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Re:Why Damore is wrong
Damore is arguing against the position that 100% of gender differences are due to discrimination. All that is required is to show some evidence of gender preferences, and you have an alternative explanation that has to be taken seriously. Ironically, the it is you and the gender warriors who look at different outcomes and claim that they are evidence of bias. And that is mistaking correlation for causation. Jim Edwards should apply his own logic to his own position.
Logic? If as feminists and parts of society believe that gender differences are due to discrimination, we need to understand the reason why there are almost no male veterinarians in training any more. https://www.avma.org/News/JAVM... Less than 25 percent male now, and still dropping.
Oddly enough, in this strange world where women can do no wrong ever, even this drop is being blamed on men. "Pre-emptive flight" http://blog.smu.edu/research/2... is where sexist men - apparently almost all men - see that there are women at a school, so they don't go to that school.
With as much certainty as I can muster up, most women are simply not interested in STEM.
What should be interesting is after all of the efforts to make STEM attractive enough to achieve the slight female majority which is apparently desperately needed fail, what happens then? Will we finally realize that we will have to aptitude test, then force those women that have potential into STEM careers? It is difficult to imagine pre-emptive firing of men to achieve the goal.
Because for most people, STEM is simply boring. http://www2.cipd.co.uk/pm/peop... And that includes young men. But less young men than young women find it boring.
And that was the feedback that I got from years of efforts to get young ladies involved in STEM in about as friendly an environment as you can imagine for women. They didn't find it interesting. But they went for law or business for those who were interested in a career, or women's studies for those who had an axe to grind. Law and business have some horrid sexual discrimination and practices that border on sexual assault, yet young ladies eagerly sign up for those majors. Hard to imagine the stereotypically shy introvert guys in STEM are that much of a problem for them.
So yeah - boring. It simply doesn't interest most of the young ladies. Just as it doesn't interest a lot of young men, even if more young men do find it interesting. For myself, the work is exciting, and has made for a good career, so I'm not at all certain how excitement can be generated for a large number of people who are more interested in externalities than the more internalized joys of science and technology.
But that does not fit within some people's agendas. Perhaps if this guy had phrased it as simply boring, he might not have been fired. Then again....
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Re:Of course!
If your depression is indeed low thyroid, that's one of the very easiest things to fix, and that in turn fixes loads of other stuff. And if you can persuade 'em to prescribe natural desiccated thyroid instead of or in addition to synth, that's usually better (not always. But I definitely do better on NDT.)
Yeah, the spay/neuter craze has done dogs no good. (In most of Europe it's considered mutilation, and in some countries is even illegal, but that's changing -- not for the better.) Cancer rates skyrocket (four times higher in some breeds). Other health issues that increase significantly: temperament issues, especially fearfulness and inappropriate aggression. Joint disorders, notably ACL and hip dysplasia. Immune issues including fatal blood disorders.
A good overview:
http://speakingforspot.com/blo...another, with numerous citations:
http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs...a few studies I happen to have bookmarked:
http://journals.plos.org/ploso...
http://avmajournals.avma.org/d...
a vet's rant:
http://www.angryvet.com/neuter...Unwanted puppies? There's an ancient invention that adequately covers that problem. They use it in Europe. It's called a leash.
Be well. I'd miss you.
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Re:Stupid question
Here are the current guidelines from the American Veterinary Medical Association regarding euthanasia of animals. For pets, the first choice is an intravenous injection of a barbiturate or similar compound, such as pentobarbital. https://www.avma.org/kb/polici...
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Re:This can happen only in Korea
Children are even smarter than cats, they can quickly learn a cat can defend itself.
And no, you don't "declaw a cat to keep it from damaging furniture" - even according to veterinary association of the place in question it "should be considered only after attempts have been made to prevent the cat from using its claws destructively" - but those ethical guidelines are apparently simply ignored in 95% of cases; strong majority of the amputations takes place in the first half a year of life of the cat - which means no serious effort at teaching it proper manners with humans took place; it's still a relatively stupid kitten, weak, and which just plays.
(again all this ignoring how declawing-induced behavioral problems result in ~2x higher ratio of owners abandoning their cat)
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Re:Ever been on a farm?
My family raises cattle on a farm in Iowa. Speaking from our experience, I'll tell you that putting a pound of meat on a steer takes in the neighborhood of ten pounds of feed -- and much more than that, if you're feeding them exclusively grasses (including hay).
...Either way you're talking about raising the prices of basic foodstuffs. You won't inconvenience the rich: the rich will still be able to afford filet mignon and Kobe beef. After all, they're rich.
If your family raises cattle, then you should know that farmers have been culling cattle herds like crazy for the last ~5 years or so. Beef prices have gone through the floor because the recession seriously dampened demand and caused a glut in the market. At the same time, corn prices have been zooming up because of the ethanol push. This isn't just limited to cattle, as the pork and chicken industries have been cutting production too.
Just so no one things I'm pulling this out of my ass, here's the first relevant google result for "culling cattle herds"
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-01-27/u-s-cattle-herd-falls-to-1958-low-as-losses-climb-survey-says.htmlHere's another article, this time from April 2009, talking about 2008 herd numbers for the various industries:
http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/apr09/090415a.aspMoving to grass fed beef would resolve the market price problem (grass fed commands a premium) and the cost problem (grass is free, more land is cheap, corn feed is not).
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Re:McKinstry was a kook"Note that chocolate is poisonous to many animals, including dogs and cats." I wish. I don't presume to be an expert, but if you are going to be making claims like this then it is fair to give a counterpoint from an authoritative source (American Veterinary Medical Association):
http://www.avma.org/careforanimals/animatedjourneys/livingwithpets/poisoninfo.asp#Misc3 -
Re:Please stop calling it the death tax...
The fact is, for a college educated professional (the very definition of middle class) - [150K a year is] an average salary with a decades or so experience.
In certain industries, perhaps. But look at the salary stats for say, teachers, or veterinarians (two established middle-class professions which require college educations). Way less than 150k.
Seriously, if you think 150k is an average middle class salary, you're leading an insular existence. In fact, if you look a the historical stats on income from the US Census Bureau, you'll see that you're coming in at the lower limit of the the top 5 percent. Now, unless you're going to argue that only people in your income bracket are truely solidly middle class, and so redefine the problem away, you have to admit that you are, at the very least, upper middle class. -
Perhaps not the first GE pets!
Cats are being genetically engineered to make them hypo-allergenic. I would love to see a follow-up on the above article, it's been a year and I want my non-sniffly cats soon please!
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Re:Ferrets don't always make good pets..."But according to the State of California ferrets can establish ferral populations [ca.gov]..."
Try not to put too much faith in the CA gov't. They get their info from the CDFG and it has been proven that they fabricated reports and flat out lied in court.
"The Center for Exotic Pest Research at UC Davis said if ferret ownership was to become legal, there is a "high risk" of feral populations."
As I stated in my previous post, Ferrets are ALREADY legal in 48 of the 50 States. Also as a point of fact, UC Davis receives grants from the California Department of Fish and Game. As well as rather large donations from groups like the Auduban Society and The Sierra Club who, sadly, rely on information from the CDFG and it's paid croonies. Show me a report from an independent third party research group that states that there are feral populations of ferrets ANYWHERE in the USA. Also, it was "HUNTING" ferrets that were introduced into New Zealand. These animals were already used to hunting and were not fixed (spayed/neutured).
"Groups like Ferets Anonymous say that Ferets cannot survive in the wild and grow in population. This does not make sense."
The problem that you are running into here is that you are not doing your research. If I am wrong then please show me and I will change/modify my opinions. The reason that Domestic ferrets don't survive real well in the wild, is that, every animal that is raised on ferret farms, are spayed/ neutered at about 8 weeks of age. This makes it impossible for them to breed obviously. So we go to independent breeders. If their mating animals escaped it could be possible to breed but again the survival of the animal is dependent on humans. Kits (baby ferrets) fixate on their food shortly after they are weened. It is well documented that many ferrets have starved to death because their owners decided to change the food. The animals were normally found not 3 feet from a food source.
Also, spaying is a MEDICAL NECESSITY. Unlike other mammals that go into heat for short periods of time (i.e. dogs, cats, parrots, cows, canaries, whatever...) the female ferret stays in heat until she is bred. This unending heat cycle leads to a life-threatening conditoin called Aplastic Anemia. If not recognized and corrected in time this condition leads to death. The only ways for the female to come out of heat is by breeding, being given a hormone shot, being fixed, or DYING. In males neutering is more of a bahvioral necessity and a scent relief issue. This is why ferrets, who are not specifically used for breeding, are never kept whole. The odds of an Hob (Unfixed Male) and a Jill (Unfixed female) surviving long enough in the wild to find each other, and find food that they will eat, and be in season at the same time, and not becoming something else's bedtime snack (i.e. Owls, wolves, coyotes, snakes, feral cats, domestic cats...etc...) are extremely high AGAINST the ferret. Not Magic, just fact.
There are also reports about how conservationists attempted to save the North American Black Footed Ferret (see previous post for link) from extinction by setting up a breeding program and capturing the remaining animals. 18 animals were recovered from the wild. During the process the Black Footed Ferrets "domesticated" to the breeders. As a result, when the first test groups that were released into the wild, either starved to death because they did not know how to hunt anymore (remember these were generations of ferrets removed from the original stock) or they were set upon by predators that they didn't know how to escape from. Further groups, where strict breeding conditions, such as the Californa Condor Program, were enforced, were able to re-integrate into the wild and prosper. Also, like I said, anytime you add Humans to the environmental mix, you get disasters.
Who would I trust? No one. Especially not the groups you mentioned. Their political agendas extend far past protection of the environment. One report that I haven't seen is on the environmental impact of feral populations of cats and dogs.
Here's another little tidbit for you. There is not one report- ANYWHERE
One more tidbit and hopefully you will respond to this post. There are Zero reports of rabies being transmitted from a ferret to Human, and only a small handfull fo rabies in ferrets have EVER been documented. Domestic Ferrets are one of the most difficult animals to infect with Rabies. The Center for Disease Control and Prevention has documented fewer than 20 ferrets, infected with rabies since 1954. In 6 years, 1989-1994, there have only been 4 cases of ferrets with rabies. Compared with dogs and cats, whose rabies incidence numbers were 928 and 1425 respectively. Raccoons came in highest at 21,447 cases, and skunks came in next with 10,733. Only 15 rabid were reported, but that still outnumbers rabid ferrets almost 4 to 1!! One reason is that they are far less likely to come into contact with rabies bearing animals. Studies indicate ferrets ( and their family members) have an incredible natural immunity to rabies even when bitten by a rabid animal. You have a greater opportunity of contracting rabies from either a cat or a dog.
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