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  1. Now that's a monopoly you can be proud of! by freality · · Score: 1 · on Dutch Pass iPod Tax

    What kind of monopoly would the professional content industry be if it didn't extract a tax from consumers for work it didn't do? A poor one. A poor one indeed.

    This Stichting Thuiskopie Foundation has already succeeded at taxing DVDs and CDs, showing its excellent capability to immitate its ilk in the US. But this, this tax.. it's awesome! $4.30 per gigabyte! That's 10 times the price of the raw disk!

    Can you imagine disk-makers like Hitatchi and Seagate looking on and watching these old-school hitmen come in and feast on their kill? I'm sure they're a bit angry, but probably a good deal more envious.

    A tax this creative, of this size.. ahh. My hat is off. This takes a lot of balls. And more importantly, a lot of politicians in their pockets.

    Congrats to Stitching Thustoopid on their coming out event. Let the good times roll boys! Pass the cigars around!

  2. Re:The ridiculous height of the tax is untrue by _dim · · Score: 1 · on Dutch Pass iPod Tax

    > The tax on blank DVDs is something like a couple of cents.

    Nope, it's EUR 0.60 for DVD-R, and EUR 0.40 for DVD+R. Info straight from the horse's mouth:

    http://www.cedar.nl/thuiskopie/info-gebruikers.htm l#tarieven

    This is obviously the reason that almost nobody worth their salt buys CD or DVD media in the Netherlands anymore. Ordering from Belgium or Germany is usually the easiest and cheapest.

  3. Re:story seems dubious by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2, Informative · on Dutch Pass iPod Tax
    From the website of the antichrist himself. This was just added there.
    Zo ook digitale portable audiospelers en dvd-recorders met harde schijf die op dit moment onderwerp van onderhandeling zijn. De hoogte van de vergoeding wordt bepaald in een aparte onderhandelingsstichting (SONT) waar de betalingsplichtigen en de rechthebbenden gelijk zijn vertegenwoordigd. [...] Het bestuur van de SONT heeft nog geen besluit genomen over de hoogte van het tarief; de onderhandelingen zijn gaande. Berichten die suggereren dat er al enige duidelijkheid is over de hoogte van een tarief zijn onjuist.
    Translation: ...Also digital portable audioplayers and DVD recorders with an internal hard disk which are at this time subject of negotiations. The amount of the levy is being negotiated in a separate foundation (SONT), where copyright owners and subjects of the levy are equally represented. [...] At this time, the SONT committee has not reached a decision on the amount of the levy; negotiations are still in progress. Any article suggesting that there already is some indication on the proposed levy, is incorrect.
  4. The ridiculous height of the tax is untrue by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 4, Informative · on Dutch Pass iPod Tax
    While it is true that a tax of MP3-players is considered in the Netherlands, the height of the tax mentioned is simply untrue (link in Dutch).

    To quote from the link: "Het bestuur van de SONT heeft nog geen besluit genomen over de hoogte van het tarief; de onderhandelingen zijn gaande. Berichten die suggereren dat er al enige duidelijkheid is over de hoogte van een tarief zijn onjuist.", which translates as, "The management of the SONT has not decided yet on the height of the tax; that is still being negotiated. Any statements that suggest that there is any clarity on the height of the tax are false." This message is from April 2005.

    The tax on blank DVDs is something like a couple of cents. I suspect that the tax on storage space in MP3-players will probably not be much higher.

  5. Re:Levy *and* copyright infringement by matrem · · Score: 5, Informative · on Dutch Pass iPod Tax

    In the Netherlands it is legal to make extra copies of media you own, or to make a copy of a CD or DVD you borrowed from a friend, neigbor, etc. The copyright holders are compensated through a tax, in a rather obscure way. It is illegal to sell copyrighted work, or make copies and give away the copies yourself. All this is explained (in Dutch) by Stichting De Thuiskopie

    I wouldn't be surprised if the situation were the same in Denmark.

  6. Re:Sounds like a bargain! by basvdlei · · Score: 1, Interesting · on German Court Sets Copyright Tax on New PCs

    Here in the Netherlands we have a right to make a "home copy" for personal or educational use. It is because of that right we have to pay 'copyright tax' on media. I think this allso applies in Germany but of that I'm not sure.
    Stichting Thuiskopie (dutch)

  7. Re:Ah well by Beetjebrak · · Score: 1 · on DMCA, Auf Deutsch

    You can find information about that with CEDAR, the groups of people that actualy does the collecting of these 'taxes'. It has information about Stichting Thuiskopie and is established at:

    Siriusdreef 22-28
    2130KB Hoofddorp

    Good luck getting your 0,14 back though..