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My faith in humanity is restored, temporarily.

For the first time in my life, I'm seeing a crowd that doesn't wonder if Egyptian hieroglyphs, crop circles, and the Xbox 360 all have the same origin. (link)

The Maya's an Aztechs are announcing this with their calendar that includes 'new suns' every 5200 years and with the new sun comes an enormous climate change. Guess what according to the maya's the new sun is coming in the year 2012.
More information about this can be found at a site about cropcircles, a certain crop which one the title 'cropcircle of the year' which is a doomsday calender which is warning for the new sun. The site explains the maya calender which fits exactly over the 5200 years of the old sun which according to the calendar will be replaced by the new sun and climate in 2012. http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2004/silburyhil l2/silburyhill2004b.html

Dang, I think I'm being trolled again. You're doing it gently and politely, I'll grant, but I think you're trolling all the same. That makes the second time recently for me.

I'm terribly sorry for inconveniencing you with an impression that I am trolling, however, I stand by my opinion and let you have yours. *giggle* ;-)

Have you found any? Care to share? It's not up to others to find evidence for an unconvincing case.

I'll let RedBear speak for me, as he does it much more elegantly than me. A reply to his post is also worth an extra glance. These are not evidence per se, but they are very compelling reasons to investigate further. It's better to read books about the subject than what's on the net (so much crap).

There are tons more of these little facts: It's happening all over the world in varying degrees. Crop circles have been reported in mostly barley and wheat. But, they also appear in corn, oats, oilseed rape (canola), grass, ricefields, trees, sand, and even snow. When investigators come early to an authentic ring, there are no footprints or traces of the creators, even on a rainy day with muddy ground. Many rings are made in canola, which you cannot step into without turning completely yellow, and breaking the fragile crop leaving trails into the crops. The earliest known formation was in 1647 in England (see the picture of the devil bending the crop), so it's not new of date. The microscopic structure of the plants themselves seem to have changed, which cannot be explained by conventional methods. Claims have been made that the cropgrowth are boosted (also researched). This means that many times you can see cropcircles of last year, in the new crop this year, as faint shadows because of longer crops. The genuine cropcircles also exhibits more complexity, whirls within the circles, especially in the middle. They are much more complex when you get a closer look at them.

All in all, there's alot of interesting stuff. Perhaps it's all made up of kooks and hoaxers as you seem to suggest, but I'm not that paranoid to believe such a grand conspiracy. There's too much work involved, both in design, planning and

Also, you missed the bit about keeping an open mind, even when one has a firm position/opnion. Clearly you find it difficult to believe that one can both have an opinion on topic X and an open mind on topic X. You've certainly shown that the reverse is true - one can have no opinion on a topic and a closed mind on it!! :-)

But I do have an opinion, and it is not convinced that humans are doing this. You are the one who cannot for the life of you accept the possibility of ETs or anything extraordinary. But it's typical to attack others for your own lacks..

Clearly, some of these works of art involve more than planks of wood and string, hence my reference to smart people. But I think you know this already - you were just defeating a straw man there (attacking a position I did not take).

Why would anybody with all the knowledge behind circles spend their time sweating in the long dark hours, without even being detected? What is the motive?

And let me repeat my question - which do you REALLY think is more likely? C'mon - say it! You really think it's 50-50? I don't know who did it either, but I have an opinion on the most likely explanation - do you?

50-50 of WHAT?? Crop circles are interesting, even with humans making them. When you really study them, they're impressive.

Actually you are, and that's OK! Stand firm! Express an opinion! You clearly think it's likely that I'm wrong!

How can you be wrong, when you offer no hypothesis and motive? You're just dismissing the whole thing as 'uninteresting', and that's your right..

Close! I have a negative attitude to anything non-existent. And I take a very, VERY broad interpretation of what existence means. But if it's invisible, unmeasurable, unpredictable, with no form or substance, and no effect on the world whatsoever (all in the broadest sense), then it doesn't exist.

Then in 1800, atoms and molecules didn't exist for you. They could not be measured or understood at the time, so they didn't exist, except for the "nutcracks" and "kooks" that persisted in researching what building blocks the world is made of.

Times certainly doesn't change much..

And your evidence for that assertion? Let me guess - I disagree with you, so I mustn't have done the research!

Seems so to me. The only other explanation is that you're AFRAID to find out that something fantastic really exists.

Sure I do, that's why I don't need to make stuff up.

They're not made up, you can visit crop circles yourself.

Tangent? I feel like I stepped into the middle of a different conversation.

Hint: It's to do with your dismissal attitude.

Hey - anything's possible! ;-)

If only more people actually believed that, they would be open to new discoveries.

Instead, a witchhunt is clearly taking place. Ok, some of the kooks clearly "deserves it". However, that doesn't justify a crucifiction IMHO.

Dang, I think I'm being trolled again. You're doing it gently and politely, I'll grant, but I think you're trolling all the same. That makes the second time recently for me.

I'm terribly sorry for inconveniencing you with an impression that I am trolling, however, I stand by my opinion and let you have yours. *giggle* ;-)

Have you found any? Care to share? It's not up to others to find evidence for an unconvincing case.

I'll let RedBear speak for me, as he does it much more elegantly than me. A reply to his post is also worth an extra glance. These are not evidence per se, but they are very compelling reasons to investigate further. It's better to read books about the subject than what's on the net (so much crap).

There are tons more of these little facts: It's happening all over the world in varying degrees. Crop circles have been reported in mostly barley and wheat. But, they also appear in corn, oats, oilseed rape (canola), grass, ricefields, trees, sand, and even snow. When investigators come early to an authentic ring, there are no footprints or traces of the creators, even on a rainy day with muddy ground. Many rings are made in canola, which you cannot step into without turning completely yellow, and breaking the fragile crop leaving trails into the crops. The earliest known formation was in 1647 in England (see the picture of the devil bending the crop), so it's not new of date. The microscopic structure of the plants themselves seem to have changed, which cannot be explained by conventional methods. Claims have been made that the cropgrowth are boosted (also researched). This means that many times you can see cropcircles of last year, in the new crop this year, as faint shadows because of longer crops. The genuine cropcircles also exhibits more complexity, whirls within the circles, especially in the middle. They are much more complex when you get a closer look at them.

All in all, there's alot of interesting stuff. Perhaps it's all made up of kooks and hoaxers as you seem to suggest, but I'm not that paranoid to believe such a grand conspiracy. There's too much work involved, both in design, planning and

Also, you missed the bit about keeping an open mind, even when one has a firm position/opnion. Clearly you find it difficult to believe that one can both have an opinion on topic X and an open mind on topic X. You've certainly shown that the reverse is true - one can have no opinion on a topic and a closed mind on it!! :-)

But I do have an opinion, and it is not convinced that humans are doing this. You are the one who cannot for the life of you accept the possibility of ETs or anything extraordinary. But it's typical to attack others for your own lacks..

Clearly, some of these works of art involve more than planks of wood and string, hence my reference to smart people. But I think you know this already - you were just defeating a straw man there (attacking a position I did not take).

Why would anybody with all the knowledge behind circles spend their time sweating in the long dark hours, without even being detected? What is the motive?

And let me repeat my question - which do you REALLY think is more likely? C'mon - say it! You really think it's 50-50? I don't know who did it either, but I have an opinion on the most likely explanation - do you?

50-50 of WHAT?? Crop circles are interesting, even with humans making them. When you really study them, they're impressive.

Actually you are, and that's OK! Stand firm! Express an opinion! You clearly think it's likely that I'm wrong!

How can you be wrong, when you offer no hypothesis and motive? You're just dismissing the whole thing as 'uninteresting', and that's your right..

Close! I have a negative attitude to anything non-existent. And I take a very, VERY broad interpretation of what existence means. But if it's invisible, unmeasurable, unpredictable, with no form or substance, and no effect on the world whatsoever (all in the broadest sense), then it doesn't exist.

Then in 1800, atoms and molecules didn't exist for you. They could not be measured or understood at the time, so they didn't exist, except for the "nutcracks" and "kooks" that persisted in researching what building blocks the world is made of.

Times certainly doesn't change much..

And your evidence for that assertion? Let me guess - I disagree with you, so I mustn't have done the research!

Seems so to me. The only other explanation is that you're AFRAID to find out that something fantastic really exists.

Sure I do, that's why I don't need to make stuff up.

They're not made up, you can visit crop circles yourself.

Tangent? I feel like I stepped into the middle of a different conversation.

Hint: It's to do with your dismissal attitude.

Hey - anything's possible! ;-)

If only more people actually believed that, they would be open to new discoveries.

Instead, a witchhunt is clearly taking place. Ok, some of the kooks clearly "deserves it". However, that doesn't justify a crucifiction IMHO.

if you look closely, the track always intersects the design in the center, or at a node that could be the "pivot point" of the design.

Has anyone tried to figure out what the CD says? :)

Well, seriously think about it. What are the possibilities.

1) It was an alien.
They'd be trying to convey a message.. So it should be easy to decrypt.

2) It was a hoax.
Someone wants bragging rights. They're not going to go through all the work of trashing that field (great work though), and not make the obviously intricate CD mean *something*.

Looking at http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2002/Crabwood/c rabwood2002sac.jpg, it's fairly clear to see that the marks are evenly spaced. There's an obvious smallest unit, which the others are multiples of.. So, take the smallest displayed unit as 1, and the absense of a unit as 0, the whole thing could be broken out to binary...

But, do aliens know ASCII to Binary translation? :)

BTW, have another look at the pic. It's not rings, it's a spiral like a record.. The beginning and end are solid, and taper up and down from nothing. The bumps are too infrequent to even attempt to simulate an audio record.. That'd just make pops..

I'm sorry, but to me, crop circles have to be proof of something. A recent investigation of the absolutely breathtaking Milk Hill incident showed that it could not have been created by humans on the ground without several days' work and heavy plowing equipment -- but the pattern appeared overnight, without disturbing any nearby residents. And it's so geometrically perfect! If it isn't ET, than someone is having some fun with an orbitting laser a la Ed in Cowboy Bebop.

Cool stuff!

I'm sorry, but to me, crop circles have to be proof of something. A recent investigation of the absolutely breathtaking Milk Hill incident showed that it could not have been created by humans on the ground without several days' work and heavy plowing equipment -- but the pattern appeared overnight, without disturbing any nearby residents. And it's so geometrically perfect! If it isn't ET, than someone is having some fun with an orbitting laser a la Ed in Cowboy Bebop.

Cool stuff!

http://cropcircleconnector.com/2000/2000.html

http://www.cropcircleradius.com/

The complexity and amount of cropcircles are increasing each year. They are really amazing, I believe, the greatest mysteries of our time. Of course, you are free to think otherwise. I just wish people could take an extra look before opening up their mouth.

- Steeltoe