Domain: canadianisp.ca
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Comments · 8
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Re:Just say no!
The problem is, we only have 2 viable choices in Canada, Bell and Rogers (where most of my services currently are). They usually mirror each other step for step, so if Rogers follows suit, there is no way to "Just say no" without foregoing telecommunication services completely.
Not true. Check out TPIA's like Start, Teksavvy, E.box, or execulink. Canadian ISP gives you a list in your own area. There are other "last mile" companies like Telus, Videotron, Shaw and so on too. But if you're in Ontario it's pretty much Bell and Rogers, or Shaw if you're in Hamilton, or one of the areas that had multiple competitors before the big "buy up" back in 2014ish.
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Re:Just say no!
Mind sharing what is that wonderful ISP you found?
Check Canadianisp.ca there are a lot of TPIA's(Third Party Internet Access) as they're called up here, which is basically owning their own equipment but leasing the last mile from from incumbents.
I'm biased towards Teksavvy, Start and Ebox. Only because they were the ones leading the way back when Bell and Rogers were trying to impose punitive tariffs on those ISP's, that would have driven a 5/1Mbps price from $33/mo(200GB) to $129/mo, while they charged $59/mo for the same service with a 30GB cap for residential customers.
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Re:Need a better opinion
Ah a west-coast canuck. I'm a east-coaster.
We have 5 companies in total that another poster listed. Remember though, up until a few years ago we had zero competition, becuase these companies wanted to maintain a monopoly. Now you can pick any ISP you want, and pretty much get anything you want in terms of speed as long as it's available in your area.
http://canadianisp.ca/ is a fine resource for those who want to look around, myself I'm on Teksavvy(25/10 grandfathered plan though there are better I'm happy with it)--I pay the same rate I did in 2002 when I first got broadband from Rogers, and have a 300GB cap with zap the cap on--I have an unlimited cap but am throttled from 8pm to midnight. Midnight to 6am I believe it is downloads are always unlimited on every plan. Anyway, we've got lots of competition here now besides the incumbents. It reminds me of the US broadband market back in '99-01ish when you could get a 6/1DSL line for $9/mo unlimited in Indianapolis.
Now the problem in western canada is we've got lots of people moving there from the east and all of these companies have their heads up their ass in terms of rollouts for ports on DSL, and oversubbed cable lines. My sister is in Grande Cache, she's lived there now for 4-5 years, and it wasn't until last year when I was out there that she was able to get broadband because there were no ports available. It's a mess, a really bad mess. So much so that the improvement districts are looking at setting up their own municipal internet solution.
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Re:Opt Out!
Bell are a monopoly in all the small markets.
Yeah that's not true at all, people just can't be bothered to search. The city where I live in, in Ontario has ~35k people, I have 57 ISP's to choose from, the next nearest town has ~8k people, they have 70 ISP's to chose from. If I choose a major city like London, or K-W you can easily see 80-140 ISP's. The only places where Bell, Rogers, Telus, etc are a monopoly are in subdivisions where they're installing and forcing people into a contract term when they buy a new house. www.canadianisp.ca is a godsend.
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Re:Finally
There are gobs to choose from: See canadianisp.ca.
To be fair most all of them rent most of their infrastructure from Bell or Rogers, but their policies can be quite different. For example, my ISP permits me to run servers and is net neutral on their network. Once the packets hit someone else's fiber it's beyond their control of course.
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Not up here...
Except in Canada, where Bell has to play nice and share their copper with the other kids. In my city, there's no less than 18 DSL providers I can pick and choose from:
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Re:Unlimited plans
Please. My quick search shows that the *vast* majority of Canadian ISPs have unlimited bandwidth. Most that do have bandwidth caps set it at a reasonably generous 200GB.
See: http://www.canadianisp.ca/cgi-bin/ispsearch.cgiI have Teksavvy.com, which is $40/month (in Ontario, at least) for unlimited bandwidth.
It's only if you have the misfortune of subscribing to the services of a monopoly like Rogers or Bell that you'd be scraping the bottom of the ISP barrel. These companies profit by marketing to the ignorant masses, and peddling the lowest common denominator. The quality of their service is irrelevant, so long as it meets the basic expectations of a statistically significant segment of the masses.
Contrast this with the plethora of competitive ISPs in Canada who must compete on quality of service.
That's not to say that your area has much choice in ISP. However, if it's anywhere halfway urban, there ought to be at least one non-monopoly choice.
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Re:Who are "Shaw" and "Rogers"?
The phone company does not have a monopoly on the local loop in Canada. It is required to offer, at a government set price, wholesale service to all comers. Miraculously, it still makes money hand over fist. The other result: 3 MB down/800K up ADSL with a static ip can be had for about 30 $US/month... 36 different DSL ISP's in Montreal ( a big city) according to... http://www.canadianisp.ca/ Oh, and the service is great too. Lastly, you can shop around the agreements to find one that allows servers, and does not block ports. They exist, because ISP's compete here.