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The irony of you posting an image from crooksandliars is demonstrated by linking to an actual gun manufacturer that builds and sells AR15 models: http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Ri...

I don't see a scope, a tripod, a bipod, a drum magazine..

I guess you also want to ban the sale of toyota pick-up trucks based on this image: http://www.g2mil.com/toyota-gu...

After all, nothing says "personal transportation" like a 23mm anti-air cannon.

May I suggest:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/
http://www.colt.com/
http://www.remington.com/
http://www.glock.com/
http://www.sigsauer.com/ (personal favorite!)
http://www.hk-usa.com/
http://www.uzi.com/

First, Firethorn, I take it you've never been in combat nor experienced any "live fire" situations?

Nope, have you? I consider myself lucky to have avoided that so far. Still, it's been a distinct possibility several times.

Nor do you appear to be experienced with assault rifles and other weaponry.

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I'm not a high-speed low drag individual, but I'm not unexperienced.

With the latest Sig automatic rifle I could take out most of a crowded football stadium in under five minutes - a slight exaggeration, but only slight!
Are you talking about this rifle?

Still, Slight exaggeration? Surely not! It's a gross exaggeration! Unless you're talking about a non-college, non-professional stadium, occupancy for my example football stadium is 81,067. A standard 5.56 magazine is 30 rounds. I own a AR-15, and have a number of 30 round magazines. The rifle, combined with 10 magazines(300 rounds total) is fairly heavy. I would be able to carry substantially more, true, but I'd be encumbered carrying that much and not moving very quickly. After all, a loaded magazine weighs .45 kg. A hundred loaded magazines would be 100 pounds to carry. That gives me 3000 rounds. I consider 300 rounds to be a decent range trip. 3k rounds would also cost around a thouand dollars, buying cheap.

Even carrying a hundred pounds of ammo, and killing somebody with each shot, you'd only get 3.7% of the stadium goers. More realistically, they'd trample more of each other trying to flee than what you'd kill.

Besides, talking about automatic rifles is totally besides the point when we're talking about a shooter using semi-automatic handguns with 15 round magazines. One of them a .22!

Your suggestion as to what occurred at Virginia Tech is both highly insulting, highly ignorant and most obscene. There were unbelievable examples of heroism and valor on behalf of the faculty and students there - something sadly lacking from those politicians in elective office today

What, the truth? From what I've read, NOT ONE PERSON IN THE BUILDING WENT AFTER THE SHOOTER. Yes, there were heroic acts I can only hope I would be capable of- but barricading a door, while smart, is not precisely heroic or valorous. Two professors held the classroom doors closed while Seung-Hui Cho shot him, one succeeded, one did not, both died. One went to investigate - and ended up shot. Being a hero, perhaps unfortuantly, requires one to be successful.

I DO NOT CONSIDER HIDING UNDER A DESK to be heroic, much less valorous. Read some decorations for medals of honor for heroic and valorous acts. Do you consider hiding under a desk or jumping out a window to be equivalent to, while wounded, grasping a lit flare and hauling it, while it's burning you, to the back of the aircraft to throw it out, like A1C John L. Levitow?

All I was saying was that if we'd trained the students there to consider offensive actions in such a situation, it probably would of resulted in fewer casualties. Even a fatally wounded individual would have probably been able to disable Cho long enough for others to finish the job.

Heros still exist today - I'm just questioning if they're being trained for the correct responses.

Where does our current elected officials come into this? This sort of thing isn't going to be initiated by these individuals. Nice ranting though.

Secondly, choosing the most clueless sci-fi writers - especially at this rather late da

http://smith-wesson.com/
http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/
http://www.colt.com/
http://www.berettausa.com/
http://www.benelliusa.com/
http://www.sigarms.com/
http://www.glock.com/

What makes you think a woman can't respond for herself?

There already is a remote for these problems. I think they can be found here.

A Tec 9 is a semi automatic pistol designed to look like a submachine gun, and due to Intratec's quality, it's more likely to injure the shooter than the target.

For a real submachine gun, I suggest looking elsewhere.

Definitions:from Hyperdictionary
Pistol:The smallest firearm used, intended to be fired from one hand, -- now of many patterns, and bearing a great variety of names.
Sub Machine Gun:a portable machine gun that typically uses pistol ammunition
Machine Gun:A rapid fire automatic rifle, usually mounted.
Assault Rifle:A rapid fire automatic rifle similar to a machine gun, but uses slightly shorter cartridges.

The Army has an extensive selection process for new weapons, and they have stayed with the M16 series for 35 years now-- had something that better fits the needs of the troops and logistical requirements come along in the interim, you can bet that DoD would be using it. Developments in the 1980s with lasers and caseless ammunition (e.g. the HK G11 rifle) failed to improve on the performance of the M16 series, and DoD has continued to procure the M16 and more recently the M4 Carbine (a popular shortened version of the M16 issued to officers, tank crews, and troops other than front line riflemen). The current manufacturer of the M16 is FN Herstal in Belgium, and Colt is the manufacturer of the M4 Carbine. Both pieces are high-quality compared to a lot of junk in the private market. There are any number of manufacturers of M16/AR-15-type rifles, but Colt consistently brings the highest prices in private sales-- "if it's not a Colt, it's just a copy," as they say. While it is certainly possible to buy a better-quality AR-15 from a custom manufacturer, the Colt/FN combination offers DoD the best balance of cost, quality, and production capacity. There are developments under way now that may limit the useful life of currently issued weapons, but every rifle the DoD issues is designed to serve for many years in many sets of hands, with parts being replaced as needed. Check out your local Army surplus store and you'll see all manner of accessories, uniforms, and equipment that the DoD issues to its troops-- most of the *officially issued* stuff is high quality, while the aftermarket knockoffs are junk. You might be surprised at what gets issued...the Soldier Systems Center recently added the Vietnam-style Tomahawk to the Army infantryman's basic load.

This is plain stupid (at least from my European point of view)
If the law wants to be consistent, then these and these guys should also be arrested as they sell "protection circumventing devices".
Selling a tool which allows to break the law should not be punished, only breaking the law should be.

At least three companies offer magnetic trigger locks.
Smartlock
tarnhelm
and Colt
The companies have all determined that there is a market for these devices and that they offer a low enough chance of being sued for it to be profitable. Colt also offers an electronic version to police officers, but I know my inlaws (both of which are police officers) would not want some battery powered thing determining if they can fire their weapon or not.

Man, abuse that. Take two people up and some super soakers. With the increased pressure in the cannisters, and very little wind resistance, those babies should go for miles.
Wait, why not take up a couple of colt revolvers and some afghans. Did I type that out loud?

I think that it's just too profitable to sue nowadays--in most cases the victim of a lawsuit just gives in, rather than face a possible multi-million dollar judgement against them. It works out to be cheaper that way.

It's the exact moral equivalent of a protection racket: buy your "fire insurance" for $100 a week, or your store mysteriously burns down. Oh, and don't bother with the cops, or you might fall down some stairs. Settle out of court, or we'll tie you up in litigation for years, and you'll probalby lose in front of some soft-headed jury, anyhow.

What can be done about it? Heck, I dunno. Maybe I can scrape up some cash and sue someone...