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Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [ intellectually as well as physically .]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Linux has already failed on the desktop. Entire desktop GUIs have been created from scratch and achieved marketplace acceptance, and superior usability, in half the time it has taken Gnome and KDE to cobble together their present festival of mediocrity. Even the filthiest, hairiest basement dweller must now admit that as long as the for-profit world outpaces the "Open Sores" development model, the state of free software can only fall ever farther behind the mainstream, to say nothing of the cutting edge.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

At the intersection of computing and art is a world inhabited by some very attractive, intelligent, and personable young men and women. I know plenty of artists, designers, and other creative personalities with a special aptitude for stereotypically left-brained endeavors ranging from Objective-C development and Bluetooth administration to audio engineering and film editing. Though the individuals in these particular photos are men, there are more than enough beautiful women with an inclination for computer science to disprove the stereotype that all geeks are male.

Granted, the types of people who typically look for love on online dating services are mostly men, and somewhat unattractive men at that. I am of the opinion, however, that there is hope in this world for people of every stripe.

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Tongue in cheek or not, the point still stands: Studies show that artists, and the artistically inclined, tend to use Macs. Windows and Linux are for unadventurous sorts.

Apple's customers are like no others--a rich blend of the most sociologically elite with those seeking elegant, simple computing... Unlike users of Intel/Windows computers, a significant portion of Apple's users are active , exploratory , avant-garde and early adopters . The activities they enjoy are unique in the way that they more often incorporate rich media such as video and music as well as more active prosumer behavior than many more passive Windows [and Linux] users.

-- MetaFacts, Inc.

With above-average household income and education levels, the Mac population [is] very attractive [intellectually as well as physically.]

-- Nielsen/NetRatings (as quoted by C|NET)

Ultimately it comes down to taste. It comes down to trying to expose yourself to the best things that humans have done and then try to bring those things in to what you're doing. I mean Picasso had a saying he said good artists copy great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas ehm and I think part of what made the Macintosh great was that the people working on it were musicians and poets and artists and zoologists and historians who also happened to be the best computer scientists in the world.

The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste, and what that means is - I don't mean that in a small way I mean that in a big way. In the sense that they they don't think of original ideas and they don't bring much culture into their product ehm and you say why is that important - well you know proportionally spaced fonts come from type setting and beautiful books, that's where one gets the idea - if it weren't for the Mac they would never have that in their products and ehm so I guess I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success - I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third rate products.

Ultimately it comes down to taste. It comes down to trying to expose yourself to the best things that humans have done and then try to bring those things in to what you're doing. I mean Picasso had a saying he said good artists copy great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas ehm and I think part of what made the Macintosh great was that the people working on it were musicians and poets and artists and zoologists and historians who also happened to be the best computer scientists in the world.

The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste, and what that means is - I don't mean that in a small way I mean that in a big way. In the sense that they they don't think of original ideas and they don't bring much culture into their product ehm and you say why is that important - well you know proportionally spaced fonts come from type setting and beautiful books, that's where one gets the idea - if it weren't for the Mac they would never have that in their products and ehm so I guess I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success - I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third rate products.

Ultimately it comes down to taste. It comes down to trying to expose yourself to the best things that humans have done and then try to bring those things in to what you're doing. I mean Picasso had a saying he said good artists copy great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas ehm and I think part of what made the Macintosh great was that the people working on it were musicians and poets and artists and zoologists and historians who also happened to be the best computer scientists in the world.

The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste, and what that means is - I don't mean that in a small way I mean that in a big way. In the sense that they they don't think of original ideas and they don't bring much culture into their product ehm and you say why is that important - well you know proportionally spaced fonts come from type setting and beautiful books, that's where one gets the idea - if it weren't for the Mac they would never have that in their products and ehm so I guess I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success - I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third rate products.

Ultimately it comes down to taste. It comes down to trying to expose yourself to the best things that humans have done and then try to bring those things in to what you're doing. I mean Picasso had a saying he said good artists copy great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas ehm and I think part of what made the Macintosh great was that the people working on it were musicians and poets and artists and zoologists and historians who also happened to be the best computer scientists in the world.

The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste, and what that means is - I don't mean that in a small way I mean that in a big way. In the sense that they they don't think of original ideas and they don't bring much culture into their product ehm and you say why is that important - well you know proportionally spaced fonts come from type setting and beautiful books, that's where one gets the idea - if it weren't for the Mac they would never have that in their products and ehm so I guess I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success - I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third rate products.

Ultimately it comes down to taste. It comes down to trying to expose yourself to the best things that humans have done and then try to bring those things in to what you're doing. I mean Picasso had a saying he said good artists copy great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas ehm and I think part of what made the Macintosh great was that the people working on it were musicians and poets and artists and zoologists and historians who also happened to be the best computer scientists in the world.

The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste, and what that means is - I don't mean that in a small way I mean that in a big way. In the sense that they they don't think of original ideas and they don't bring much culture into their product ehm and you say why is that important - well you know proportionally spaced fonts come from type setting and beautiful books, that's where one gets the idea - if it weren't for the Mac they would never have that in their products and ehm so I guess I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success - I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third rate products.

Weird... I think I only partly "got it" Must be something wrong with me as I actually find some of these photos (or people in them or the products) strangely attractive.

I will admit that the girl who sliced her arms up (presumably) with razor blades might have gone too far. And the guy with the Newton logo tattooed on his arm, well, he probably went too far in a different sort of way.

And maybe I need to take my head out of the gutter or something but damn! The asian girl with the Powerbook is hot:

http://dogcow.atspace.com/473a51.html

I find something attractive about the girl with the "X" dog tag too:

http://dogcow.atspace.com/IMG_0730.html

But what do I know? I must admit that I have never been particularly attracted to those things that popular culture would have us believe to be attractive (or maybe "pulp culture" as Thomas Dolby put it.)

I actually do own a Powerbook. I don't consider myself socially elite. (Or any kind of elite really, maybe 1337 68k asm c0der back in the day elite. That part of me certainly hasn't gone away. I just design embedded computer hardware these days. And I have my own colorful fractal artwork for the desktop background on said Powerbook and switched the shell background to transparent blue and occasionally prototype DSP code in PERL and express my questionable sense of humor with silly messages hidden on the silkscreen under chip packages on prototype hardware. Is that cool? ;)

Weird... I think I only partly "got it" Must be something wrong with me as I actually find some of these photos (or people in them or the products) strangely attractive.

I will admit that the girl who sliced her arms up (presumably) with razor blades might have gone too far. And the guy with the Newton logo tattooed on his arm, well, he probably went too far in a different sort of way.

And maybe I need to take my head out of the gutter or something but damn! The asian girl with the Powerbook is hot:

http://dogcow.atspace.com/473a51.html

I find something attractive about the girl with the "X" dog tag too:

http://dogcow.atspace.com/IMG_0730.html

But what do I know? I must admit that I have never been particularly attracted to those things that popular culture would have us believe to be attractive (or maybe "pulp culture" as Thomas Dolby put it.)

I actually do own a Powerbook. I don't consider myself socially elite. (Or any kind of elite really, maybe 1337 68k asm c0der back in the day elite. That part of me certainly hasn't gone away. I just design embedded computer hardware these days. And I have my own colorful fractal artwork for the desktop background on said Powerbook and switched the shell background to transparent blue and occasionally prototype DSP code in PERL and express my questionable sense of humor with silly messages hidden on the silkscreen under chip packages on prototype hardware. Is that cool? ;)

Well, here's the problem. The Mac desktop, and in fact the entire Apple experience, is intuitive for a certain kind of person. Artists, fashion mavens, leftists, and other creative personalities can sit down with a menu bar spanning the width of the screen and comprehend its sensitive, tasteful aesthetic. It's a rare instinct, this appreciation for beauty and truth; accountants and other such pencil-pushers haven't a prayer.

In summary, unattractive squares like you should stick to Linux and Windows. Fitts' Law is for different thinkers.

Well, here's the problem. The Mac desktop, and in fact the entire Apple experience, is intuitive for a certain kind of person. Artists, fashion mavens, leftists, and other creative personalities can sit down with a menu bar spanning the width of the screen and comprehend its sensitive, tasteful aesthetic. It's a rare instinct, this appreciation for beauty and truth; accountants and other such pencil-pushers haven't a prayer.

In summary, unattractive squares like you should stick to Linux and Windows. Fitts' Law is for different thinkers.

Well, here's the problem. The Mac desktop, and in fact the entire Apple experience, is intuitive for a certain kind of person. Artists, fashion mavens, leftists, and other creative personalities can sit down with a menu bar spanning the width of the screen and comprehend its sensitive, tasteful aesthetic. It's a rare instinct, this appreciation for beauty and truth; accountants and other such pencil-pushers haven't a prayer.

In summary, unattractive squares like you should stick to Linux and Windows. Fitts' Law is for different thinkers.