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Re:Orson Scott Card
Good for you, you proved the AC's (and my) point.
* God is a Trinity, the single eternal being existing in three persons: Father, Son (Divine Logos, incarnated as Jesus Christ), and Holy Spirit.
Mormons believe in all three beings, however we see them as three separate beings. We believe them to be distinct, separate entities, however joined in purpose and nature.
* Jesus is both fully God and fully human, two "natures" in one person.
Mormons believe this as well. Jesus is a God-like being as God is, however he has a body of flesh and bone. This gives him a duality of humanity and Godliness. His resurrected body lacks blood, which signifies immortality.
* Mary, the mother of Jesus, bore in her womb and gave birth to the Son of God (who is, himself, likewise God), who although eternally existent was formed in her womb by the Spirit of God. From her humanity he received in his person a human intellect and will, and all else that a child would naturally receive from its mother.
Again, Mormons believe this as well, with the exception that God and Jesus are separate entities. One example of this (I'm no Bible scholar) is during Jesus's baptism. As he was baptized, the voice of God was heard.
* Jesus is the Messiah hoped for by the Jews, the heir to the throne of David. He reigns at the right hand of the Father with all authority and power forevermore. He is the hope of all mankind, their advocate and judge. Until he returns at the end of the world, the Church has the authority and obligation to preach the Gospel and to gather new disciples.
Aligns with Mormon faith perfectly.
* Jesus was innocent of any sin. Through the death and resurrection of Jesus, believers are forgiven of sins and reconciled to God. Although virtually all Christians agree on this, there are a variety of views on the Significance of Jesus' resurrection. Believers are baptized into the resurrection and new life (or death in some groups) of Christ. Through faith, they live by the promise of resurrection from death to everlasting life through Christ. The Holy Spirit is sent to them by Christ, to bring hope and lead mankind into true knowledge of God and His purposes, and help them grow in holiness.
Once more aligned with Mormon faith. The Holy Spirit is sometimes referred to as the Holy Ghost, but the being referenced is the same. Regarding the crucifixion of Christ, we do not focus on His death, rather his resurrection and life, though His crucifixion was undoubtedly required of Him as the Savior of the world.
* Jesus will return personally, and bodily, to judge all mankind and receive the faithful to himself, so they will live forever in the intimate presence of God.
Ding ding. Another match.
* Some Christians, particularly in the West, refer to the Bible as the "Word of God." Other Christians, particularly in the East, believe that Jesus alone is the Word of God, and see Scripture as an authoritative book, inspired by God but written by men. As a result of these differing views, many Christians disagree to varying degrees about how accurate the Bible is and how it should be interpreted.
This passage almost shows that Mormons are indeed Christian. We believe the Bible (King James Version) to be the Word of God in so far as it has been translated correctly. We also believe that the Book of Mormon is another testament of Jesus. It is not a replacement for the Bible, but is to be used in addition to it. One does not "override" the other.
All that said it sounds like your professor was just spouting personal beliefs. Many people do consider correctly that Mormons are Christians.
If you look around you'll find conflicting results, but this is true of absolutely any philosophical or religious claim. -
Re:It's all a wind-up.
First, I think it's fascinating--and quite informative--that you chose to completely ignore my charges that your God murdered all the Egyptian first-born sons (a crime of which he boasts). If you care to reply to this note, I'd really appreciate a justification for that one. Be sure to address God's mind control game with Pharaoh--you know, where Pharaoh was all set, not once but all ten times, to let the Israelites go? And then ``God hardened Pharaoh's heart'' (Exodus 11:10 amongst several others).
You toss around terms like ``free will'' and ``God's love.'' If the Plagues don't demonstrate what God really thinks of them, I don't know what does.
Re Conquistadors: Do you really think this is the kind of behavour that Christian even condone? Do you even think that these people were Christians?
From all I know of them, they honestly believed themselves to be followers of Christ and his teachings. They claimed that their actions were in his name, and in accord with his teachings and his will. That, in my book, makes them Christians.
Further, we can plainly see that what they did was no different from what their (and your) God did himself (in the Plagues and elsewhere) and what their (and your) God caused, ordered, praised, or condoned far too many times to list in the Bible. That is, war, murder, torture, rape, pillage, and just basically be the scourge of the planet. Try 1 Samuel 15:3 and 7-8 for just one random example...of which there are scores.
When we then consider all the great crimes of the past two millennia, we discover that many of them have been done by Christians for Christ.
Finally, we see even today, with the Christian president of a once-atheist-but-now-Christian nation, how a Christian will lie and deceive for the sole purpose of launching an unprovoked and illegal war that has--surprise!--resulted in thousands of unnecessary civilian deaths and numerous acts of torture and various other atrocities.
So, yes, I think those people are Christians, and I think it's exactly the kind of behavior that Christians not only condone, but revel in and have perpetuated for thousands of years.
What you fail to understand is that everything is defined by God, not from our perspective. He created this world. He is also the source of all jsutice and love. Not that you are particulary interested in these it seems, you are more interested in calling love hate and justice injustice.
No. You define everything by God. If God created the world, who created God, and why can't I have a word with him about how God and his followers have run amok? Is it justice to murder a woman for looking over her shoulder (Genesis 19:26)? Is it love to force fathers and sons to eat each other (Ezekiel 5:10)?
It is not I that am perverting the words of the Bible by calling love hate and justice injustice. It is you, who insists that the greatest mass murderer in all of recorded fiction (Genesis 6:17) is loving and merciful.
Heck, your Bible even tells you so:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, -
Re:It's all a wind-up.
First, I think it's fascinating--and quite informative--that you chose to completely ignore my charges that your God murdered all the Egyptian first-born sons (a crime of which he boasts). If you care to reply to this note, I'd really appreciate a justification for that one. Be sure to address God's mind control game with Pharaoh--you know, where Pharaoh was all set, not once but all ten times, to let the Israelites go? And then ``God hardened Pharaoh's heart'' (Exodus 11:10 amongst several others).
You toss around terms like ``free will'' and ``God's love.'' If the Plagues don't demonstrate what God really thinks of them, I don't know what does.
Re Conquistadors: Do you really think this is the kind of behavour that Christian even condone? Do you even think that these people were Christians?
From all I know of them, they honestly believed themselves to be followers of Christ and his teachings. They claimed that their actions were in his name, and in accord with his teachings and his will. That, in my book, makes them Christians.
Further, we can plainly see that what they did was no different from what their (and your) God did himself (in the Plagues and elsewhere) and what their (and your) God caused, ordered, praised, or condoned far too many times to list in the Bible. That is, war, murder, torture, rape, pillage, and just basically be the scourge of the planet. Try 1 Samuel 15:3 and 7-8 for just one random example...of which there are scores.
When we then consider all the great crimes of the past two millennia, we discover that many of them have been done by Christians for Christ.
Finally, we see even today, with the Christian president of a once-atheist-but-now-Christian nation, how a Christian will lie and deceive for the sole purpose of launching an unprovoked and illegal war that has--surprise!--resulted in thousands of unnecessary civilian deaths and numerous acts of torture and various other atrocities.
So, yes, I think those people are Christians, and I think it's exactly the kind of behavior that Christians not only condone, but revel in and have perpetuated for thousands of years.
What you fail to understand is that everything is defined by God, not from our perspective. He created this world. He is also the source of all jsutice and love. Not that you are particulary interested in these it seems, you are more interested in calling love hate and justice injustice.
No. You define everything by God. If God created the world, who created God, and why can't I have a word with him about how God and his followers have run amok? Is it justice to murder a woman for looking over her shoulder (Genesis 19:26)? Is it love to force fathers and sons to eat each other (Ezekiel 5:10)?
It is not I that am perverting the words of the Bible by calling love hate and justice injustice. It is you, who insists that the greatest mass murderer in all of recorded fiction (Genesis 6:17) is loving and merciful.
Heck, your Bible even tells you so:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, -
Re:It's all a wind-up.
First, I think it's fascinating--and quite informative--that you chose to completely ignore my charges that your God murdered all the Egyptian first-born sons (a crime of which he boasts). If you care to reply to this note, I'd really appreciate a justification for that one. Be sure to address God's mind control game with Pharaoh--you know, where Pharaoh was all set, not once but all ten times, to let the Israelites go? And then ``God hardened Pharaoh's heart'' (Exodus 11:10 amongst several others).
You toss around terms like ``free will'' and ``God's love.'' If the Plagues don't demonstrate what God really thinks of them, I don't know what does.
Re Conquistadors: Do you really think this is the kind of behavour that Christian even condone? Do you even think that these people were Christians?
From all I know of them, they honestly believed themselves to be followers of Christ and his teachings. They claimed that their actions were in his name, and in accord with his teachings and his will. That, in my book, makes them Christians.
Further, we can plainly see that what they did was no different from what their (and your) God did himself (in the Plagues and elsewhere) and what their (and your) God caused, ordered, praised, or condoned far too many times to list in the Bible. That is, war, murder, torture, rape, pillage, and just basically be the scourge of the planet. Try 1 Samuel 15:3 and 7-8 for just one random example...of which there are scores.
When we then consider all the great crimes of the past two millennia, we discover that many of them have been done by Christians for Christ.
Finally, we see even today, with the Christian president of a once-atheist-but-now-Christian nation, how a Christian will lie and deceive for the sole purpose of launching an unprovoked and illegal war that has--surprise!--resulted in thousands of unnecessary civilian deaths and numerous acts of torture and various other atrocities.
So, yes, I think those people are Christians, and I think it's exactly the kind of behavior that Christians not only condone, but revel in and have perpetuated for thousands of years.
What you fail to understand is that everything is defined by God, not from our perspective. He created this world. He is also the source of all jsutice and love. Not that you are particulary interested in these it seems, you are more interested in calling love hate and justice injustice.
No. You define everything by God. If God created the world, who created God, and why can't I have a word with him about how God and his followers have run amok? Is it justice to murder a woman for looking over her shoulder (Genesis 19:26)? Is it love to force fathers and sons to eat each other (Ezekiel 5:10)?
It is not I that am perverting the words of the Bible by calling love hate and justice injustice. It is you, who insists that the greatest mass murderer in all of recorded fiction (Genesis 6:17) is loving and merciful.
Heck, your Bible even tells you so:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, -
Re:It's all a wind-up.
First, I think it's fascinating--and quite informative--that you chose to completely ignore my charges that your God murdered all the Egyptian first-born sons (a crime of which he boasts). If you care to reply to this note, I'd really appreciate a justification for that one. Be sure to address God's mind control game with Pharaoh--you know, where Pharaoh was all set, not once but all ten times, to let the Israelites go? And then ``God hardened Pharaoh's heart'' (Exodus 11:10 amongst several others).
You toss around terms like ``free will'' and ``God's love.'' If the Plagues don't demonstrate what God really thinks of them, I don't know what does.
Re Conquistadors: Do you really think this is the kind of behavour that Christian even condone? Do you even think that these people were Christians?
From all I know of them, they honestly believed themselves to be followers of Christ and his teachings. They claimed that their actions were in his name, and in accord with his teachings and his will. That, in my book, makes them Christians.
Further, we can plainly see that what they did was no different from what their (and your) God did himself (in the Plagues and elsewhere) and what their (and your) God caused, ordered, praised, or condoned far too many times to list in the Bible. That is, war, murder, torture, rape, pillage, and just basically be the scourge of the planet. Try 1 Samuel 15:3 and 7-8 for just one random example...of which there are scores.
When we then consider all the great crimes of the past two millennia, we discover that many of them have been done by Christians for Christ.
Finally, we see even today, with the Christian president of a once-atheist-but-now-Christian nation, how a Christian will lie and deceive for the sole purpose of launching an unprovoked and illegal war that has--surprise!--resulted in thousands of unnecessary civilian deaths and numerous acts of torture and various other atrocities.
So, yes, I think those people are Christians, and I think it's exactly the kind of behavior that Christians not only condone, but revel in and have perpetuated for thousands of years.
What you fail to understand is that everything is defined by God, not from our perspective. He created this world. He is also the source of all jsutice and love. Not that you are particulary interested in these it seems, you are more interested in calling love hate and justice injustice.
No. You define everything by God. If God created the world, who created God, and why can't I have a word with him about how God and his followers have run amok? Is it justice to murder a woman for looking over her shoulder (Genesis 19:26)? Is it love to force fathers and sons to eat each other (Ezekiel 5:10)?
It is not I that am perverting the words of the Bible by calling love hate and justice injustice. It is you, who insists that the greatest mass murderer in all of recorded fiction (Genesis 6:17) is loving and merciful.
Heck, your Bible even tells you so:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, -
Re:It's all a wind-up.
First, I think it's fascinating--and quite informative--that you chose to completely ignore my charges that your God murdered all the Egyptian first-born sons (a crime of which he boasts). If you care to reply to this note, I'd really appreciate a justification for that one. Be sure to address God's mind control game with Pharaoh--you know, where Pharaoh was all set, not once but all ten times, to let the Israelites go? And then ``God hardened Pharaoh's heart'' (Exodus 11:10 amongst several others).
You toss around terms like ``free will'' and ``God's love.'' If the Plagues don't demonstrate what God really thinks of them, I don't know what does.
Re Conquistadors: Do you really think this is the kind of behavour that Christian even condone? Do you even think that these people were Christians?
From all I know of them, they honestly believed themselves to be followers of Christ and his teachings. They claimed that their actions were in his name, and in accord with his teachings and his will. That, in my book, makes them Christians.
Further, we can plainly see that what they did was no different from what their (and your) God did himself (in the Plagues and elsewhere) and what their (and your) God caused, ordered, praised, or condoned far too many times to list in the Bible. That is, war, murder, torture, rape, pillage, and just basically be the scourge of the planet. Try 1 Samuel 15:3 and 7-8 for just one random example...of which there are scores.
When we then consider all the great crimes of the past two millennia, we discover that many of them have been done by Christians for Christ.
Finally, we see even today, with the Christian president of a once-atheist-but-now-Christian nation, how a Christian will lie and deceive for the sole purpose of launching an unprovoked and illegal war that has--surprise!--resulted in thousands of unnecessary civilian deaths and numerous acts of torture and various other atrocities.
So, yes, I think those people are Christians, and I think it's exactly the kind of behavior that Christians not only condone, but revel in and have perpetuated for thousands of years.
What you fail to understand is that everything is defined by God, not from our perspective. He created this world. He is also the source of all jsutice and love. Not that you are particulary interested in these it seems, you are more interested in calling love hate and justice injustice.
No. You define everything by God. If God created the world, who created God, and why can't I have a word with him about how God and his followers have run amok? Is it justice to murder a woman for looking over her shoulder (Genesis 19:26)? Is it love to force fathers and sons to eat each other (Ezekiel 5:10)?
It is not I that am perverting the words of the Bible by calling love hate and justice injustice. It is you, who insists that the greatest mass murderer in all of recorded fiction (Genesis 6:17) is loving and merciful.
Heck, your Bible even tells you so:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, -
Re:It's all a wind-up.
First, I think it's fascinating--and quite informative--that you chose to completely ignore my charges that your God murdered all the Egyptian first-born sons (a crime of which he boasts). If you care to reply to this note, I'd really appreciate a justification for that one. Be sure to address God's mind control game with Pharaoh--you know, where Pharaoh was all set, not once but all ten times, to let the Israelites go? And then ``God hardened Pharaoh's heart'' (Exodus 11:10 amongst several others).
You toss around terms like ``free will'' and ``God's love.'' If the Plagues don't demonstrate what God really thinks of them, I don't know what does.
Re Conquistadors: Do you really think this is the kind of behavour that Christian even condone? Do you even think that these people were Christians?
From all I know of them, they honestly believed themselves to be followers of Christ and his teachings. They claimed that their actions were in his name, and in accord with his teachings and his will. That, in my book, makes them Christians.
Further, we can plainly see that what they did was no different from what their (and your) God did himself (in the Plagues and elsewhere) and what their (and your) God caused, ordered, praised, or condoned far too many times to list in the Bible. That is, war, murder, torture, rape, pillage, and just basically be the scourge of the planet. Try 1 Samuel 15:3 and 7-8 for just one random example...of which there are scores.
When we then consider all the great crimes of the past two millennia, we discover that many of them have been done by Christians for Christ.
Finally, we see even today, with the Christian president of a once-atheist-but-now-Christian nation, how a Christian will lie and deceive for the sole purpose of launching an unprovoked and illegal war that has--surprise!--resulted in thousands of unnecessary civilian deaths and numerous acts of torture and various other atrocities.
So, yes, I think those people are Christians, and I think it's exactly the kind of behavior that Christians not only condone, but revel in and have perpetuated for thousands of years.
What you fail to understand is that everything is defined by God, not from our perspective. He created this world. He is also the source of all jsutice and love. Not that you are particulary interested in these it seems, you are more interested in calling love hate and justice injustice.
No. You define everything by God. If God created the world, who created God, and why can't I have a word with him about how God and his followers have run amok? Is it justice to murder a woman for looking over her shoulder (Genesis 19:26)? Is it love to force fathers and sons to eat each other (Ezekiel 5:10)?
It is not I that am perverting the words of the Bible by calling love hate and justice injustice. It is you, who insists that the greatest mass murderer in all of recorded fiction (Genesis 6:17) is loving and merciful.
Heck, your Bible even tells you so:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, -
Re:It's all a wind-up.
First, I think it's fascinating--and quite informative--that you chose to completely ignore my charges that your God murdered all the Egyptian first-born sons (a crime of which he boasts). If you care to reply to this note, I'd really appreciate a justification for that one. Be sure to address God's mind control game with Pharaoh--you know, where Pharaoh was all set, not once but all ten times, to let the Israelites go? And then ``God hardened Pharaoh's heart'' (Exodus 11:10 amongst several others).
You toss around terms like ``free will'' and ``God's love.'' If the Plagues don't demonstrate what God really thinks of them, I don't know what does.
Re Conquistadors: Do you really think this is the kind of behavour that Christian even condone? Do you even think that these people were Christians?
From all I know of them, they honestly believed themselves to be followers of Christ and his teachings. They claimed that their actions were in his name, and in accord with his teachings and his will. That, in my book, makes them Christians.
Further, we can plainly see that what they did was no different from what their (and your) God did himself (in the Plagues and elsewhere) and what their (and your) God caused, ordered, praised, or condoned far too many times to list in the Bible. That is, war, murder, torture, rape, pillage, and just basically be the scourge of the planet. Try 1 Samuel 15:3 and 7-8 for just one random example...of which there are scores.
When we then consider all the great crimes of the past two millennia, we discover that many of them have been done by Christians for Christ.
Finally, we see even today, with the Christian president of a once-atheist-but-now-Christian nation, how a Christian will lie and deceive for the sole purpose of launching an unprovoked and illegal war that has--surprise!--resulted in thousands of unnecessary civilian deaths and numerous acts of torture and various other atrocities.
So, yes, I think those people are Christians, and I think it's exactly the kind of behavior that Christians not only condone, but revel in and have perpetuated for thousands of years.
What you fail to understand is that everything is defined by God, not from our perspective. He created this world. He is also the source of all jsutice and love. Not that you are particulary interested in these it seems, you are more interested in calling love hate and justice injustice.
No. You define everything by God. If God created the world, who created God, and why can't I have a word with him about how God and his followers have run amok? Is it justice to murder a woman for looking over her shoulder (Genesis 19:26)? Is it love to force fathers and sons to eat each other (Ezekiel 5:10)?
It is not I that am perverting the words of the Bible by calling love hate and justice injustice. It is you, who insists that the greatest mass murderer in all of recorded fiction (Genesis 6:17) is loving and merciful.
Heck, your Bible even tells you so:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, -
Re:First Person Shooters?Matthew 18:6 (King James Version)
6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me,
it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and
that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.This verse could be more a warning to be careful not to lead others to sin rather than it being about child abusers. Little ones would refer to His children, being those who believe in Christ.
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Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Re:Event simpler than that
1'st John 4:8: "God is love".
Your God, according to your Bible, is a study in contradiction if nothing else. A short snippet from a longer list:
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, -
Matthew 10:32-36
(bold denotes Jesus speaking)
32 "Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.
34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
36 "A man's enemies will be the members of his own household."
Link. -
Re:It's all a wind-up.
God gave mankind the gift of free will so that they could use that free will to obey him and thus show that they loved him as much as he loved them.
Where does it say that ? No where. That is simply your or your sunday school interpretation.
They were perfect, and as such they would make no mistakes.
Where does it say that ? How do you KNOW? Were you there ? Or is this someones interpretation?
They *chose* to disobey God. They decided they did not want to submit to Gods authority. That one tree was the only way that they had to prove that they were faithful to God.
You mean to say that before they ate from the tree, they had no knowledge of good and evil. So HOW could they have known that eating from the tree is evil ? More importantly, how could they know obeying god is good?? Do we punish little toddlers the FIRST time they hit someone with a bat? Do we punish our children and their countless generations FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES for ONE mistake ?
Dosent that sound like megalo-psycho-mania? So how exactly did people figure out that god is forgiving ? -
Re:Another giant step backward...
(I'm only posing via "Anonymous Coward" because I'm too lazy to get a
/. login.)
People that think fossils were placed here by God to test our faith are idiots. Well intentioned idiots perhaps, but idiots nonetheless. There's a perfectly biblical and scientific answer. If you've ever read the Bible, you might have heard about a little thing called "The Flood." During which the entire earth was covered in water which perfectly explains the existance of fossilized shells on mountain tops. If you think that's rediculous consider the fact that if the earth were flat there's enough water on the planet to cover everything in a mile and a half of water.
Show me "clear evidence of the evolutionary process throughout history via these fossils" and I'll show you scientist that's been looking too long and too hard for something that doesn't exsist. There is much evidence to show variation within a kind (different races of humans, etc.) but no evidence whatsoever "proving" that one _species_ evolved from a completely different _species_. Great, so you found finches with different shaped beaks. Guess what? They're all still FINCHES. There's no bat finch, no lizzard finch, and no butterfly finch.
Show me a "missing link" and I'll so you a platypus. What does a platypus prove other than the fact that God has a wonderful sense of humor?
Science hasn't _proved_ a thing about evolution. It's all a THEORY. And a bad one at that.
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Re:Another giant step backward...
Scientists have clear evidence of the evolutionary process throughout history via these fossils.
If this is indeed true, we should expect to find a large percentage of fossils that are trasitionary (a cross between 2 species). To date, we have found a big fat ZERO of these fossils. That doesn't sound like "clear evidence" to me.where exactly did they [the fossils] come from if the planet is in fact only 6000-odd years old? I've asked creationists this question, and they've actually replied that they were placed here by God to test our faith.
I agree; this is non-sense. "If a literal interpretation of the Bible is correct," then a catastrophic event would have been required. In Genesis 6, such an event is described. Any "scientist" will tell you that, given the right conditions (heat, pressure, rapid burial, etc.), fossils can be formed in a relatively short amount of time.Two, regarding the wider scope of Intellegent Design, why does that necessarily have to conflict with the established theory of evolution?
Evolution may not disprove the existence of God, but it's a very convenient way for people to remove God from their lives and live their own way. ... Can't the ID folks consider the possibility that evolution is the tool God used to create us? Evolution does not disprove the existence of God. -
Re:incomplete comparison != invalid
Why is it that everyone likes to take a swipe at Christians and then totally gets it wrong?
Please try reading the Bible. (Btw, you're talking about Ephesians 5). Everyone quotes verse 22, but ignores the ones after. You can't quote one verse, taken out of context, and make a claim like that.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=56&ch apter=5&version=31
The counterpoint verse (#25) is... "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her"
Hmmm.... so we should love our wives so much that we would be willing to die to protect them.
That doesn't sound so bad. In fact, I would suggest that if people followed that verse more, there would be fewer divorces, fewer children living in broken homes, and stronger families.
"Fundamentalist" means that we adhere to a set of time-proven beliefs, even when the world around us changes. I would suggest that "the world" needs to find a more solid moral foundation than the shifting sands of what is currently in fashion.
Oh and btw, I believe that you are wrong about abortion. It is equally detrimental to men... after all half of all the babies killed ARE male... -
Re:This article contains material on evolution.
Wow since you have so much faith in the scientific process, I invite you to answer God's questions in Job 38-40.
Here's a link to make things convenient for you. -
Similar to what is described in Mark's Gospel?
That would explain why the blind man at Bethsaida described in Mark 8:22-25 who couldn't see properly after Jesus restored his sight. To copy and paste,
And they came to Bethsaida, and they brought a blind man to Jesus and implored Him to touch him.
Taking the blind man by the hand, He brought him out of the village; and after spitting on his eyes and laying His hands on him, He asked him, "Do you see anything?"
And he looked up and said, "I see men, for I see them like trees, walking around."
Then again He laid His hands on his eyes; and he looked intently and was restored, and began to see everything clearly. -
Re:Giggles.But...Biblical faith is trust. In spite of popular misconception, it does not mean "blind belief".
Take Acts 17:31 (NASB), where the word for "faith" is translated as "proof"."because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead."
Or take Romans 3:3, where a reference is made to the "pistis" of God, translated "faithfulness"."What then? If some did not believe, their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will it?"
There is Hebrews 11:1 to deal with:Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
However, if you look at the list of pillars of the faith that follows, it's clear this does not mean faith is belief without evidence. The list includes people who had direct communication with God or who had seen miracles prior to their acts of faith. Their faith consisted of trusting something that had been proven trustworthy.
If you're going to use the word in the context of Christianity, you can't use the definition "blind belief".
Anyone who rejects evidence on the basis of their "faith" to the contrary is an unmitigated idiot, and they're not using a Christian definition of faith. -
Re:From his site
You're citing the King James Version, so "threescore" is probably there because it was the popular way to say 60 in England around AD 1600. The numerological meaning would be tied to the original language - Greek?
This is a nifty site with different translations. Here it's claimed that some versions give the number as 616!
So... good luck :)