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Re:What does Wikileaks get from this?
The rape charges are fake.
Just like the governments are fake democracies or republics.
We have a hybrid Kleptocratic Fascist Plutocracy...
or some other near variation.We have a One World Government forming just like we were warned
about by Samuel Zane Battens in 1919, and HG Wells in 1940,
and others since then.Let Julian take the brain finger printing test at a nuetral nation,
and I'd ask some country to grant him asylum until his
guilt or innocence can be proven.http://www.brainwavescience.com/
The governments of the world are corrupt beyond belief and
their are no exceptions. -
This study contradicts Rosenfeld's own research
This is really interesting as Rosenfeld himself has previously railed against other neuroscientists for commercializing P300 based lie detectors with claims of 100% accuracy:
Simple, effective countermeasures to P300-based tests of detection of concealed information - J. PETER ROSENFELD,a MATTHEW SOSKINS,a GREGORY BOSH,a and ANDREW RYAN"It seemed timely to investigate countermeasures to ERP-based tests also because although there have been many laboratory studies claiming 85-95% accuracy, only one field study has been published, but it reported approximately chance accuracy (Miyake, Mizutani, & Yamahura, 1993). Nevertheless, one user of these methods claims 100% accuracy and is presently attempting to commercialize them (see http://www.brainwavescience.com/). Finally, the ERP approach has now surfaced in popular novels, for example, Coonts (2003), as a foolproof method."
..."It is noted that the subjects used by Farwell and Donchin were paid volunteers, including associates of the experimenters. Our presently reported study uses introductory psychology students as subjects, more like the subjects one might find in the field in the sense of relative lack of motivation to cooperate with operators, and perhaps lower intelligence."
The above is the original peer-reviewed paper, this review (also by Rosenfeld) below is more recent and concise:
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Re:What is the real issue here ?
http://www.brainwavescience.com/
While not perfect, this has freed other prisoners legally,
and this could be used to determine her guilt or innocence
to a very high probability.
Much more so than just a simple polygraph. -
Re:Possible other uses
It already has (to some extent) http://www.brainwavescience.com/HomePage.php
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Re:depends...
Perhaps they could use brain fingerprinting; they already have offices in Iowa.
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Finally someone's come up with a way....
...to counter this:
http://www.brainwavescience.com/counterterrorism.p hp ...apparently this technology could be used to 'brute force' someone's knowledge of anything (passwords), but if you don't know the password, there will be no way for it to work. -
Algorithm Revealed!
Algorithm for determining terrorist tendencies revealed:
- Drives automobile with 'unpatriotic' themed bumper stickers as detected by stoplight 'traffic' video cameras (examples of offending stickers: "Bring our troops home", "No blood for oil", "Save the Whales")
- Home contains 'subversive' media as detected by random drive-by RFID scans of neighborhood (examples of offending materials: Farhenheit 9/11 DVD, Free as In Freedom, framed U.S. Constitution hanging on wall)
- Home computer uses 'non-government-approved-cyber-terrorist-hacker operating system', as determined from network scans subpoenaed from ISP's (and kept secret per the 'Patriot' Act(TM))
- Home computer accesses 'questionable' websites... centers of thought for known subversives, all too frequently. (examples: slashdot, kuro5hin, news.google.com)
- Subject's brain displays 'unacceptable' patterns of activity as determined by random drive-by, neighborhood cerebral scans (examples: Considering joining a labor union, Switching to alternative fuels, or voting for the 'wrong' candidate) [someone will point out that they can't do this remotely...yet, but you can bet your bottom dollar they're working around the clock on a solution]
- Subject makes 'strange' store purchases as recorded in credit/debit/check card billing history. (examples: Vitamin supplements [aren't our FDA sponsored^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H approved remedies good enough for them?], pizza [long known to be the preferred food of hacker-terrorists])
- Subject frequently votes for 'non-traditional' 3rd parties, instead of participating in our beloved Two Party System(TM) as recorded by the new, improved, and federally mandated Diebold Cyber-Voting Machines.
- Subject resists indoctrination^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H avoids our tried and true 'national passtimes' of televised sporting events, sitcoms, and talk shows, according to digital cable/satellite viewing records, preferring, instead, to spend more time on the internet -- a proven tendency of the typical terrorist/hacker.
- Subject avoids our wonderful system of 'No Child Left Behind'(TM) public education where they'll be taught useful skills like 'how to conform', 'shut up and let the teacher finish the lesson', and 'How to beat the essay E-grader'
...by sending their children to private/home schools, and therefore putting them in danger of, indeed, 'being left behind'. - Subject conducts searches for 'forbidden' terms on Google (examples: "Abu Ghraib Prison", "community involvement", "private schools") [I know we all love Google here, but they're not perfect, just look at Gmail's privacy issues]
- Subject actually goes to the public library and checks out *any* books as evidenced by library checkout history. This is an obvious sign of a non-passive participant in society^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H terrorist -- someone who does too much thinking^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H planning/scheming, and could be dangerous.
... The sad thing is, this is nothing. I could go on for days about various things like these that are in the works, or already in place that can be used to create an evironment that would make the old U.S.S.R. blush (Soviet Russia jokes not withstanding
;-) )"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." --Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Court justice, 1928
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P300 Wave
Metafilter pointed me towards a really interesting model for managing deception: Recognition detection. The idea is, rather than find out if someone is lying or not, simply find out if they recognize an object or scene they could only recognize if they were guilty. A certain brainwave, coined the P300 Wave, is emitted within a certain number of milliseconds of seeing an item one recognizes. One study, done by a group called Brain Wave Science, was able to reliably (and perfectly) separate FBI agents from average civilians by showing pictures of items from FBI training courses and operations. Detailed information may be found here.
I, of course, make no claims as to the veracity or accuracy of this material. But this wave is not pure pseudoscience -- the NYT has an article showing how weak P300's correspond to weak signal recognition. And BWS isn't the only group looking into P300 and deception.
There are other approaches -- blood flow and PET scans come to mind -- but this has the advantage of involving just a few electrodes.
So -- we may yet see a lie detector functional in our lifetime. Of course, it won't always be trusted, for reasons similar to the legalistic need for occasional exceptions to the rule of unique suspect DNA identifiers. But it'll be there.
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Re:MalingeringThe ERP study you're referring to was run by Farwell and Donchin. Donchin is a well respected ERP researcher, and Farwell was his student.
It should be noted that Farwell is a bit of a publicity hound, and has formed his own company called Brainwave Science which peddles a technique he calls "Brain Fingerprinting" (Yes, a stupid name). He has essentially overstated the value of his technique, and now claims it can be used to detect terrorists. The NYTimes did a decent article on the issue here (free reg, blah blah).
Oh, and it's been shown that you can demonstrate the same effect by simply measuring reaction times (no need for goofy electrode cap) (Seymour, T.L.; Seifert, C.M.; Mosmann, A.M. and Shafto, M.G. Using response time measures to assess "Guilty Knowledge". Journal of Applied Psychology, 2000, 85.)
As someone who works in the field (and who is avoiding trouble by posting anonymously), I can tell you that these techniques are not well suited for practical use. Also, with some exceptions (e.g., Farwell), most researchers don't make grand claims about applications of such technologies. The publicity offices at universities and journals like to jazz things up a bit by overstating scientific findings -- gets the university's name out there.