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I hope that the RIAA doesn't read ./ and that i'm not shooting several fellow alumni and students in the foot with this, but from what I've seen the RIAA has stayed far away from Berklee College of Music even moreso than Harvard. Juilliard too.

I hear about lawsuits and letters against students at many other area schools (BU, BC, etc), but Berklee has always been kept out of it. My guess? The RIAA doesn't want to cause more "real enemies" from their artists. Each year, Berklee kicks out one or two groups that are signed to a major label, and many more of us are signed to major publishing deals. I don't think the RIAA wants to get the alumni upset that they are attacking fellow alumni and students.

For those that don't know, Berklee alumni are a serious part of the industry. Between the back end business parts, arrangers, composers, engineers and the front artists that are all Berklee alums, I don't think they want to walk on eggshells with Berklee.

And seriously, the average Berklee student has 100x larger music collection than any Harvard student I've met. We also buy more CDs than most people, but many of us download a good bit too.

If you were the RIAA would you piss off big alumni like John Mayer, Jan Hammer, Susan Tedeschi, Paula Cole, and Quincy Jones?

Yes, Harvard has several big lawyers and leaders as alumni, but pissing on Berklee is pissing on themselves- so they don't do it. Google "Berklee RIAA lawsuit" and try the same with any other school (harvard or BU) and you don't find any suits against Berklee students.

I assume you didnt listen to any of these remixes. If you have listened to them and you are still convinced that remixing only serves the purpose of a DJ in a club then you have a pretty contricted view of music and probably have never worked in a prefessional recording environment.

Remixing serves many other purposes for conceptual visions as well as the artisitic expression and potential of what any particular musical piece might contain. It allows an artist to explore possibilities that might not have been conceived during initial creation. If you are a musician who has worked in a professional recording environment then you know that even working with a producer can render results far removed from the original concept of how the original material was written. This can also lead to creative ideas on how to expand upon a theme or even create a totally different piece. As a musician I would hope that you would understand this.. because inevitably one is influenced by the music to which one is exposed. This exposure helps in shaping artistic expression. Everything one creates is a direct result from the influence of other material. Period.

Focusing on a strictly electronically-centric style of music, I find it shameful to hear anyone that proclaims themselves a musician to cast any sort of shadow over this particular genre of music. Remixing and turntablism ARE a modern form of music. Period. I am sorry if you do not want to accept that as a fact. I am also sorry for the parents and grandparents of the 1940s and 1950s that did not consider Rock a form of music, or the generation of the early 20th century that did not consider Jazz a form of music.

This form of creativity has expanded so far into American culture that Berklee School of Music even teaches courses on it. I assume you consider Berklee a reputable school.

A modern musician pushes the boundaries of creativity into other areas where others might not ever dwell, instead of confining ones self to any particular constriction or limitation. This is what what seperates musicians from players.

How about Berklee? It's got the right number of E's.

I go to Berklee College of Music, and all the computers here are macs. We have almost no internet connection problems from the numerous student/lab computers, but we do have quite a bit of problems witht the actuall network infrastructure. There is no MSIE that is running by default on any of the computers (not even the students, because we are all required to get a mac...). We just went through a major update on all of our earlier computers that ran OS9 and installed firefox and the like.

• Babson College Wellesley
• Bentley College Waltham
• Berklee College of Music Boston
• Boston Architectural Center Boston
• Boston College Newton
• Boston Conservatory, The Boston
• Boston University Boston
• Brandeis University Waltham
• Bunker Hill Community College Boston
• Cambridge College Cambridge
• Emerson College Boston
• Emmanuel College Boston
• Fisher College Boston
• Harvard University Cambridge
• Hellenic College Brookline
• Lesley College Cambridge
• MIT Cambridge
• Massachusetts College of Art Boston
• Massachusetts College of Pharmacy
  and Allied Health Sciences Boston
• Mount Ida College Newton
• New England Conservatory of Music Boston
• New England School of Law Boston
• Northeastern University Boston
• Pine Manor College Chestnut Hill
• Radcliffe College Cambridge
• Simmons College Boston
• Suffolk University Boston
• Tufts University Medford
• Wellesley College Wellesley
• Wentworth Institute of Technology Boston
• Wheelock College Boston

At least so far, berkleeshares.com doesn't distribute student works. It's a repository of small self contained music lessons excerpted from Berklee College of Music's courses, text books, and videos, made available for free.

They also have an online school where you can take courses taught by their professors.

This improper usage really bugs me, too. For everyone who hasn't yet figured it out, (including the Slashdot "editorial" staff)

The proper spelling of Berkeley [berkeley.edu] is B-E-R-K-E-L-E-Y, and the proper usage is "University of California, Berkeley," being that Berkeley is the University of California; the other UC schools (UCLA, UCSC, et al) are merely extensions of UC Berkeley, which was founded in 1868.

So no, it's not spelled "Berkly," "Berkely," "Berkley," or any combination of the three, and it most certainly has no connection to the Berklee College of Music [berklee.edu].

I'm amazed that any self-respecting geek can misspell "Berkeley", given the advances made there. Where the hell do they think Berkelium and Californium were discovered? If it weren't for Berkeley, which runs LANL [lanl.gov] and LBNL [lbl.gov], the DOD would be up shit creek, and GWB wouldn't have any of those "nuke-u-ler" weapons he likes to talk so much about. For the love of god, the guy who won a Nobel prize [princeton.edu] for inventing the frickin LASER [geocities.com] is a professor there.

Finally, without Berkeley, there'd be no BSD; it's the Berkeley Software Distribution. It's in the name of the operating system. At the very least, the person submitting the article (and the Slashdot "editors") should be able to figure out the proper spelling that way.

As lore would have it, the original USL suit against BSD and Berkely University broke up on the rocks for a similar reason.

As lore would have it, the proper spelling of Berkeley is B-E-R-K-E-L-E-Y, and the proper usage is "University of California, Berkeley," being that Berkeley is the University of California; the other UC schools (UCLA, UCSC, et al) are merely extensions of UC Berkeley, which was founded in 1868.

So no, it's not spelled "Berkly," Berkely," Berkley," or any combination of the three, and it most certainly has no connection to the Berklee College of Music.

I'm amazed that any self-respecting geek can misspell "Berkeley", given the advances made there. Where the hell do you think Berkelium and Californium were discovered? If it weren't for Berkeley, which runs LANL and LBNL, the DOD would be up shit creek, and GWB wouldn't have any of those "nuke-u-ler" weapons he likes to talk so much about. For the love of god, the guy who won a Nobel prize for inventing the frickin LASER is a professor there.

Without Berkeley, there'd be no BSD; it's the Berkeley Software Distribution. It's in the name of the operating system. If you can't even properly spell the name of the operating system to which you're referring, why even bother to make any comment at all?

> Science and Engineering can require alot more work than the standard liberal arts major

My ass.

Go write me a symphony, then come back and tell me how easy it is, retard.

K.
Berklee, Composition, '95

> Science and Engineering can require alot more work than the standard liberal arts major

My ass.

Go write me a symphony, then come back and tell me how easy it is, retard.

K.
Berklee, Composition, '95

I disagree. For one thing, there's alot more at Berklee than just playing music. There's Music Therapy, Music Business, Music Synthesis, Music Educaction, Music Production and Engineering, etc...
Those are things that you definately need to be schooled in before you do them. Do you want people teaching music who have no idea what they are doing? Do you want people being your Manager if they don't know anything about contracts? Perhaps you like lawyers that got their bar license from a TV ad.

Berklee doesn't suck the life outta music. People who aren't musicians don't really understand all that goes into it. For a second I will assume that you have played an instrument at some point. Ok, so you have 'talent' or you have the 'feeling'. Now can you write horn charts? No? Can you write music properly? Can you transcribe music after only hearing it once or twice? Do you know what chords would sound like before you play them, or do you have to use trial and error?

I agree, that hard conditions make better lyric writers. There's alot of 'art' to it, but you have to know what you are doing too. There's a TON of people who have won Grammies who went to Berklee.
I bet you like or listen to some of them.
The music industry is getting harder and harder to get into. People are finding that just leaving High School and playing guitar isn't gonna pay the bills, and they want more. I am glad I am at Berklee- but yes, I do plan to make business of it, but then again, I want to be a producer or engineer. Berklee doesn't make you want money only, but you need to pay for things, and people expect to get something for their time..

How many coders put 'soul' into their 'art'? Yes, those long hours of code are written better by underpaid programmers. They get better illegal operations or stack dumps...

For Those who haven't had to chance to discover it, and for those who may get nostalgic about it, here is a link to The Story of Mel from the Hacker Folklore section of the Jargon Dictionary.

that aside, Berklee College of Music in Massachusetts (named for founder Lee Berk) doesn't have a psych department. Berkeley in California might, although their Music Dept, it seems, does not even list such a class

Of course, we all know about the importance of the japanese to pearl

;-)

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