Domain: biztld.net
Stories and comments across the archive that link to biztld.net.
Comments · 14
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Re:NamesYou don't have to wait for
.xxx ... New.net has been offering this extension for years.Which brings up an interesting question: can ICANN just usurp New.net's market in
.xxx domains without compensating New.net for the destruction of their business? I believe this already happened with the .biz extension, which was originally offered by Atlantic Root Network.- Ryan
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Re:The Wild Wild Web is born again...
They've already done it.
.biz was already in use when ICANN adopted it.
Yup, and biztld bitched about it when they did it. Despite the fact that only "over 1000" suckers bought into it between 1996 and 2000. -
Re:What we need
There already exists alternative root servers organized by the ORSC. For the most part, they seem to be providing hundreds their own set of TLD's (.god for example) as well as ICANN's official set (.com/.org/.net).
The only real problem is the ".biz" namespace collision. When ICANN requested suggestions for new gTLDs, the OSRC sumbitted their application, stating that they had been running a functioning .biz TLD for years. However, ICANN selected someone else to run the .biz gTLD.
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Re:CoolSuprised no one has mentioned the other
.biz TLD (there may be more). Not that they were all that serious a challenge or anything, but they were there first, etc.
...since
.US and .BIZ come from the same place now, though; "holding out" for the old .biz is going to be rough.
These folks know the legal system better than we do, and they can, will, and have changed the rules to suit them whenever we manage to threaten to have some input. They do not know jack about the technical realities, and that's the vulnerability.
Don't like ICANN's new TLDs? Filter the fuckers. Declare your own roots, forward to whomever you think has the best plan for managing "the namespace". We'll vote with our feet.
These folks can't take over "our" net; they're clue-proofed. They're really close to having us give it to them ourselves, though.
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I switched my DNS servers, have you done yours?Yesterday I recieved an email titled "RE: URGENT:
.BIZ Registry Phase I has opened - take steps to get the name you want..."It's obviously a ploy by Network Solutions/Verisign to legitimize their new offer of the
.BIZ TLD. They want to get as many users as possible to send them money, and build thier legitimacy at the same time. They want to prod people into action. In my case it worked, but I did the opposite of what they wanted, and you should too .It appears that the legitimate holder of the
.BIZ registry is biztld.net, and that NSI saw this as too much money to let someone else take, and is in the process of a coup d'état to grab it for themselves.Instead of acting like a sheep to be fleeced, I took the following actions:
- Replied to their email with this:
It's my understanding that Network Solutions is NOT the legitimate operator of the .BIZ domain, what agreement have you reached with the current holders of that domain?? - Set up a new db.cache, for our companies name servers, which lists all the roots for each domain, including countries, and now I determine who is the legitimate registrar for every TLD
In my mind this is a stopgap measure, as my choice was arbitrary, and I really don't want the maintenance headache of having to keep a few hundred TLD entries up to date. I've taken our 30 users out of the ICANN/NSI pool, and will now seeks a better authority to trust in the long run.
It'll be interesting to see what grass roots efforts evolve from this, and what a democratically run Domain Name System looks like.
I strongly suggest everyone else do the same, and vote with your bits.
--Mike--
- Replied to their email with this:
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Domain hijackers
You can fault ICANN for many reasons but telling the
.web and .biz squatters to take a long walk off a short pier is not one of them.The wildcat squatters were told when they began that they would not be recognized.
The application by IOD, a current operator of
.web, received an inaccurate assessment and was rejected. However, because of the dispute, ICANN also avoided giving .web to Afilias, and assigned them .info instead.ICANN wasn't entirely dismissive of IOD, perhaps because IOD actually paid the exorbitant $50,000 fee and applied for it. IOD has also demonstrated a willingness to fight for
.web in their Federal lawsuit against CORE, another .web operator, for unfair competition and trademark infringement.Inconsistently, ICANN ignored a similar conflict with
.biz, and gave it to NeuLevel, ignoring Pacific Root's operation of the legitimate .biz domain for the past six years. -
Re:.biz
Did ICANN ever resolve the issue that there was a pre-existing
.biz domain which the (IIRC) Alternic people were supporting?
According to their list of TLDs, Alternic does not support a .biz domain. I think you want biztld.com, which also has a blurb about ICANN's announcment (not a happy one). -
Re:Free gTLD Registration!The whole point of a TLD is to provide a central authority to keep track of a set of names.
That was the original intent. Today there's not much hierarchy. Whatever server "knows"
.com has a more or less complete list of all the domain names. Ok, there's .edu, .net, .org, .mil, and country names, but .com is so much larger than effectively one database holds all the names.When talking about things "ought to be", I'm suprised that so little is mentioned about introducing more heirarchy. Maybe another level of hierarchy is more than the average consumer's (joe sixpack user) limited mental model capacity can handle?
About the speed-up... does anyone else see this as an attempt to bypass the growing pressure they're under for having made such arbitrary decisions without any accountability for the basis behind them?
Maybe I'm overly suspicious... ICANN's got such a clean record, I'm sure they'd never do anything like...
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Understand DNS?
There is, of course, a catch. Only a minuscule portion of computers connected to the Internet are configured to recognize dot-biz names, and unless you're using one, you'll get one of those irksome can't-find-that-site errors.
Doesn't a client just talk to a DNS server that translates an address to an ip? So wouldn't the problem actually be with the DNS servers not being correctly configured?
Here is some info from biztld.net:
If your ISP has not yet upgraded their domain servers from the ICANN Legacy Namespace to the ORSC INCLUSIVE NAMESPACE Supported by The PacificRoot, you may not be able to resolve many of the new Internet domain names currently being activated. If that is the case, you will need to Upgrade your DNS here.
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Re:Good idea, wrong gTLDs
It's far far too late to save
.org and .net, I say on slashdot.org, and ICANN should admit it. Perhaps new domains such as .npo and .isp could be handled better.Atlatantic Root Network, Inc. (http://www.biztld.net) has
.NGO (registered non-governmental orgs) and .NPO (non-profit orgs). Both of these require certification of status. There are international requirements to be certified as an NGO and we are all familiar with what an NPO is...There is a niche for TLDs such as these, and we are certainly not against having restricted TLDs. How about
.NOT for those "parody" and criticism sites? It's available.There is also a need for true gTLDs, which we will not see with this round of ICANN choices.
If people check into the availability of gTLDs which resolve to the ORSC rootzone, I think they will be pleasantly surprised.
We also have 2 gTLDs -
.ONLINE and .ETC. As with .BIZ, however, they cannot be transferred once registered. So, if you are looking for multiple names to re-sell, sorry. They are meant for those who intend to use them. Before registering a name with any registrar, read Terms and Conditions so that there are NO surprises. (http://www.biztld.net/biztos.html)There is no UDRP, but there are TM laws, so keep in mind that this is not a free-for-all. The prices are low enough for anyone to be able to register a domain name and there are rules to abide by.
Also, remember that registration services are just that - services. This is true for any registry. No one owns an address, telephone number, or domain name. It is yours to use during the registration period. If people understood this, a lot of contentiousness would disappear.
Repeat after me: It's just an address...It's just an address...
When the public is more aware of the fact that the name space really is open and that the legacy root is not the only answer, we can get back to using the Internet for everyone and not just the megacorporations who are trying to "own" something that can't be bought. It's an evolution process in its infancy.
By the way, one of the very first domains was
.NOMAD. Guess what, folks. Domain names in .NOMAD are free - no charge - nada. http://www.pacificroot.com
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Re:Good idea, wrong gTLDs
It's far far too late to save
.org and .net, I say on slashdot.org, and ICANN should admit it. Perhaps new domains such as .npo and .isp could be handled better.Atlatantic Root Network, Inc. (http://www.biztld.net) has
.NGO (registered non-governmental orgs) and .NPO (non-profit orgs). Both of these require certification of status. There are international requirements to be certified as an NGO and we are all familiar with what an NPO is...There is a niche for TLDs such as these, and we are certainly not against having restricted TLDs. How about
.NOT for those "parody" and criticism sites? It's available.There is also a need for true gTLDs, which we will not see with this round of ICANN choices.
If people check into the availability of gTLDs which resolve to the ORSC rootzone, I think they will be pleasantly surprised.
We also have 2 gTLDs -
.ONLINE and .ETC. As with .BIZ, however, they cannot be transferred once registered. So, if you are looking for multiple names to re-sell, sorry. They are meant for those who intend to use them. Before registering a name with any registrar, read Terms and Conditions so that there are NO surprises. (http://www.biztld.net/biztos.html)There is no UDRP, but there are TM laws, so keep in mind that this is not a free-for-all. The prices are low enough for anyone to be able to register a domain name and there are rules to abide by.
Also, remember that registration services are just that - services. This is true for any registry. No one owns an address, telephone number, or domain name. It is yours to use during the registration period. If people understood this, a lot of contentiousness would disappear.
Repeat after me: It's just an address...It's just an address...
When the public is more aware of the fact that the name space really is open and that the legacy root is not the only answer, we can get back to using the Internet for everyone and not just the megacorporations who are trying to "own" something that can't be bought. It's an evolution process in its infancy.
By the way, one of the very first domains was
.NOMAD. Guess what, folks. Domain names in .NOMAD are free - no charge - nada. http://www.pacificroot.com
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THERE IS ANOTHER, OLDER, CHEAPER .BIZ
.BIZ was first deployed by Karl Denninger around 5 years ago. I think he charged $25 or something. Karl subsequently sold MCS.NET and these days Leah Gallegos runs .BIZ. I think she charges about $6 with the idea that that's wholesale and anybody can be a "registrar" for somebody else or just grab domains for themselves. The URL is HTTP://WWW.BIZTLD.NET .
The .BIZ TLD resolves in many of the popular alternative root clusters: ORSC, TINC, PacROOT
Being outside the ICANN/US Government system means it's not subject to dangerous foolishness like the horribly flawed UDRP and silly-assed "sunrise" provision. -
ICANN creates conflicting TLDThe
.BIZ TLD is already in use. Has been for ages.The
.BIZ registry is here: http://www.biztld.net/ -
.BIZ is already in operation