play a large role. I've seen and done some pretty weird stuff, but some of the people I've met experience things in a far greater capacity than others by default. But in terms of sculpting experiences and knowing why the world is as it is. . , anybody can do that.
Simple steps to take. .
.Chinese and Western astrology are considered sort of entry points, because they offer easy evidence that 'something is up'. I like Theadora Lau's book on Chinese astrology. It was one of those early, "You have GOT to be kidding me!" works; I'd recommend her work; it's cheap and easy enough to find. Also, Suzanne Miller's Astrology website here, http://www.astrologyzone.com/ is a good representative of the Western model. Carlos Castaneda's books, despite their flaws, are also a fun read, so even if you get nothing out of them, (though I don't see how that is at all possible), it won't be a waste of your time. (Those books are wher
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Re:Won't happen. Here's why. . .A little superstistious aren't we. How do people like you get modded up. Go back to reading the astrology section of your newspaper, aligning your crystals, and avoiding ladders.
Newspaper astrology? No thanks. That's pointless. The real thing is actually useful. Of course, you wouldn't know this if you don't explore it first. --The practice of the true skeptic is to examine first and render a decision afterwards. --And if you had looked properly and honestly then you wouldn't be able to dismiss things so easily. This stuff is entirely testable, but it's the kind of testing which is best done for oneself. There's an amazing world out there, far bigger than many realize, and it's open to anybody who bothers to put their boots on and step outside. One of the better sites is this one. --Extremely comprehensive and free. --Though, I find Asian astrology to be often more robust in certain ways.
Interestingly, most who start off with a cynical view are actually incapable of exploring openly. There's a weird knee-jerk auto-response programmed into many people which makes them react with a gut-felt loathing and embarrassment which keeps them from learning how the world really works; from finding their own power. Thus it's a huge challenge to be a real skeptic; most just pretend and use the label to justify allowing their programmed fears to control them. It's easier that way, but self-defeating. It takes work to break out of the bonds, which is why they're called bonds.
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Astrology offers a great deal.It's actually quite easy to go through life without ever stepping outside one's safety margins.
The simple fact that so many here consider astrology to be a form of religion is evidence of just how little informed people are on the subject.
Don't look at newspaper horoscopes. They really are nonsense.
If you want to know whether there is anything to it or not, there are a number of excellent sources worth examining, but it takes a little effort. Most will never, ever bother to look, because they believe, right down to the core of their beings, that they already know the truth of the matter. --And they 'know' this without ever having properly tested their beliefs. I didn't want to be yet another of the countless hypocritical sceptics out there, and so I gave it some effort. I discovered that I'd been blind and ignorant for many years. This site" runs a very detailed, free astrology page. --That's worth exploring and taking the ten or fifteen minutes to track for a few months. Anybody who says they don't have time for that is just making excuses.
Another is a book by Theodora Lau. It's called, "The Handbook of Chinese Astrology". I've seen more than one hard-core sceptic stop to seriously re-think things with that one. It's VERY specific. Dig around for that at your local book store or do the Amazon thing.
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Mercury Retrograde. . .I am normally one of those conspiracy guys, but not with regard to this.
I am also an astrology guy. --Which I realize anybody who is in the tech field or sciences tends to put zero stock in, which is fair enough, (though, almost always people do this without first having tried it out, or if they have, only in as much as they looked briefly and only at the nonsense stuff in order to say that they have.) But whatever the case. . .
Mercury just went retrograde at the end of January, and will remain so until February 19th. Mercury is an indicator of all things related to communication and moving parts, etc., and when it retrogrades, everything tends to stop working properly. Don't ink deals, don't buy new equipment, don't agree to anything because there's always some piece of vital data you're not aware of and when it comes to light later on, you will wish you had waited a couple of weeks.
I've seen, several times, computer systems (my own and those of other people) which even though they had been working reliably for years, blow many unrelated components all within a matter of days or hours during a retrograde period. (And always during mission critical tasks). When you are trying to make information or systems run smoothly, that's when the universe will put up a wall of mud, telling you to slow down and take on a different style of awareness and living for that period; it's good to stop and put your brain into low gear during these times; that's how best to use the 'flavour' of energy available. --And if you don't, the harder you push, the more stuff will blow up in your face. So it can seem in a high tech world which never wants to stop that it's a, "When it rains, it pours" kind of deal.
--And in the same way that I doubt the NSA was trying to sabotage my personal computer, (and printer. And scanner. And digital camera. And bank card. And car. Ugh. What a shitty time that was!), I doubt that there was any intent to deliberately knock out undersea communications cables.
I have my own theories for how and why the universe works in this manner, but I won't get into them here, as I somehow doubt this post will survive the knee-jerk modding I imagine it will be subject to. If it does, however, stay above the zero mark, interested people might want to check out Susan Miller's astrology site to learn more. (It's free and she puts a lot of energy into it.)
Remember, knee-jerking is not scientific. Real skeptics study something with an open mind, listening to the arguments of both sides and then doing their own evaluation and research before submitting their comments. I have met maybe ten people in my life who call themselves skeptics who function in this manner.
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RandiWell, Randi may be a showman and out to sell books, but his science is still good.
No. The example used was a clever test. Good science is something else entirely. Do some digging. The man is about as critically objective as any New Age buffoon. He just has superior PR.
You say "Babies and bathwater and all that", as if to say that throwing out the all the predictions of astrology is a bad idea because it throws out the good predictions as well as the bad.
Actually, that's not exactly what I meant. --While you make a good point about not being able to tell in advance which predictions are good or bad, I was not talking about predictions, (and that astrology is all about predictions is another huge misnomer in my opinion.), but rather discarding the concept of so-called 'magic', (areas of reality not yet understood or recognized by orthodox science), simply because there are so many charlatans about is foolish.
It just takes a little work. --Watch the patterns. When one system or writer proves to have a poor return on accurate 'predictions' drop it/him/her. Indeed, most will prove to be worthless. The single largest mistake, I think, is in believing that Astrology is about predicting to people what will happen to them in the future. That's not it at all. Rather it's about forecasting 'weather' patterns in the forces which will influence their lives.
Sound the same? Think of it this way. . .
A weather forecaster telling you that, "You will get wet on Wednesday," is obviously being presumptuous. (What good is that kind of report to people who won't go outside on Wednesday? Or how useful is that kind of prediction for people who wash regularly?) Unfortunately, this is the way most 'astrologers' present their work. On the other hand, a weather forecaster can tell you that "It will rain on Wednesday." --And that's better. But it still isn't entirely responsible because even an expert meteorologist doesn't know for sure. Nobody lives in the future, and the future is variable. It's stupid, both for meteorologists and astrologers to make such predictions.
Now what a weather forecaster can say with real authority is, "These patterns of high and low pressure exist in these areas, and they are moving in these directions. In the past, these patterns have led to precipitation."
Now THAT is responsible reporting.
And what you do with that information, wear a rain coat or not, is up to you. Choice is still very much a vital factor. (Another huge misconception is that Astrology precludes choice.)
Interestingly, I have found that the patterns of influence examined in Astrology are in fact far less fickle than those observed in weather patterns. Weather patterns are determined by very quickly changing chaotic systems, whereas Astrologers look at planetary motion, which while also chaotic, are so on a much slower scale. Through mathematics, a good astrologer can tell you years in advance what sort of forces are going to be influencing the world on a given day.
If you are at all interested in looking at this stuff in any real depth, I would recommend the work of two women who, in my opinion, are not fools or charlatans.
Susan Miller for western astrology.
And Theodora Lau, for Asian astrology, which works on the higher, year-by-year cycle. Yes, you need to pick up a book to read her work, but it's foolish to think that the mode of information distribution automatically voids one's research. (Trust Randi to suggest such faulty logic.) What mode of mass-communication doesn't cost money to maintain?
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Cute. Now try. . .to find something which isn't a complete joke.
I can't STAND horseshit astrology. Astrology is a powerful gateway to higher awareness which is bogged down and virtually impossible to find thanks to the infernal fog of bullshit created by this kind of crap.
Susan Miller does some reasonably good work. Look into Asian astrology, as well. Theodora Lau is also pretty sharp. --And don't be just another one of those damned twerps who condemns without even bothering to properly examine the question. "I don't need to because I already know it's bunk."
Cowards. --Just scared people will laugh at you for not going along with the popular concensus of your group. Puh-lease. Grow a spine and do some of your own investigation.
Anybody who doesn't realize that humans are linked to the rest of reality is a damned fool. If unexplained, paradoxical forces can exist at the quantum level, which they clearly do, then what makes people think that unseen forces can't also express themselves at the macro level?
Jeez. Our universe is just one massive, fractal-like expression. Think of it this way; if you are living as one part of that expression, then you should, logically, be able to learn about yourself by examining other parts of that same expression. Just because they don't appear linked in an obvious way only suggests that your means of observation are limited.
What arrogance. And from supposedly learned people, no less!
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