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FCC Complain ID#12-C00422224
Conspiracy Theory: Vincent Cerf while employed for Google argues for a 'level playing field' that ultimately helps Google escape the transportation costs of it's massive as-snooping traffic that the NSA considers a benefit to national security. Perhaps less sellable under Trump than Obama post-Snowden. Because despite what the FCC said in 10-201 about the nature of the 'level playing field' I always said to myself that I'd believe it when I saw it. And I've never seen it.
The bottom line- while I may also be able to compete by partnering with
existing cloud infrastructure services companies, am I free to compete on my own, paying the
same published rates for my data traffic on the 'general purpose technology'6 of the internet as
my neighbor?https://lwn.net/Articles/657561/
http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7522219498
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-k121024.pdf
https://www.wired.com/2013/07/google-neutrality/
http://www.seattletimes.com/business/google-accused-of-betraying-its-net-neutrality-stance/ (some facts wrong in article)
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Re:Why is this about security?
Right To Serve -- http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-k121024.pdf
This doesn't make sense to me given the timeline and media attention given to this story. I suspect there is a criminal motive that benefits Google and other large corporation's bottom line, while simultaneously making it easier for the NSA to get away with things like PRISM. Hell, even the FCC complaint number boggles my mind.
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Re:um no
Are they 'end users' when they email their friends but 'edge providers' when they switch windows to check their business metrics?
and that right there sums up why people who don't know how networking works, shouldn't write news articles about it.
In both cases in this example the user is consuming data.
And that right there sums up why people who don't understand digestion shouldn't write networking articles. As far as the cost of running the network is concerned, data is being sent and received, not consumed. That you want to fit everything into the word 'consumer's pigeon-hole shows that the advertisers have already rotted out your brain.
A better example would be once the user is hosting data locally, like a webpage... And then, in fact, they'd be required by nearly every ISP in the county to have a business account.
The author acts like he's come up with some novel argument that questions the basic foundations of the ISPs business model, but in fact, it's a question that was asked and answered over 20yrs ago. You want to host a website from your house? Get a T1.
Here however, I'll grant you have half a point. Though it is one I targeted like a LAZER-BEAM in my 2012 54 page manifesto to the FCC titledThe Right To Serve. While I was disappointed that my crusade against GoogleFiber's "any kind of server hosting prohibited" ToS didn't quite make the NYT or the WaPost, it did make the rounds in wired/huffingtonpost/forbes/mcclasky.
The fact of the matter is that business models are not immutable things, much as the corporate oligarchs would like them to be. Ask the newspapers about how fun the internet age has been for them in the competitive business arena.
The business model the ISPs want, is to literally be able to tax anyone profiting disproportionately from the data traffic they are using. If person A can make $1M via the same 3.14GB of upload data traffic and 4.2GB of download traffic, then the ISP would like $100,000 please. But the proper answer to that is to politely tell them to go fuck themselves.
"Get a T1"? In the day and age of fiber optic cables, are you fucking kidding me? Nice troll buddy.
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"The Internet of Things"
"it launched last year as its attempt to muscle in on that other flavour-of-the-month market: the so-called Internet of Things."
I had to specifically point out to the Wired.com journalist writing about my "Right To Serve" issue that he was putting the phrase "Internet of Things" into my mouth in his first draft article. The "Internet of Things" from what I can tell is the establishment dipping its toes into the wonderous waters of IPv6, but finding a way to do it without allowing the residential user to _profit in any way_ from their "internet of things". Because all profit shall be reserved for the establishment. Or so goes the party line.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/google-neutrality/
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/google-we-can-ban-servers-on-fiber-without-violating-net-neutrality/
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/google-fiber-continues-awful-isp-tradition-banning-servers
http://crossies.com/pissed.html
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/google-fiber-now-explicitly-permits-home-servers/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/01/198327/googles-call-for-open-internet.html -
Re:Common Carrier
If anyone is interested in the common carrier argument, I urge them to read the following as it relates to being able to treat your residential ISP as a 'common carrier' (so that for instance one could host their own server running an open source or commercial solution that provides an alternate to facebook messaging).
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/google-we-can-ban-servers-on-fiber-without-violating-net-neutrality/
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/google-fiber-continues-awful-isp-tradition-banning-servers
http://crossies.com/pissed.html
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/google-fiber-now-explicitly-permits-home-servers/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/01/198327/googles-call-for-open-internet.html -
Re:The insecurity right now
The insecurity is on the side of the NSA.
They wouldn't go through such hoops if we didn't have the most powerful freedom tool ever, namely the Internet.Use it properly and they shall vanish.
You are right. But the problem is that the ISPs will not allow you to use the internet properly (e.g. hosting your own data on your own server at home, thus giving it the strongest possible U.S. 4th ammendment 'papers' protection.
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/google-we-can-ban-servers-on-fiber-without-violating-net-neutrality/
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/google-fiber-continues-awful-isp-tradition-banning-servers
http://crossies.com/pissed.html
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/google-fiber-now-explicitly-permits-home-servers/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/01/198327/googles-call-for-open-internet.html -
Re:They should be much more paranoid.
My older brother is a VP-Eng at Google (maps). I can assure you that the whole thing is utterly corrupt. The day after active duty U.S. Navy Information Warfare Officer Dave Schroeder posted publicly here that he thought my GoogleFiber "Right To Serve" Manifesto[1] was "very good" and that he agreed with everything I wrote about the core net neutrality argument, my brother finally said he agreed with some part of my arguments. To this day he has never clarified which part, though still asserts that I should have gone about my complaint in "the better way", namely submitting myself subserviantly to the Google technocratic leaderships opinion. The fact of the matter is, IMHO, that being able to host server/s on your residential internet connection, and being able to expect the user/customer base of all "internet service" to have the same basic right, is a key aspect of reclaiming our informational privacy and security on the internet. No, it's not bulletproof, but it's the foundation with which to have a fighting chance. I personally wish the EFF would get some guts and go further in their call. The fact of the matter is that I am right about my Net Neutrality argument, though certainly resolved to believe that after the forthcoming verizon ruling, that is not legally likely going to be relevant. But I think to reclaim our ability to use the internet, rather than being used by it, we need to demand that hosting servers that control our own data, is something everyone ought to be able to do from home. And in order for the residential server software market to thrive, there can't be arbitrary bullshit raqueteering loopholes like Google's new "no-commercial-servers-allowed" activity. I mean, why the fuck is it ok for residential users to commercially profit on transactions with a 3rd party like ebay, but not if they independently run their own LAMP stack and accept payment by check via USPS? I mean seriously, what the fuck?!?
[1] http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf
http://www.provobuzz.com/google-fiber-now-allows-home-servers/
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/google-neutrality/
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/google-fiber-continues-awful-isp-tradition-banning-servers
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/01/198327/googles-call-for-open-internet.html -
Net neutrality
To me, it seems that providers that prohibit home servers (either by TOS or by actually blocking e.g. port 80) are in violation of FCC-10-201 (net neutrality).
This was brought up before on Slashdot http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/07/30/2322253/google-argues-against-net-neutrality with specific reference to Google Fiber's TOS prohibition of incoming ports. The complaint is described in http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf . I wish someone would pursue this against all major providers, not just Google Fiber.
There is simply no valid reason to prohibit incoming ports. This issue is not bandwidth - most home servers use far less than say streaming video. In any case if it's abused, the providers can use their existing procedures to deal with bandwidth abusers.
This is really at the heart of network neutrality. The only reason I can see for prohibiting incoming ports is to prevent individuals from competing with commercial interests that provide network services. Personally, it really PO's me that my ISP blocks ports 80 and 443. I keep my files on a home server, and although I can access them via ssh, many public wifi services (e.g. at hospitals) block every port, in and out, except 80 and 443. I can't really complain about the public wifi (well, I can complain, but they'll just tell me that it's a free courtesy they're under no obligation to provide, so if you don't like it, don't use it). So, to access my personal files, I need to use a 3rd party's commercial server (cloud or VPN) that allows port 80.
(As for the dynamic DNS, that hasn't been a serious problem for me - my ISP keeps it fixed as long as my cable modem is powered and connected, and the IP only changes when I restart the cable modem. Anyway, that is a secondary and minor problem.)
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Re:I remember this story
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/07/30/2322253/google-argues-against-net-neutrality [slashdot.org] its a dupe.
The original complaint I filed with the FCC, then the Kansas Attorney General, and then back to the FCC is here-
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf
Another slashdot echo of the EFF's take is here-
Its the same dumb points from anonymous cowards.
Ad hominem much tuppe666? My name is Douglas McClendon.
Google want to charge businesses for attaching servers to the internet...and yet this has been twisted into a Net Neutrality argument,
Here is my twist, I'll just post a paragraph from 10-201 (aka 'Net Neutrality')
FCC-10-201 Paragraph 13 (see appendix B for the entirety)
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(Under Section Heading:)
The Internet’s Openness Promotes Innovation, Investment, Competition, Free Expression, and Other National Broadband Goals
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Like electricity and the computer, the Internet is a "general purpose technology" that enables new methods of production that have a major impact on
the entire economy.(12) The Internet’s founders intentionally built a network that is open, in the sense that it has no gatekeepers limiting innovation and
communication through the network.(13) Accordingly, the Internet enables an end user to access the content and applications of her choice, without
requiring permission from broadband providers. This architecture enables innovators to create and offer new applications and services without needing
approval from any controlling entity, be it a network provider, equipment manufacturer, industry body, or government agency.(14) End users benefit
because the Internet’s openness allows new technologies to be developed and distributed by a broad range of sources, not just by the companies that
operate the network. For example, Sir Tim Berners-Lee was able to invent the World Wide Web nearly two decades after engineers developed the
Internet’s original protocols, without needing changes to those protocols or any approval from network operators.(15) Startups and small businesses
benefit because the Internet’s openness enables anyone connected to the network to reach and do business with anyone else,(16) allowing even the
smallest and most remotely located businesses to access national and global markets, and contribute to the economy through e-commerce(17) and
online advertising.(18) Because Internet openness enables widespread innovation and allows all end users and edge providers (rather than just the
significantly smaller number of broadband providers) to create and determine the success or failure of content, applications, services, and devices, it
maximizes commercial and non-commercial innovations that address key national challenges -- including improvements in health care, education, and
energy efficiency that benefit our economy and civic life.(19)http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-201A1_Rcd.pdf
by changing the definition of Net Neutrality "discriminating or charging differentially by user, content, site, platform, application, type of attached equipment, and modes of communication" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality [wikipedia.org] . I'm just shocked its not an Ars Technica...maybe they are still defending the iPhone launch.
And here, I will emphasize a quote from Vint Cerf, about what IPv6 _ought_ to enable
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the fine print
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the fine print
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Re:Blame ISPs
Can you imagine the explosion in Internet traffic if ISP customers were allowed to host servers?
Why Yes! Thank you for bringing it up in the first post. Go ahead and follow this rabbit trail if you are more interested in the situation-
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3929983&cid=44170993
I've used the fact that GoogleFiber was my first ISP choice involving IPv6 to press a new novel interpretation of NetworkNeutrality. It seems to be going somewhere. ComIntercept(FCC->Google):
"The enclosed informal complaint, dated September 1, 2012, has been filed with the Commission by Douglas McClendon against Google pursuant to section 1.41 of Comissions's Rules, 47 C.F.R.
// 1.41. Also attached is Mr. McClendon's October 24, 2012 complaint forwarded to the FCC by the Kansas Office of the Attorney General. Mr. McClendon asserts that Google's policy prohibiting use of its fixed broadband internet service (Google Fiber connection) to host any type of server violates the Open Internet Order, FCC 10-201, and the Commission's rules at 47 C.F.R. // 8.1-11.We are forwarding a copy of the informal complaint so that you may satisfy or answer the informal complaint based on a thorough review of all relevant records and other information. You should respond in writing specifically and comprehensively to all material allegations raised in the informal complaint, being sure not to include the specifics of any confidential settlement discussions.
...Your written response to the informal complaint must be filed with the Commission contact listed below by U.S. mail and e-mail by July 29, 2013. On that same day, you must mail and e-mail your response to Douglas McClendon.
The parties shall retain all records that may be relevant to the informal complaint until final Commission disposition of the informal complaint or of any formal complaint that may arise from this matter. See 47 C.F.R.
//1.812-17. (seriously, can't I and Google just depend on the NSA's backups of our records? :)Failure of any person to answer any lawful Commission inquiry is considered a misdemeanor punishable by a fine...
... ...http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_notice_of_informal_complaint.pdf [cloudsession.com]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_oct24_2012_complaint.pdf [cloudsession.com]This represents Google getting 'served' this week, my form 2000F 'informal' 53 page complaint that suggests that NetNeutrality provides protections against ISP blocking to my home servers as well as to Skype's. Google has been compelled by the government to respond to me on July 29th. GoogleFiber's 'evil' terms of service prohibit hosting any kind of server without prior written permission against your residential connection. And zero transparency for any alternate server-allowed plan rates, or what kinds of reasons they might use to disallow a requested written permission (which is laughable as the FCC 10-201 NetNeutrality document goes out of it's way to laud Tim Berner Lee's invention of the web atop tcp/ip, specifically, without having to have gotten any permission from any government or network provider)
I forwarded the documents to schneier@schneier.com and requested any insight he might have into the matter. I got an email response (theoretically perhaps spoofed) that read "Thanks.\n\nGood Luck."
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Re:Blame ISPs
Can you imagine the explosion in Internet traffic if ISP customers were allowed to host servers?
Why Yes! Thank you for bringing it up in the first post. Go ahead and follow this rabbit trail if you are more interested in the situation-
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3929983&cid=44170993
I've used the fact that GoogleFiber was my first ISP choice involving IPv6 to press a new novel interpretation of NetworkNeutrality. It seems to be going somewhere. ComIntercept(FCC->Google):
"The enclosed informal complaint, dated September 1, 2012, has been filed with the Commission by Douglas McClendon against Google pursuant to section 1.41 of Comissions's Rules, 47 C.F.R.
// 1.41. Also attached is Mr. McClendon's October 24, 2012 complaint forwarded to the FCC by the Kansas Office of the Attorney General. Mr. McClendon asserts that Google's policy prohibiting use of its fixed broadband internet service (Google Fiber connection) to host any type of server violates the Open Internet Order, FCC 10-201, and the Commission's rules at 47 C.F.R. // 8.1-11.We are forwarding a copy of the informal complaint so that you may satisfy or answer the informal complaint based on a thorough review of all relevant records and other information. You should respond in writing specifically and comprehensively to all material allegations raised in the informal complaint, being sure not to include the specifics of any confidential settlement discussions.
...Your written response to the informal complaint must be filed with the Commission contact listed below by U.S. mail and e-mail by July 29, 2013. On that same day, you must mail and e-mail your response to Douglas McClendon.
The parties shall retain all records that may be relevant to the informal complaint until final Commission disposition of the informal complaint or of any formal complaint that may arise from this matter. See 47 C.F.R.
//1.812-17. (seriously, can't I and Google just depend on the NSA's backups of our records? :)Failure of any person to answer any lawful Commission inquiry is considered a misdemeanor punishable by a fine...
... ...http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_notice_of_informal_complaint.pdf [cloudsession.com]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_oct24_2012_complaint.pdf [cloudsession.com]This represents Google getting 'served' this week, my form 2000F 'informal' 53 page complaint that suggests that NetNeutrality provides protections against ISP blocking to my home servers as well as to Skype's. Google has been compelled by the government to respond to me on July 29th. GoogleFiber's 'evil' terms of service prohibit hosting any kind of server without prior written permission against your residential connection. And zero transparency for any alternate server-allowed plan rates, or what kinds of reasons they might use to disallow a requested written permission (which is laughable as the FCC 10-201 NetNeutrality document goes out of it's way to laud Tim Berner Lee's invention of the web atop tcp/ip, specifically, without having to have gotten any permission from any government or network provider)
I forwarded the documents to schneier@schneier.com and requested any insight he might have into the matter. I got an email response (theoretically perhaps spoofed) that read "Thanks.\n\nGood Luck."
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Re:As if
That has to be the most disturbingly accurate and *apropos* analogy I have heard yet...
There, FTFY. Given that what we've learned is that the powers that be will consider it our parents fault if they happened to have their laptop/gameconsole/mobilephone's cameras (err. 'sensors') aimed at the bed that night. Because they collect it by default because that might help national security. And they keep it forever. In a world of big brother, the only way to go forward is with little brother tactics...
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf
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"Right To Serve" (with your home ISP) related??
It just looks like the gloves came off with the whole Snowden affair. They now know they can get away with pretty much anything
To be more of an optimist- keep in mind that "They" is a lot of people. Some of them are helping trample human rights. Many of them however just need to be shown an effective way to fight back against the organized criminal snoops. I know this will sound very tinfoil hattish, but hey, it's the snow crash season I think, so, I'll just spam about how I think my current 53-page manifesto that just got served to Google(Fiber) via the FCC(and Kansas Attorney General, and with schneier@schneier.com wishing my cause "Good Luck.")...
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3929983&cid=44170993
I've used the fact that GoogleFiber was my first ISP choice involving IPv6 to press a new novel interpretation of NetworkNeutrality. It seems to be going somewhere. ComIntercept(FCC->Google):
"The enclosed informal complaint, dated September 1, 2012, has been filed with the Commission by Douglas McClendon against Google pursuant to section 1.41 of Comissions's Rules, 47 C.F.R.
// 1.41. Also attached is Mr. McClendon's October 24, 2012 complaint forwarded to the FCC by the Kansas Office of the Attorney General. Mr. McClendon asserts that Google's policy prohibiting use of its fixed broadband internet service (Google Fiber connection) to host any type of server violates the Open Internet Order, FCC 10-201, and the Commission's rules at 47 C.F.R. // 8.1-11.We are forwarding a copy of the informal complaint so that you may satisfy or answer the informal complaint based on a thorough review of all relevant records and other information. You should respond in writing specifically and comprehensively to all material allegations raised in the informal complaint, being sure not to include the specifics of any confidential settlement discussions.
...Your written response to the informal complaint must be filed with the Commission contact listed below by U.S. mail and e-mail by July 29, 2013. On that same day, you must mail and e-mail your response to Douglas McClendon.
The parties shall retain all records that may be relevant to the informal complaint until final Commission disposition of the informal complaint or of any formal complaint that may arise from this matter. See 47 C.F.R.
//1.812-17. (seriously, can't I and Google just depend on the NSA's backups of our records? :)Failure of any person to answer any lawful Commission inquiry is considered a misdemeanor punishable by a fine...
... ...http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_notice_of_informal_complaint.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_oct24_2012_complaint.pdfThis represents Google getting 'served' this week, my form 2000F 'informal' 53 page complaint that suggests that NetNeutrality provides protections against ISP blocking to my home servers as well as to Skype's. Google has been compelled by the government to respond to me on July 29th. GoogleFiber's 'evil' terms of service prohibit hosting any kind of server without prior written permission against your residential connection. And zero transparency for any alternate server-allowed plan rates, or what kinds of reasons they might use to disallow a requested written permission (which is laughable as the FCC 10-201 NetNeutrality document goes out of it's way to laud Tim Berner Lee's invention of the web atop tcp/ip, specifically, without having to have gotten any permission from any government or network provider)
I forwarded the documents to schneier@schneier.com and requested any insight he might have into the matter. I got an email response (theoretically perhaps spoofed) that read "Thanks.\n\nGood Luck."
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"Right To Serve" (with your home ISP) related??
It just looks like the gloves came off with the whole Snowden affair. They now know they can get away with pretty much anything
To be more of an optimist- keep in mind that "They" is a lot of people. Some of them are helping trample human rights. Many of them however just need to be shown an effective way to fight back against the organized criminal snoops. I know this will sound very tinfoil hattish, but hey, it's the snow crash season I think, so, I'll just spam about how I think my current 53-page manifesto that just got served to Google(Fiber) via the FCC(and Kansas Attorney General, and with schneier@schneier.com wishing my cause "Good Luck.")...
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3929983&cid=44170993
I've used the fact that GoogleFiber was my first ISP choice involving IPv6 to press a new novel interpretation of NetworkNeutrality. It seems to be going somewhere. ComIntercept(FCC->Google):
"The enclosed informal complaint, dated September 1, 2012, has been filed with the Commission by Douglas McClendon against Google pursuant to section 1.41 of Comissions's Rules, 47 C.F.R.
// 1.41. Also attached is Mr. McClendon's October 24, 2012 complaint forwarded to the FCC by the Kansas Office of the Attorney General. Mr. McClendon asserts that Google's policy prohibiting use of its fixed broadband internet service (Google Fiber connection) to host any type of server violates the Open Internet Order, FCC 10-201, and the Commission's rules at 47 C.F.R. // 8.1-11.We are forwarding a copy of the informal complaint so that you may satisfy or answer the informal complaint based on a thorough review of all relevant records and other information. You should respond in writing specifically and comprehensively to all material allegations raised in the informal complaint, being sure not to include the specifics of any confidential settlement discussions.
...Your written response to the informal complaint must be filed with the Commission contact listed below by U.S. mail and e-mail by July 29, 2013. On that same day, you must mail and e-mail your response to Douglas McClendon.
The parties shall retain all records that may be relevant to the informal complaint until final Commission disposition of the informal complaint or of any formal complaint that may arise from this matter. See 47 C.F.R.
//1.812-17. (seriously, can't I and Google just depend on the NSA's backups of our records? :)Failure of any person to answer any lawful Commission inquiry is considered a misdemeanor punishable by a fine...
... ...http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_notice_of_informal_complaint.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_oct24_2012_complaint.pdfThis represents Google getting 'served' this week, my form 2000F 'informal' 53 page complaint that suggests that NetNeutrality provides protections against ISP blocking to my home servers as well as to Skype's. Google has been compelled by the government to respond to me on July 29th. GoogleFiber's 'evil' terms of service prohibit hosting any kind of server without prior written permission against your residential connection. And zero transparency for any alternate server-allowed plan rates, or what kinds of reasons they might use to disallow a requested written permission (which is laughable as the FCC 10-201 NetNeutrality document goes out of it's way to laud Tim Berner Lee's invention of the web atop tcp/ip, specifically, without having to have gotten any permission from any government or network provider)
I forwarded the documents to schneier@schneier.com and requested any insight he might have into the matter. I got an email response (theoretically perhaps spoofed) that read "Thanks.\n\nGood Luck."
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"Right To Serve" might help
I've used the fact that GoogleFiber was my first ISP choice involving IPv6 to press a new novel interpretation of NetworkNeutrality. It seems to be going somewhere. ComIntercept(FCC->Google):
"The enclosed informal complaint, dated September 1, 2012, has been filed with the Commission by Douglas McClendon against Google pursuant to section 1.41 of Comissions's Rules, 47 C.F.R.
// 1.41. Also attached is Mr. McClendon's October 24, 2012 complaint forwarded to the FCC by the Kansas Office of the Attorney General. Mr. McClendon asserts that Google's policy prohibiting use of its fixed broadband internet service (Google Fiber connection) to host any type of server violates the Open Internet Order, FCC 10-201, and the Commission's rules at 47 C.F.R. // 8.1-11.We are forwarding a copy of the informal complaint so that you may satisfy or answer the informal complaint based on a thorough review of all relevant records and other information. You should respond in writing specifically and comprehensively to all material allegations raised in the informal complaint, being sure not to include the specifics of any confidential settlement discussions.
...Your written response to the informal complaint must be filed with the Commission contact listed below by U.S. mail and e-mail by July 29, 2013. On that same day, you must mail and e-mail your response to Douglas McClendon.
The parties shall retain all records that may be relevant to the informal complaint until final Commission disposition of the informal complaint or of any formal complaint that may arise from this matter. See 47 C.F.R.
//1.812-17. (seriously, can't I and Google just depend on the NSA's backups of our records? :)Failure of any person to answer any lawful Commission inquiry is considered a misdemeanor punishable by a fine...
... ...http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_notice_of_informal_complaint.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_oct24_2012_complaint.pdfThis represents Google getting 'served' this week, my form 2000F 'informal' 53 page complaint that suggests that NetNeutrality provides protections against ISP blocking to my home servers as well as to Skype's. Google has been compelled by the government to respond to me on July 29th. GoogleFiber's 'evil' terms of service prohibit hosting any kind of server without prior written permission against your residential connection. And zero transparency for any alternate server-allowed plan rates, or what kinds of reasons they might use to disallow a requested written permission (which is laughable as the FCC 10-201 NetNeutrality document goes out of it's way to laud Tim Berner Lee's invention of the web atop tcp/ip, specifically, without having to have gotten any permission from any government or network provider)
I forwarded the documents to schneier@schneier.com and requested any insight he might have into the matter. I got an email response (theoretically perhaps spoofed) that read "Thanks.\n\nGood Luck."
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"Right To Serve" might help
I've used the fact that GoogleFiber was my first ISP choice involving IPv6 to press a new novel interpretation of NetworkNeutrality. It seems to be going somewhere. ComIntercept(FCC->Google):
"The enclosed informal complaint, dated September 1, 2012, has been filed with the Commission by Douglas McClendon against Google pursuant to section 1.41 of Comissions's Rules, 47 C.F.R.
// 1.41. Also attached is Mr. McClendon's October 24, 2012 complaint forwarded to the FCC by the Kansas Office of the Attorney General. Mr. McClendon asserts that Google's policy prohibiting use of its fixed broadband internet service (Google Fiber connection) to host any type of server violates the Open Internet Order, FCC 10-201, and the Commission's rules at 47 C.F.R. // 8.1-11.We are forwarding a copy of the informal complaint so that you may satisfy or answer the informal complaint based on a thorough review of all relevant records and other information. You should respond in writing specifically and comprehensively to all material allegations raised in the informal complaint, being sure not to include the specifics of any confidential settlement discussions.
...Your written response to the informal complaint must be filed with the Commission contact listed below by U.S. mail and e-mail by July 29, 2013. On that same day, you must mail and e-mail your response to Douglas McClendon.
The parties shall retain all records that may be relevant to the informal complaint until final Commission disposition of the informal complaint or of any formal complaint that may arise from this matter. See 47 C.F.R.
//1.812-17. (seriously, can't I and Google just depend on the NSA's backups of our records? :)Failure of any person to answer any lawful Commission inquiry is considered a misdemeanor punishable by a fine...
... ...http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_notice_of_informal_complaint.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_oct24_2012_complaint.pdfThis represents Google getting 'served' this week, my form 2000F 'informal' 53 page complaint that suggests that NetNeutrality provides protections against ISP blocking to my home servers as well as to Skype's. Google has been compelled by the government to respond to me on July 29th. GoogleFiber's 'evil' terms of service prohibit hosting any kind of server without prior written permission against your residential connection. And zero transparency for any alternate server-allowed plan rates, or what kinds of reasons they might use to disallow a requested written permission (which is laughable as the FCC 10-201 NetNeutrality document goes out of it's way to laud Tim Berner Lee's invention of the web atop tcp/ip, specifically, without having to have gotten any permission from any government or network provider)
I forwarded the documents to schneier@schneier.com and requested any insight he might have into the matter. I got an email response (theoretically perhaps spoofed) that read "Thanks.\n\nGood Luck."
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Re:Don't trust 'em
I have serious doubts in ANY new network tech not having backdoors of some sort.
Oh, come on. This is a network protocol. Sure, protocols *can* have flaws, but it's a very long stretch from being forced to run an unknown binary. Just implement it on your own if you're paranoid enough.
The problem with trying to implement a new protocol over tcp/ip (the internet) like Tim Berners-Lee did with the web, is that the mythical 'Open Internet' has been degraded. QUIC and webRTC reek to me of some orwellian attempt to make the lies about home servers being less worthy of net-neutrality protections than skype's servers make sense. I.e. allowing 'client to client' file transfers and video chats. All this is because of the conspiracy to deprive residential internet users the power to serve. Now, don't get me wrong, the things webRTC, and I'm guessing QUIC work around (legacy nat traversal when no simple 'open internet' directly routable path is available) are useful. But it is disingenous to look at QUIC without also looking at the fact that when Google entered the residential ISP business, they actually pushed the server persecution further, with a blanket 'prohibited from hosting any kind of server' terms of service language.
Earlier this week the FCC finally after 9 months 'served' my NetNeutrality (2000F) complaint against Google, along with the longer 53 page manifesto that now reached google via the FCC via the Kansas Attorney General('s office). Yesterday after pinging schneier@schneier.com for any insight to prepare for google's July 29th compelled response, he (or someone spoofing him) replied- "Thanks.\n\nGood Luck.".
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_notice_of_informal_complaint.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3643919&cid=43438341 (score 5 comment about the situation, with further links) -
Re:Don't trust 'em
I have serious doubts in ANY new network tech not having backdoors of some sort.
Oh, come on. This is a network protocol. Sure, protocols *can* have flaws, but it's a very long stretch from being forced to run an unknown binary. Just implement it on your own if you're paranoid enough.
The problem with trying to implement a new protocol over tcp/ip (the internet) like Tim Berners-Lee did with the web, is that the mythical 'Open Internet' has been degraded. QUIC and webRTC reek to me of some orwellian attempt to make the lies about home servers being less worthy of net-neutrality protections than skype's servers make sense. I.e. allowing 'client to client' file transfers and video chats. All this is because of the conspiracy to deprive residential internet users the power to serve. Now, don't get me wrong, the things webRTC, and I'm guessing QUIC work around (legacy nat traversal when no simple 'open internet' directly routable path is available) are useful. But it is disingenous to look at QUIC without also looking at the fact that when Google entered the residential ISP business, they actually pushed the server persecution further, with a blanket 'prohibited from hosting any kind of server' terms of service language.
Earlier this week the FCC finally after 9 months 'served' my NetNeutrality (2000F) complaint against Google, along with the longer 53 page manifesto that now reached google via the FCC via the Kansas Attorney General('s office). Yesterday after pinging schneier@schneier.com for any insight to prepare for google's July 29th compelled response, he (or someone spoofing him) replied- "Thanks.\n\nGood Luck.".
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/mcclendon_notice_of_informal_complaint.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3643919&cid=43438341 (score 5 comment about the situation, with further links) -
unfiltered my ass
deliver their symmetric gigabit uncapped, unfiltered
Please reconcile that deception with these terms of service:
(Note, after 9 months of being lied to and ignored by the FCC, this complaint will supposedly be "served" to google on Monday, according to Rosemary McHenry at the FCC's Enforcement Beaureau)
--- FCC NetNeutrality 2000F Complaint REF# 12-C00422224 ---
Google's current Terms Of Service[1] for their fixed broadband internet
service being deployed initially here in Kansas City, Kansas, contain
this text-"You agree not to misuse the Services. This includes but is not limited
to using the Services for purposes that are illegal, are improper,
infringe the rights of others, or adversely impact others enjoyment of
the Services. A list of examples of prohibited activities appears here. "where 'here' is a hyperlink[2] to a page including this text-
"Unless you have a written agreement with Google Fiber permitting you do
so, you should not host any type of server using your Google Fiber
connection"In my professional opinion as a graduate in Computer Engineering from
the University of Kansas (and incidentally brother of a google VP) I
believe these terms of service are in violation of FCC-10-201.[1] http://fiber.google.com/legal/terms.html [google.com]
[2]
http://support.google.com/fiber/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2659981&topic=2440874&ctx=topic [google.com]--- (end of form 2000F complaint text)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3106555&cid=41288357
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
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Re:land of the free...
I currently have an outstanding 53 page complaint with the FCC about how GoogleFiber's ISP terms of services seem disturbingly like a network-neutrality-hypocrisy-of-the-first-order attempt to prevent ordinary citizens from being able to deploy home-hosted services that are functional competitors to gmail. But Dave Schroeder, the Navy Information Warfare Officer who posts here, is still naive enough to think that this issue isn't about taking citizens servers and the empowerment that they manifest away from them.
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt -
Re:land of the free...
I currently have an outstanding 53 page complaint with the FCC about how GoogleFiber's ISP terms of services seem disturbingly like a network-neutrality-hypocrisy-of-the-first-order attempt to prevent ordinary citizens from being able to deploy home-hosted services that are functional competitors to gmail. But Dave Schroeder, the Navy Information Warfare Officer who posts here, is still naive enough to think that this issue isn't about taking citizens servers and the empowerment that they manifest away from them.
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt -
Re:Net neutrality
I'm not sure a high percentage of Obama's supporters, or americans in general, know what net neutrality is. I don't think most videogame enthusiasts know how net neutrality is important to their future lives. I -know- most netflix users don't.
In my book, the current most illuminating issue is my quixotic battle with Google Fiber over IPv6 based home servers. I think this is a core aspect of "Net Neutrality" that videogame enthusiasts should help spread the word about. The fact is, that the FCC's 2010 "Report and Order Preserving The Open Internet" (FCC10-201), actually, if read technically, does apply to home videogame servers, as well as all of Google and other established player's servers. But Google and the established players know there is a crapload of their existing cloud business turf that they need to protect against the wave of home serving that IPv6 can finally enable.
Google and the FCC (and the Kansas Attorney General) have ignored my complaint (FCC REF#12-C000422224) for 6 months now, and somehow hearing this news does not give me hope for my cause in the short term. Which is why I'm focusing my efforts on information warfare to educate people about how the current manor in which net neutrality is being enforced, primarily only helps hypocrites on the issue like Google. Larry Page, if the slashdot AC's story is to be believed[1], is an especially open hypocrite on this issue (since allegedly, he is the one in charge).
[1] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3106555&cid=41288357
full saga/manifesto- http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf (lulu.com/cx1 preview feature has the submitted 53 page version)
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no innovation without server hosting allowed
I recently (last year) filed a complaint (ref#12-C000422224-1) with the FCC about Google Fiber's "no server hosting allowed of any kind" terms of service. With those kinds of EVIL ToS, you just won't see the kind of innovation and utilization of gigabit fiber service that is possible and that would cause a great increase in demand. Somehow, even though I got the local vocal U.S. Navy Information Warefare Officer who posts here (Dave Shroeder) to publicly call my 53 page anti-google manifesto 'good' and agree with it's core network neutrality argument, I have been pretty much completely ignored by both Google and the FCC. Hell, there was even an AC leak from a google all hands meeting that said Google's CEO was "really annoyed with the no server hosting clause" and "repeatedly needled" the CFO about it, who said there was "no intent to enforce, except against crazy datacenter style abuse". Personally I think that's all bullshit part of a conspiracy to deny residental citizen's the ability to compete with google and other established player's servers and services... Finally a couple weeks ago on valentine's day, 2 days after pinging the FCC again, and 1 day after being pinged by another asshole google recruiter (williamwest@google.com), the FCC finally escalated my complaint. Time will tell...
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3106555&cid=41288357
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf -
Re:Does SaaS change everything?
Now that most interesting new software is delivered to us over the web or via other network protocols, does this marginalize the contributions of open source and free software? For example Google, Amazon, and Facebook all have had some involvement with open source software as both users and contributors, but for the most part their technology stacks above the OS level (Linux) are under lock and key.
This sounds like a good question to me. Trying to hype my own little unpopular cause of the moment, I'd add the obvious note that what is required for open source (top to bottom) solutions to compete with the Gang Of Four (Google/Amazon/Facebook/...) is the 'Right To Serve'. I.e. my legal theory all end users of the internet in the US, due to Network Neutrality (FCC-10-201, subparagraph13), have the right to host and run servers connected to their residential fixed broadband service. Any help or on the record comments that I can get from noteworthy thinkers will be greatly appreciated. Mr. Vint Cerf of Google claimed last week to be investigating the matter internally at Google. Mr Page of Google apparently, from an AC leak on slashdot is also "very annoyed with the no servers clause" of Google Fiber's (their new ISP to Kansas City) terms of service.
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdfhttp://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
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Re:Does SaaS change everything?
Now that most interesting new software is delivered to us over the web or via other network protocols, does this marginalize the contributions of open source and free software? For example Google, Amazon, and Facebook all have had some involvement with open source software as both users and contributors, but for the most part their technology stacks above the OS level (Linux) are under lock and key.
This sounds like a good question to me. Trying to hype my own little unpopular cause of the moment, I'd add the obvious note that what is required for open source (top to bottom) solutions to compete with the Gang Of Four (Google/Amazon/Facebook/...) is the 'Right To Serve'. I.e. my legal theory all end users of the internet in the US, due to Network Neutrality (FCC-10-201, subparagraph13), have the right to host and run servers connected to their residential fixed broadband service. Any help or on the record comments that I can get from noteworthy thinkers will be greatly appreciated. Mr. Vint Cerf of Google claimed last week to be investigating the matter internally at Google. Mr Page of Google apparently, from an AC leak on slashdot is also "very annoyed with the no servers clause" of Google Fiber's (their new ISP to Kansas City) terms of service.
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdfhttp://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745 -
Re:Does SaaS change everything?
Now that most interesting new software is delivered to us over the web or via other network protocols, does this marginalize the contributions of open source and free software? For example Google, Amazon, and Facebook all have had some involvement with open source software as both users and contributors, but for the most part their technology stacks above the OS level (Linux) are under lock and key.
This sounds like a good question to me. Trying to hype my own little unpopular cause of the moment, I'd add the obvious note that what is required for open source (top to bottom) solutions to compete with the Gang Of Four (Google/Amazon/Facebook/...) is the 'Right To Serve'. I.e. my legal theory all end users of the internet in the US, due to Network Neutrality (FCC-10-201, subparagraph13), have the right to host and run servers connected to their residential fixed broadband service. Any help or on the record comments that I can get from noteworthy thinkers will be greatly appreciated. Mr. Vint Cerf of Google claimed last week to be investigating the matter internally at Google. Mr Page of Google apparently, from an AC leak on slashdot is also "very annoyed with the no servers clause" of Google Fiber's (their new ISP to Kansas City) terms of service.
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdfhttp://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745 -
Do(/Should) I have a 'Right To Serve' on the 'Net?
I've recently been championing an interpretation of Network Neutrality which assumes that all ISP customers (of all service tiers) have the right to host and run servers from their connections (presuming IPv6 environment, ignoring IPv4 address scarcity case). I apparently even got Dave Schroeder, someone who publicly identifies themselves in slashdot comments as a Navy Information Warfare Officer to give high praise[1] to a draft of my manifesto[2], which, with his help (getting an email address) has led it to the inbox of one Mr. Vint Cerf who is now reading it and investigating further (unless someone impersonated him via insecure email). Anyway, I think from my manifesto it is clear that I likely share some visions with the FreedomBox project, which I suspect is just as effectively dependent on a 'Right To Serve' landscape/net-ground-rules as I am rallying for.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf -
Do(/Should) I have a 'Right To Serve' on the 'Net?
I've recently been championing an interpretation of Network Neutrality which assumes that all ISP customers (of all service tiers) have the right to host and run servers from their connections (presuming IPv6 environment, ignoring IPv4 address scarcity case). I apparently even got Dave Schroeder, someone who publicly identifies themselves in slashdot comments as a Navy Information Warfare Officer to give high praise[1] to a draft of my manifesto[2], which, with his help (getting an email address) has led it to the inbox of one Mr. Vint Cerf who is now reading it and investigating further (unless someone impersonated him via insecure email). Anyway, I think from my manifesto it is clear that I likely share some visions with the FreedomBox project, which I suspect is just as effectively dependent on a 'Right To Serve' landscape/net-ground-rules as I am rallying for.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf -
Do(/Should) I have a 'Right To Serve' on the 'Net?
I've recently been championing an interpretation of Network Neutrality which assumes that all ISP customers (of all service tiers) have the right to host and run servers from their connections (presuming IPv6 environment, ignoring IPv4 address scarcity case). I apparently even got Dave Schroeder, someone who publicly identifies themselves in slashdot comments as a Navy Information Warfare Officer to give high praise[1] to a draft of my manifesto[2], which, with his help (getting an email address) has led it to the inbox of one Mr. Vint Cerf who is now reading it and investigating further (unless someone impersonated him via insecure email). Anyway, I think from my manifesto it is clear that I likely share some visions with the FreedomBox project, which I suspect is just as effectively dependent on a 'Right To Serve' landscape/net-ground-rules as I am rallying for.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf -
the "Right To Serve"?
A luxury or a human right. What there isn't a middle ground here?
Yes, they asked a leading question based on a false dichotomy and got a stupid answer. Internet access is a utility, like electricity or clean water. Like those things, the more people have access to it, the better off they will be. However, equating utilities with the likes of freedom of speech and freedom from slavery is a slap in the face of anyone who has struggled for those true human rights.
I respectfully disagree. Without utilities like the information superhighway, or the actual highway, or clean water, things like 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom from slavery' are almost meaningless. I'm reminded of the scene in the movie 'The Matrix' where Neo first encounters 'supernatural' physics. After Neo demands his 'right to a phone call', agent Smith wryly states - "What good is a phone call, if you are unable to speak" (as Neo's lips become sealed shut due to the Matrix's master's control over 'reality'.
Of course my own delusionality is that this slashdot article is a Navy psy-op architected by Information Warfare Officers[1] such as Dave Shcroeder who recently gave high praise to my "Right To Serve" network neutrality manifesto, as well as Vint Cerf's email address to help me cut to the heart of the issue. From my initial ack, Mr. Cerf is currently reading my draft[2] and investigating further.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.txt -
the "Right To Serve"?
A luxury or a human right. What there isn't a middle ground here?
Yes, they asked a leading question based on a false dichotomy and got a stupid answer. Internet access is a utility, like electricity or clean water. Like those things, the more people have access to it, the better off they will be. However, equating utilities with the likes of freedom of speech and freedom from slavery is a slap in the face of anyone who has struggled for those true human rights.
I respectfully disagree. Without utilities like the information superhighway, or the actual highway, or clean water, things like 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom from slavery' are almost meaningless. I'm reminded of the scene in the movie 'The Matrix' where Neo first encounters 'supernatural' physics. After Neo demands his 'right to a phone call', agent Smith wryly states - "What good is a phone call, if you are unable to speak" (as Neo's lips become sealed shut due to the Matrix's master's control over 'reality'.
Of course my own delusionality is that this slashdot article is a Navy psy-op architected by Information Warfare Officers[1] such as Dave Shcroeder who recently gave high praise to my "Right To Serve" network neutrality manifesto, as well as Vint Cerf's email address to help me cut to the heart of the issue. From my initial ack, Mr. Cerf is currently reading my draft[2] and investigating further.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.txt -
the "Right To Serve"?
A luxury or a human right. What there isn't a middle ground here?
Yes, they asked a leading question based on a false dichotomy and got a stupid answer. Internet access is a utility, like electricity or clean water. Like those things, the more people have access to it, the better off they will be. However, equating utilities with the likes of freedom of speech and freedom from slavery is a slap in the face of anyone who has struggled for those true human rights.
I respectfully disagree. Without utilities like the information superhighway, or the actual highway, or clean water, things like 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom from slavery' are almost meaningless. I'm reminded of the scene in the movie 'The Matrix' where Neo first encounters 'supernatural' physics. After Neo demands his 'right to a phone call', agent Smith wryly states - "What good is a phone call, if you are unable to speak" (as Neo's lips become sealed shut due to the Matrix's master's control over 'reality'.
Of course my own delusionality is that this slashdot article is a Navy psy-op architected by Information Warfare Officers[1] such as Dave Shcroeder who recently gave high praise to my "Right To Serve" network neutrality manifesto, as well as Vint Cerf's email address to help me cut to the heart of the issue. From my initial ack, Mr. Cerf is currently reading my draft[2] and investigating further.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.txt -
the "Right To Serve"?
A luxury or a human right. What there isn't a middle ground here?
Yes, they asked a leading question based on a false dichotomy and got a stupid answer. Internet access is a utility, like electricity or clean water. Like those things, the more people have access to it, the better off they will be. However, equating utilities with the likes of freedom of speech and freedom from slavery is a slap in the face of anyone who has struggled for those true human rights.
I respectfully disagree. Without utilities like the information superhighway, or the actual highway, or clean water, things like 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom from slavery' are almost meaningless. I'm reminded of the scene in the movie 'The Matrix' where Neo first encounters 'supernatural' physics. After Neo demands his 'right to a phone call', agent Smith wryly states - "What good is a phone call, if you are unable to speak" (as Neo's lips become sealed shut due to the Matrix's master's control over 'reality'.
Of course my own delusionality is that this slashdot article is a Navy psy-op architected by Information Warfare Officers[1] such as Dave Shcroeder who recently gave high praise to my "Right To Serve" network neutrality manifesto, as well as Vint Cerf's email address to help me cut to the heart of the issue. From my initial ack, Mr. Cerf is currently reading my draft[2] and investigating further.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf
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Re:Closed Source.
If you trust closed source security software... good luck.
Indeed. After Dave Schroeder, a Navy Information Warfare Officer[1], recently gave me Vint Cerf's email address, I posited in a 35 page manifesto[2] that ssh + IPv6 + gstreamer would make a good open source encrypted video network phone solution. Of course I haven't actually tried it, and no doubt the performance would initially suck. But I imagine a week of tuning parameters and you'd have something usable (when need dictates). And in a year if it caught on, I'm sure the performance would probably become excellent. Of course, it kind of helps to have a 'network neutral'(my definition as per manifesto) broadband connection and an IPv6 'server' process listening on your device for incoming connection requests (a.k.a. phone calls). In any event, interesting to see this slashdot article a couple days later.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.txt -
Re:Closed Source.
If you trust closed source security software... good luck.
Indeed. After Dave Schroeder, a Navy Information Warfare Officer[1], recently gave me Vint Cerf's email address, I posited in a 35 page manifesto[2] that ssh + IPv6 + gstreamer would make a good open source encrypted video network phone solution. Of course I haven't actually tried it, and no doubt the performance would initially suck. But I imagine a week of tuning parameters and you'd have something usable (when need dictates). And in a year if it caught on, I'm sure the performance would probably become excellent. Of course, it kind of helps to have a 'network neutral'(my definition as per manifesto) broadband connection and an IPv6 'server' process listening on your device for incoming connection requests (a.k.a. phone calls). In any event, interesting to see this slashdot article a couple days later.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.txt -
Re:Closed Source.
If you trust closed source security software... good luck.
Indeed. After Dave Schroeder, a Navy Information Warfare Officer[1], recently gave me Vint Cerf's email address, I posited in a 35 page manifesto[2] that ssh + IPv6 + gstreamer would make a good open source encrypted video network phone solution. Of course I haven't actually tried it, and no doubt the performance would initially suck. But I imagine a week of tuning parameters and you'd have something usable (when need dictates). And in a year if it caught on, I'm sure the performance would probably become excellent. Of course, it kind of helps to have a 'network neutral'(my definition as per manifesto) broadband connection and an IPv6 'server' process listening on your device for incoming connection requests (a.k.a. phone calls). In any event, interesting to see this slashdot article a couple days later.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.txt -
Re:Closed Source.
If you trust closed source security software... good luck.
Indeed. After Dave Schroeder, a Navy Information Warfare Officer[1], recently gave me Vint Cerf's email address, I posited in a 35 page manifesto[2] that ssh + IPv6 + gstreamer would make a good open source encrypted video network phone solution. Of course I haven't actually tried it, and no doubt the performance would initially suck. But I imagine a week of tuning parameters and you'd have something usable (when need dictates). And in a year if it caught on, I'm sure the performance would probably become excellent. Of course, it kind of helps to have a 'network neutral'(my definition as per manifesto) broadband connection and an IPv6 'server' process listening on your device for incoming connection requests (a.k.a. phone calls). In any event, interesting to see this slashdot article a couple days later.
[1]
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41516877
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3156485&cid=41530745[2]
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.txt
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf
http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.txt -
Re:That's one problem with cyber
ok, you trolled me into reading that first page of that one article, and then replying when drunk and stoned. So I read that, particularly the last lines of the page. As you seem to be someone doing a good job of portraying themselves as a rational actor- How do _you_ think the issue should come down on whether or not it is the civilians or the military that should have the crown of control over the internet? You make some legitimate references to people who too easily dismiss the foreign threat in the name of fearing their own government. How do you personally come down on the issue of whether or not the tech for actually secure communications belonging in the hands of all civilians or not? Should ssh be mandatorily backdoored as the FBI is currently requesting Google and Facebook to fall in line with? Is that your assessment of the best path forward?
-dmc
fyi, my manifesto is located here- (work in progress)- http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121001.pdf