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  1. Re:WTH? by houghi · · Score: 1 · on PayPal Unveils Mobile Payment System

    No, I won't. In Belgium they will come to the table with a mobile terminal. I enter the card with the chip in the terminal (so no swiping) and enter my pin code. The waiter waits for the OK signal and gives me my receipt and the transaction is done.

    He does not even touches the card, so he can't remember the details to abuse it. I have seen terminals without the strip reading ability.

    Images of some terminals

  2. Re:Well i live in Europe (Belgium)... by dglaude · · Score: 1 · on The Beast of Brussels

    I am Belgian too and not happy with data retention (like ISP connection) and many thing in my country.

    My next IdCard will be RSA smart card for signature and authentication.
    But I already have a memory card for social security. I did explicitly request my national id not to be printed on my old plastic id card, but it is printed on my social security card anyway.
    Last time I came to the bank, they asked me my id card to get my new id card number (because I changed address). They told me 70% of the id card number stored in bank database are wrong (say outdated because of peaple renewing car or changing address). They are require to update those database or pay penalty... it never made the news, but it is hapening right now.

    At previous election, I voted using magnetic card. My vote was counted by computer I don't trust. I know the code of the election is ugly and I can not accept official expert explanations on a strange bit inversion during election electronic counting.

    I know the Big Brother is Belgian and is legally watching me.

    Some belgian party want every transaction above 500 EURO to be done electronicaly, but hopefully they are not successfull during election.

    Whatever, all the belgian bank grouped together to form Banksys wich is having a de-factomonopoly on ATM transaction, and they introduced the an electronic card to pay very small amongt of money. So they know how I spend my money.

    All supermarket have fidelity card and they know how you spend your money, if you take baby, dog or kat food. If you hope to have babys because you take pregnancy test or if you cheat on you wife because you take condom.

    All of your medical expense are also track by a card (social security card, see above) and don't try to go to the pharmacy without your card, they will let you die rather than to give you the medecin that was prescribed to you.

    If you are belgian, do what you want, but I choosed to fight back and join association that care about human right in the computer world: AEL. Strangly enough, they care about free software, but that's only a positive side effect.

    I don't know if the European beast is in Brussels or not, but I know Belgium don't need Europe help to track belgian. And if there is a beast in Brussels, it might well be the one tracking Belgian... If the beast does not exist, all the data are already available for starting the project.

  3. Re:Well i live in Europe (Belgium)... by De+Lemming · · Score: 1 · on The Beast of Brussels
    I agree (at least partially) with most of your post. But I want to react on one of your statements:
    Banksys/proton (a private company, being the only one that has the full picture of money flowing nation-wide)

    Thanks to Banksys I can withdraw money from any ATM in Belgium, no mather what bank hosts the ATM or which bank issued my bank card. I also can use my bank card to pay in all supermarkets and almost all other shops. I don't think much Belgians should be eager to give up this comfort.

    And you mention it's a private company. I suppose you also would complain if it was implemented by the government, as in that case the government has all information on these transactions.

    And Proton, an electronic purse for small purchases, is actually not connected to a single person. It's the electronic equivalent to a wallet with small change, and anybody can use such a card (you don't need a PIN code to use it).
  4. Re:Old news by dna_(c)(tm)(r) · · Score: 1 · on Cashless Society

    The company behind proton claims to operate in 16 european and 23 non-european countries, proton exists since 1995. On the belgian market, Banksys (dutch/french lang. only) exploits the system

  5. Already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Where is My Digital Cash?
    In a few countries in Europe, digital cash already exists in the form of a smart card that can be "loaded" with money. The chip is integrated on your debit card. It is used to pay small amounts of money.


    The card can be charged in an ATM machine, or by a small terminal connected to your PC. You simply log in to a webpage and you can transfer money from your checking account into the chip with your PIN code.

    Payments on the Internet with this card are also possible.


    The system is called 'Proton' in Belgium and 'ChipKnip' in the Netherlands. Some other European countries are using it as well. Check out www.protonworld.com and www.banksys.be

  6. wouldnt happen here... by Tompie · · Score: 1, Insightful · on Gift Card Hacking

    I still wonder why the US still has such old-fasioned electronic payment system. e.g. Visa is problably one of the most insecure payment methods but is probably still the most popular in the US.
    Here in Belgium (Europe) banksys [www.banksys.be] creates very secure payment-cards (on cooperation with the guys who invented rijndael). But with the upcoming Euro, Proton is becoming more and more popular. On that card, one can store up to 4000BEF (+- 100 Euro's) pre-paid, and it is very secure.
    Why aren't doesn't the US adopt those systems?