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the US, it isn't a democracy; it's a limited republic with some facist elements.

Some elements? See here under "The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism".

Yeah I know I posted this a few times already and some of you might not agree with the characteristics, the author or the site colors. Just count the matches...

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections
What Will It Take?

more better informed people who care?

I guess that's a rather historical correlation. Woman had a completely different role in the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. There's some debate on whether fascism is per se an anti-feminist movement.

I came across this definition here, and I will post it at every given opportunity. Not because I believe it is the truth or is scientific or anything. Just because it makes me think - hard. It scares the hell out of me, too. Please pass it on as you see fit. DerGeist posted more better links.

It's not so much about whether you agree or find that certain aspects of it do not apply here (now). It's about seeing a bigger picture instead of just a red herring.

To quote some /. sig: Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

"A dictatorship is the most common association with fascism, a democracy or republic can also be fascist when it strays away from its Tenets of sovereignty."

What surprises me is that most people still deny that there are lots of warning signs indicating the fascist layout of the US government. After WWII, everyone said that the Germans should have noticed right from the start what Hitler was up to. Hope the US won't repeat history...

Everytime a discussion on fascism comes up I'm reminded of this wonderful article somebody had in their signature so many moons ago [maybe two years]

Explain how bush is a "liberal" and please define liberal in your context.

What would I call Franklin Delano Roosevelt?

I'd call that a Red Herring and it's you changing the subject. Deal with the fact that Bush is a god damn fascist right now. I'm not supporting FDR 50 years ago, I'm not supporting Bush now.

I suggest you read up on what fascism is and how it applies to the USA.

And despite the best efforts of socio-fascist Democrats, we aren't a police state yet, as evidenced by the fact that you're posting brain-dead replies to me instead of rotting in an internment center.

Look we agree, the Democrats are a bunch of fucks. I'm glad you feel that way.

I just like to say though, your logic is pretty flawed if you think you can tell the status of a police state by the ability to post anonymous comments on slashdot. You can do that from China, big fucking deal. You can do that from pretty much anywhere except north korea, even the Saudis can do that. BFD.

I've already explained to you how the left has laid the foundation for petty tyrannies like mandatory retention of customer e-mails and Internet activity.

Oh really I must have missed that? Something about leftists this and leftists that, right?

Who's running the DOJ?

Hint: NOT THE LEFTISTS BUDDY! We're in a right wing controled government!

Your statements indicate a very deeply flawed understanding of causality.
Oh? Do tell, how the hell do you conjecture that?

Our war in Iraq has fucked so many people, hundreds of THOUSANDS of Iraqi people are just totally SCREWED (if not DEAD).

How about the Afghans?

Fuck, how about our own boys who don't even get BODY ARMOR?

If you're supporting killing people, I hope someone invades your country, tears your laws to shreds and starts locking people up! OH WAIT! Ha! No invasion needed, the right wing's voting for it!

Asshat.

Well, it might be some sort of plan. See "The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism here. Interesting note:

"As of January 2004, the United States fulfills all fourteen points of fascism and all seven warning signs are present. But we're not alone. Israel also fulfills all fourteen points and all seven warning signs as well. Welcome to the new republic, redefined, revised and spun. It is not too late to reverse this in either country, but it will be soon. The first step is realizing it. The second step is getting involved. As the propaganda slogan disguising our current war goes, "Freedom isn't free." But our war for freedom isn't abroad; it's here at home."

I truly feel sorry for the numb Americans sitting on their getting-fatter-as-I-type asses while Zionists are raping their country, making them fight wars on their behalf , bombing their ship in false flag operation, yeah keep eating those super sized big macs, keep getting dumber and dumber while the Zionists fuck up your country and pony ride it to their goals... supporting Israel is now an official American value...
And finally this article the last straw, maybe it has some truth in it maybe Americans are really stupid ?

An in-depth article on the definition of fascism. A bit of an odd source for this kind of political discussion, but hard to argue the merits of the essay.

Here is the link to the article.

Could someone either backup or refute what this article is telling me. It is pretty scary.

Second, maximizing shareholders value has a little if something to do with the lobbying. For example, IBM also maximizes its shareholders value but AFAIK its policy forbids financial support of politicians.

Third, the convergence of corporate power with the Government is not called Capitalism, it is called Fascism. See, for example, 14 defining characteristics of Fascism (and see how 'well' we are faring there.) And only for this reason alone soft money support should be banned.

So, please, do not put your answer in my mouth, for it is not mine.

Somebody pointed this out last week and it has since stuck in my memory.

Check out the 14 points and keep score here

huh? if this is your only concern about such a bill, that explains a lot.

you know, from outside the US, all of these things look very, very scary, and it doesnt seem like even the nerds *uh!* grasp whats at stake. if they pass a bill prohibiting breathing american air, youd probably welcome gill breathing.

well, the rest of the world will watch closely how much more you are willing to give up and how much more they can take away from you until you realize how much the "land of the free" has changed into something that starts to scare the shit out of people.

get rid of your leaders, before they get rid of you.

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