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The summary refers to this as "grey-market", which it doesn't seem to be. Grey market goods are legitimate goods sold outside the authorized distribution channels, it could be imported from outside the US (think Canadian Pharmacies, though many of those are fake), it could be bought on the cheap to be resold. The Key being Grey market goods are by definition the "real thing", obtained legally but resold without the backing of the maker. Its up to company policies then whether they will support grey market goods. On the other hand, Black market goods may not legally obtained, may not be legal for possession, or may not be what they are represented as being, and are certainly not supported by their "makers". Note that "black market" goods might be represented as "grey market", turns out purveyers of black market goods tend to be dishonest in their dealings.

So which is it? A fake Rolex that actually has a $0.25 quartz movement inside? Or the real deal in terms of functionality and hardware, being made somehow without Cisco's approval and without going through their distribution chain?

Either way the part is called "counterfeit". When it breaks, Cisco won't support it. A Fake Rolex w/ a cheap Quartz movement will likely keep time better than a knock off that tried to replicate the delicate and intricate movement of a true "automatic" watch. If it was made w/o Cisco's approval, they likely made it w/ substandard components and w/o the proper QA procedures, so they can actually make money when the sell it at a deep discount. What do they care, they don't have to worry about supporting it.

Regarding parent post's critique of the name e360insight and your mention of Cyveillance: Cyveillance 360 http://www.cyveillance.com/web/process/cy_360.htm

Their site says 'Please contact us with questions about this case or to INQUIRE ABOUT OUR MARKETING SERVICES." (yea, right!). As a person reporting spam for years instead of ignoring, I see we are dealing with some dark, botnet connected, worm author hiring, open proxy bidding company here.

Such people are very advanced , they aren't stupid to spam via their own domain/IPs or distribute spyware/spamware (yes exists) via their own space.

So, if you check their IP space, they are clean.

It makes me wonder if large spam reporting organisations such as Spamcop or large device vendors like Ironport (Spamcops parent) and famous http://www.cyveillance.com/ can't provide evidence to court or spamhaus?

They have terabytes or petabytes of spam in their hand.

I don't think anyone including those crooks can mess with Cyvelliance ;)

There are a few companies out there that already provide a service similar to this.

It's been poking about a few times, and at least it appears to obey robots.txt and use anti-hammer tricks unlike another IP rights company (albeit tagged to another market altogether) cyveillance who use false user agents to hide their activity, don't look for robots.txt and can sometimes hammer your entire website off the web if you have a low cap (say daily rather than monthly). Kudos to people who build polite bots. Have they been crawling your site?

He would know. He already has links with Organized Crime

User-agent: *
Disallow: /web/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web1/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Desallow: /web1/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp

User-agent: *
Disallow: /web/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web1/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Desallow: /web1/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp

User-agent: *
Disallow: /web/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web1/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Desallow: /web1/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp

User-agent: *
Disallow: /web/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web1/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Desallow: /web1/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp

User-agent: *
Disallow: /web/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp
Disallow: /web1/us/partners/submit_pw.asp
Desallow: /web1/uk/partners/submit_pw.asp

Bullshit warning: I'm about to pull a lot of numbers out my ass. I hope to be semi-reasonable and conservative, but it's guesswork nonetheless.

Let's suppose for the sake of argument the NSA can in fact intercept any transmission and beyond that can convert any spoken words in any language to flawless text.

5 minutes of phone time per person per day worldwide
6 billion people
at least 1 word every 3 seconds
2 people in the typical conversation
8 character average word length (w/ space)
= 2.4 Terabytes per day

200 important daily newspapers
50,000 words per issue
= 80 Mbytes per day

5,000 magazines / periodicals
median time of 2 weeks
100 pages on average
average 400 words per page
= 114 Mbytes per day

15,000 worldwide radio stations
35% of time is spoken
1 word every 2 seconds in spoken segments
= 1.8 Gigabytes

7 million new webpages a day (source)
10k average size
= 70 Gigabytes per day

500 million email users
average 0.5 email sent per user per day
18k average email size (source)
= 4.5 Terabytes per day

Total = 7 Terabytes per day

If the NSA really were out to track everything, suffice it to say, it's one monster of a computer engineering problem. We are generating more information than ever and don't have the same kinds of well defined enemies. And how many actual analysts are required to make any sense of all that? Is it any wonder they might be falling behind?

Of course I'm sure there are lots of sources of information, such as TV, that I haven't even covered.