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Kevin was in the DC area for his book signing tour "The Art of Deception" in November this year. He showed up at the DC2600 meeting and hung around for a while.

Very personable, helpful, nice guy. No, he did not talik me out of any cc#s or pws, hehe... well... I don't think he did...

I spotted him walking through the food court and said "Hey, there's Kevin", he circled around a few times, guess he did not hear me calling his name, and he sat down and stayed for the meeting. As would happen, it was the smallest meeting in years, only 3 of us were there before Kevin got there and I don't think the count got above 15 all night. Go figure.

Several of us got him to sign blank CD-Rs (he wrote "this is not my data" under his signature. He also gave away copies of his book (free as in bird ;-).

I got signed disks for my son and me, then many of us went to his book signing at Microcenter the next day. He drew a pretty large crowd there too. Bought 2 copies of his book, one for me one for my son and added the signed stuff to my son's Christmas stuff.

A few years back I helped out with the "June 4th, Free Kevin" demonstration in front of the US Supreme Court, was glad to finally meet him in person.

Well, PotA was "consistant" with the horses, just like "Star Wars" is consistant with sound in space.

BTW, SW is fiction too ;-)

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The book was about european class differences.

This movie is a retelling of the book, not a re-doing of the last time the book was torn to shreds.

This movie is good, but a different "good" from the first and at least nods at the book, something the first movie ever did.

Why are so many people so dedicated to the first movie? It followed almost othing from the book and was hobbled by crappy tech and a low budget?

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At last! A post that makes perfect sense!

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The ending is from the origonal BOOK by Pierre Boule.

The origonal *movie* is NOTHING LIKE the book.

This movie has NOTHING to do with the origonal movie and little to do with the origonal book.

All 3 are works of fiction, thus explaining the horses in the most recent movie.

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The ending does work if flipperboy's theory is applied.

The middle is still a mess with unexplained horsies. Where did the horsies come from!?

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First item: It is a work of fiction!

Second item: Ape species variety puzzle.

Answer: Genetic engeering side effects.

The genetic engineering of the chimps included key genes from several other ape species that allowed for RAPID ape variety when the chimps broke free from the humans and were able to reproduce naturally, without "impurities" being destroyed.

Did you note the extreme LACK of variety in the apes in the movie? Where were the spider monkeys, etc? I only counted chimps, orangutans and gorillas, no others (might have missed some).

The lack of diversity in humans was probably to the lack of diversity of the ship's crew.

Ending: Thad (the ape general, whatever his name was) had a momument to him in the "future" because HE became a myrtar after being "jailed for life" in the ship. Legend developed and the apes took over the earth after they got guns (note that all of the DC ape cops had guns at the end), thus being able to re-enslave all humans.

Now, someone else work on the horsey problem? I will never figure that one out.

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I am amazed that *anybody*, including the /. crowd, thinks for a second that Charlton Heston's lines literally meant "people should not have guns".

Didn't you guys pay attantion to ANY of the other words in that scene?

Heston's character says that "with guns in the hands of humans, our strength is no longer an advantage" and goes on to say that the apes will no longer be able to enslave the humans.

Get it? Does ANYBODY get that? He is saying that guns are the EQUALIZER that will allow humans to break the bonds of slavery.

How does EVERY person *paid* to review movies miss 90% of the important stuff?

I agree with the AC above, this was not a "remake" it is a wholly new movie that could have been done better. (I liked it anyway)

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Sorry to dissapoint, it is just my handle. My parents named me something else ;-)

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Yes, that would be me. No it is not my *real* name, just my handle that I have used for a few years.

http://www.dc2600.com

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If I were determined to netcast it anyway there would be very little they could do to stop me.

For example, I could obtain servers in nations that don't care what the olympic committee says or have lax copyright laws, then upload the information direct from TV broadcasts off satellite or from broadcast TV, using VPN to mask content of the stream, with other content obfuscation techniques.

There are literally dozens of ways to circumvent and content restriction. Also, facts are not copyrightable in the USA, reporting of them is no violation of any law in the USA, so internet reporting of events (not actually streaming audio/video) can not be effectively stopped.

This is just more evidence that the Olympics has nothing to do with amature competition and everything to do with selling tickets to a human circus. The broadcasters being the primary ticket buyers that P.T. Barnum spoke of in his "suckers" comment.


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Well, he is great if he is the same guy that I saw as a guest on various talk shows in the 1970's. Sounds exactly like the same guy.

If anybody has access to old Tonight Show archives, try to find one with Abagnale being interviewed by guest host George Carlin, from around 1975 or so (not kidding, younger readers). Abagnale tells a story of how he was able to pass a forged check to a very expensive prostitute/call girl (memory fuzzy on where it was) in a very pricy hotel, also paid for with a bad check. Oh yes, I think he got several hundred dollars US change back from her.

On interviews of the period, he covers how to use magnetic ink to forge deposit slips and place them in bank lobbies so that all deposits processed with those slips dump into an account of the forger's choice. Also how he created a fake night deposit box, stood guard on it all evening and had 2 rentacops or real cops (forgot) help him load it into his "security van" because it was too heavy for him to lift.

He never mentioned that many of these methods could be used for revenge too, i.e., how would you explain a couple million dollars in your bank account from forged deposit slips?

His stories are fantastic, excellent interview, excellent speaker too. Highly recommended, now I have to get the book!

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I am typing while wasted, sorry (extra attention to typing on this post)

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I can not wait for internet voting, because Jeff Vogel of the Scorched Earth Party would get more votes fro presicent than the estimated number of electrons in the universe, from ME!

thank you

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Excuse me but cable != monopoly, it depends on the location and I see nothing here saying that this Florida county granted a monopoly to AT&T.

Second point, if they do indeed have a monopoly then cry at the government agency that granted/regulates them.

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That's right, it's not democratic. It's not supposed to be. We are not a democracy, we are a "republic".

Several times before the election I posted electoral collige links and facts, but it does not do any good for the vast majority of people. It is like trying to explain to them that "personal property" != "private property".

So many of these folks seem to be just simpletons following the words of the TV person with the "best" hair and the slickest teleprompter delivery.

Now, for the rest of us who know what the Electoral College is, I suggest that we get our States to adopt the Maine/Nebraska Electoral system and also to end the practice of "faithless electors" (as 25 or so States have done already).

If this system is adopted we still get to tell our State how to vote while having some diversity between congressional district (those of us with more than one house member at least). It even opens the possibility of other parties to gain electoral votes in the final tally and perhaps a little more national exposure.

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The military absentee vote usually splits close to even.

Granted, many of the folks in the military that talk about politics try to label themselves conservative and support, in spirit, Republican candidates, but the ones that actually vote outside of where they are stationed split about even.

Q. If someone advocated socializing the defense industry, would you consider them a conservative at all?

A. An Academy grad that I was in the Army Aviation Officer Advanced Course with advocated the above, along with many other extreme left economic views, but he was a hardcore Republican.

Not a stat, just an anecdote.

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If you think that it may be a factor you can always wait until the last moment.

What about if you vote in the morning and something shocking is revealed in the afternoon? I know it is more likely for this situation to happen in a 2 week timespan, but if "it" was not revealed until within 2 weeks then "it" probably would not change my mind.

BTW, I think that the booths go up about the sae time the mail in ballots are arriving in the mail to voters.

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I refuse to be a VA resident, so my domocile is still in Tennessee.

Anyway, at the risk of being redundant (have posted some of this before) I voted at an electronic machine in Tennessee on Saturday October 21st, 2000. I prefer the electronic voting machines over all othrs that I have used over the past 20 years.

However, I did have to wait in line for a while before voting. The machines were setup at a mall and the mood was quite relaxed.

I heard from people that voted a week later that they had no waiting.

Pressing the name and seeing the green LED (all parties, not just the Nader one ;) come on recording the vote seems just so much more satisfying than punching a card.

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But Bush obviously did show up to fly the plane, in flight school and for several years after.

He then became employed out of State and his commander let him stay in the unit without attending, happens frequently now, obviously was not unheard of then.

Be that as it may, he was flying missions with his unit for some time, much more often than Al Gore "taking the point", another Gore fiction that he himself lied about.

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Actually, having been a National Guardsman for over 12 years, Commissioned and Enlisted, I would have to see more evidence that he did anything improper.

He certainly seems to have had the blessing of his command, no action was brought against him at all (it would have been trivial to do then, still quite easy now). Also, I am not sure about all of the little rules of his time, but when I completed Army flight school, funded by TN, another Tennessee Guardsman that was there with me got a job in Florida and was no longer obligated to complete service in TN. If he had just failed to show up he would have had some sort of disciplinary action.

Whatever the situation was with Bush, it sure does not look like he was doing anything out of the ordinary then, at least by the scant records available.

Also note, driving a fighter ANYPLACE is more hazerdous than smoking dope with your secret service gaurds in a secure compound in Vietnam.

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Also, you might try toning the language down a bit, especially if you are so challanged ad you demonstrate.

The quote: by size, maybe. but hell, by that logic, Tony Knowles, governor of Alaska, is even more qualified for the job. demonstrates that this person believes Texas is the second largest State by size only. In reality it is the second largest State by both size and population.

The poster also states that the GOvernor of Alaska is more qualified, without regard to the fact that Alaska is one of the least populated States in the nation.

Now, please, pay more attention before you go calling names that would, in your case, best be shouted while standing in front of a mirror.



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> Bush is the twice elected governor of the second biggest state in the country.

by size, maybe. but hell, by that logic, Tony Knowles, governor of Alaska, is even more qualified for the job.

Excuse me? Where are you getting your info?
Texas has a census bureau estimated 1999 population of 20,044,141 a greater population than NY 1999 census bureau est. at 18,196,601. When the Congressional districts are reapportioned TX will have more votes electoral votes and larger Congressional delegation than any other State besides California. In otherwords, NY voters currently are casting one more electoral vote than a State that has around 2 million more people than than NY.

California is by far the most populous State and currently casts 54 electoral votes.

See http://www.census.gov/ to brush up on current State population estimates.

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Yep, I believe that I have seen your info before and never doubted that Gore edged over Bush in a standardized admissions test. How did Gore do on the GMAT? Probably did not take it. What about the GRE? What about the ASVAB?

At least Bush was able to complete flight school. The Army version was no picnic for me, doubt that the Airforce one is any cake walk either.

If Gore was not out getting "baked" (smoking pot) at the Bayou in his true home of Washington, DC, while he was SUPPOSED to be attending Georgetown law school, he might have finished that.

If he had been attending Vanderbilt's Divinity school instead of doing the same in Nashville, he might have finished that too.

Well, he didn't. There have been no shortage of his contemporaries talking about him smoking dope all the time, people he worked with, people I know in the DC area that worked at "The Bayou" nightclub back then, his own admission that he did it in Vietnam (he left out the part about being heavily protected while there) and on and on. However, it would be fine by me if it was not affecting his performance. It certainly appears that it was affecting his performance.

Oh yea, I wish people would stop saying that he is from TN. He is from DC, period.

Maybe Bush was drinking a lot back then and never denied it, but at least he was able to finish an MBA from a REAL MBA program. And I have not been reading about any "witnesses" to this cocaine fiction that was spread about Bush. If it were true I would expect a similar turnout of snorting buddies for Bush as there are smoking buddies for Gore.

YES, I am pissed that I did not get free smokes in TN like the homeless got in Michigan when they went to vote in the Gore vans!



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(Informing and venting at the same time, please read gently)

Folks, those of us that vote in Tennessee (and KY, OH, TX, perhaps others?) have been able to vote for a couple of weeks now. I voted on 21 October 2000 and still had to wait in a couple of lines even that early. Relatives that voted a week later (still back in October), had no waiting. I first voted this way 4 years ago and would never trade the convenience and SANITY of this method.

BTW, I am not speaking of mail-in voting, we setup electronic machines in easy to get to places, I voted in a mall on a Saturday.

If the "mainstream press" were really interested if that boy from Washington, DC (Al Gore) is winning the State of TN then they should have been doing exit polling for a couple of weeks, not waiting until the last 150 people finally get to the voting places on the last day.

Actually, if /. was interested in early voting they would have posted one of the stories I submitted about early voting (not complaining, just stating). Hell, for all I know this will be the least read comment on this topic. However, people in the DC/NoVA area, where I work, seem to be fascinated with this "advanced technology" and that it is somehow "not right".

If the States out on the west coast would adopt a system like TN, KY, OH, TX then they could stop whining about the election being "over" before they voted. Well, probably would not stop the whining, but they would have had an opportunity to vote their choice long before Dixville Notch, N.H. counts its votes early "election day" morning.

If other States would adopt proportional voting like Maine and Nebraska, then folks can stop whining about the electoral college too. Check Electoral College Homepage for real info on how it works, instead of listening to reporters and victims of public education that post here. The EC is NOT "winner take all" by any means.

Please check the http://www.2600.com for their polling results, then look at the current cover. I love the mag as well as the bias, that I do not always share, especially in this case.

Anyway, I voted last month and if Albert Gore Jr. wins the State of TN, it certainly will not be my fault. I want to see his face as he is counting the votes in January (if this sounds like a clueless statement, please check that EC link and refresh your knowledge of how this process works).

Hell, you would probably want to see mine if I am completely wrong about the outcome of this election, LOL!

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OK, Albert Gore Jr. counts all of the votes on Jan. 6th 2001, not sometime in December.

December is when the various electors in the States meet to vote and the results are sent to DC within about a week.

Amendment only has 2 "m"'s

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4) electoral reform
by carleton

Response from a back room Republicrat lacky that can read and browse the web, to be fired from the campaign for failing to obfuscate the issue.

First of all, the way those votes are cast is NOT a federal issue, it is a State issue. The Constitution leaves the procedure of casting the electorial college votes to the States. See The Electorial College Homepage for detailed info like this:

Procedures
The States

The United States Constitution and Federal law place certain responsibilities relating to the Presidential election upon State executives and the electors for President and Vice President. Neither the Constitution nor Federal law prescribe the manner in which each State appoints its electors other than directing that they be appointed on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November (November 7, 2000). The Constitution forbids a Senator, Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States from being appointed as an elector.

There is plenty of information on that site that, apparently, nobody that discusses this topic bothers to learn.

For one thing, it is Maine and Nebraska that have proportional electors, sort of. They have 2 electors that are elected "a large" and all other electors are elected by congressional district.

If you want it to be changed, lobby your own State legeslatures and skip the Constitutional Ammendment nonsense.

Also, the current system is the closest mechanism that would allow a less "popular" candidate to be elected. Since so many of the electors are bound by nothing but their own concience (some States do have penalties and/or other safeguards for electors that do not vote as they were pleged to do), they *could* elect someone that is not the winner of the popular vote. That has happened at least once.

Note: The only "electorial college" electors that meet in Washington, DC, are the electors from DC (per Amendment XXIII, currently 3), the rest meet in thier respective States and their ballots are counted by the President of the Senate (currently Albert Gore, Jr.) in December.

Another related non-issue: Calafornia hears the "winner" long before their polls are closed.

OK, west coast, do what TN, OH and KY do, open your polls 15 days early, let people vote at the mall, use a nice laid back easy system and then all you need to do is count votes on "election day" since everybody had plenty of time to vote already. Or you could encourage absantee balloting, like Washington State and keep the east coast in the dark as the snail-mail dribbles in for the count.

Either way, the States have the power. Leave the Constitution alone please.

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1) The Electoral College is a throwback to a form of representative democracy born in an era when direct democracy was not technologically feasible. The notion that a person whom the majority of Americans hate could still become President because he won in three states should be quite troubling.

Perhaps you should read some of the comments from other posters as well as this: Electorial College Homepage. If what you suppose were really true then one of these guys that the other /.ers like so much might have a chance at winning. Yes, there have been instances where a less popular candidate won, please look into those circumstances on your own.

For one thing, the States determine the way their votes are cast, not the feds (feds only determine the number of votes per State). Every State could have a proportional system like Nebraska or Maine. If you don't live in those 2 states then I suggest you lobby your own State Legeslature and leave the Constitution alone please. It is your State government that is broken, not our Constitution.

I have never seen anything supporting the notion that the electorial college system was created because votes could not be counted fast enough or that the Founding Fathers actually wanted anything besides a Republic. If there is some actual discourse amoung the founding fathers about this then please let the rest of us know. Until then, please let this myth die along with that myth that Ammendment II has anything at all to do with hunting.


2) The Bill of Rights is in serious need of revision. Does anybody even pay any attention to the ninth and tenth amendments?

That would be these? IX and X

Another poster mentioned the Supreme Court knocks down the legeslative and executive branch with those 2 Ammendments whenever it can. It would be nice if this happened much more often, but it does happen.

I did not miss your comment on Ammendment III, but if you do not see the importance of that already then you never will.

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. . . there are more Americans turning 18 than ever before,
and they now know that at least one presidential candidate is an idiot.
- JonKatz

Ahem, in the past 20 years, we have been nowhere near the record of Americans turning 18. That event occured when the peak of the babyboom generation turned 18 in the 70's (or was that the late 60's?) and the current number of 18yr olds pales in comparison.

Umm, wanna expand on that idiot part Jon?

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jesus fing CHRIST! /. posts this same stupid article every 9 months or so as if it is new. THE DAMN THING IS AT LEAST 3 YEARS OLD!!! THIIS IS THE 3rd TIME /. HAS POSTED IT ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!

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Well, IMO, it's time employers are FORCED to play fair and give up their extremely abusive practises.

The work environment will force them to work with the workers, eventually. Guys like this can only cry for so long before they go out of business or their business flees to the effective employers that retain the skills developed within their own company.

BTW, I have changed my mind from my post above, in this thread, offering to send a resume. I would not work for this guy if I got to be corporate security VP AND chief pilot.

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Are you looking for someone that already knows everything in the world about router and UNIX hacking, or are you willing to accept someone that loves the stuff but has not gotten to use it "at work" yet?

Is the job in Northern VA (where I work now) or within 500 miles of Knoxville, TN? If not I would not be able to start before June of next year.

Are you willing to accept a home UNIX user? I have been running my own Linux/Apache webserver for a couple of years, after work. I am a Logistician and Functional Data Analyst, Lead and the only UNIX experience that I have right now was earned on my own.

There are tons of people like me out there, maybe we have not been paid to do what you want done by someone else, but we DO want to do that kind of work and are fully capable of doing it. However, the static we get is "your hobby does not count, you need specific work experience as an administrater of an AIX server using HPblahblahRAID5 and Apache 1.2.x with Oracle 7, 8 years of PGP (must know C and C++) and 7 years or more of Linux (yes, I have had recruiters say that a position required 7+ years of Linux specific experience, sorry I was not one of the pioneers).

Getting a UNIX system running in my Jeep and at home was generally a breeze, what is the big deal on messing with them in an office?

As a Logistician, I am required to integrate all sorts of data systems in order to analize the information properly. If I could not use multiple systems, I could not do my job. Whatever you have should not be too big a task.

BTW, another poster mentions an Israeli pilot applied for a job with them, might want to look into him. I am a former US Army Aviator and none of this stuff is as demanding as that job was.

If you had posted an e-mail address I would have sent you a resume.

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Too bad that the MPAA was not forbidden from sending out letters like this until the appeal is heard.

I am still at a loss as to how a decypher routine, that does not play or copy anything by itself, can be a "pirating device", or whatever that Amish judge said.

Somehow, the rights of the individual make no difference to anybody any more (except for that individual of course). How on earth can it be *wrong* for me to give my own instructions to my own equipment to play files that I purchased? If I am doing something like copying DVDs, then by all means, prosecute me.

In this case, the MPAA obviously does not care about piracy, because they are harassing everybody that they can find *except* the pirates.

Let's see, if Chrysler decided to provide a *licensed* map with every vehicle that they sell, and by their own decree that map was some sort of "safety equipment", then some person went into a gas station and was handed a "free" map for a fillup, then was *caught* by Chrysler in posession of that map, would any court bother to hear a criminal case against the gas station for giving away "circumvention devices"? Also, add that the gas station was aiding "counterfiters" of automobile products, with the map being a key component in the counterfiting.

Sadly, in this day and age, I believe that the answer would be yes and the above example is identical to what happened to 2600 magazine.

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I went around and around with Bell Atlantic on a phone deposit, similar experience as yours, for 6 or 7 months.

I did finally get to speak with a supervisor, then a manager, etc. and finally got tired of hearing that "it takes 2 weeks" from every single person, no matter how long it had been since the last drone told me the same thing.

In my case, they said that my deposit could not be sent until my final bill was paid, but they could not generate a final bill for some reason so I would have to wait until they fixed their "complex software problem". Sending the deposit and then sending a bill later was "impossible".

Finally, I contacted the Attourney's General office in Richmond, VA (the phone in question was in VA) and my deposit was FedExed to Tennessee immediately in TN. I have no idea where the final bill went or if they have ever figured it up.

This was about 2 years ago I think.

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The difference is that neither SI, nor the phone manufacturer sent out threatening legalease letters telling people that they can not add 2nd line capability (or other mods), nor use it as a "beige box" (lineman's handset), nor did they tell anybody that their phone communications through the device must be monitored and circumvention of monitoring will be prosecuted.

Nope, nobody did any of the above to anybody getting an SI phone.

However, DC has already done this to several people that have CueCats.

That would be the difference.

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A prior post about UT Knoxville from 00/09/11. Hopefully, someone there will have some more specifics on the policy.

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And Radio Shack has your real name, address and phone number on record.. (They have been asking for this information
sence the 1980s.. to give them credit this data lasts only a month.. they clear out old records they only want data on frequent
shoppers)

How did Radio Shack get my real name, address and phone numnber? I have 2 CueCats. Picked up one at Pentagon City Mall, Arlington VA during a 2600 meeting. Gave them this handle and a fabricated address.

The second one I picked up at a Radio Shack in Tennessee. Gave them a different fake name, address, phone.

Now, please tell me how they now have my real name, address and phone number? This sounds like something out of a Will Smith movie or something!

Even when the CueCat that they will be sending because I subscribe to Wired arrives, it will be declawed. When I use it on a BSD system, they will still not know who I am, as far as I know anyway.

So, please share with us how they are getting the real names of people when they do not even ask for ID of any form, nor do they verify if the address or phone number is valid at the time they enter the data.

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If you can't be found, I can guarantee that the first place they'll go is to your ISP. Your ISP will then promptly either disclose who you are or shut you down. This is not a useful solution. You simply can't be public and be hidden. Don't even try.

If the ISP does not know who you are how can they disclose it? It is a trivial exercise to keep that information from them and everybidy else, as long as you are willing to give up convenience. I *thought* that I stated that in my post, but the post is not in front of me and I probably did not state it very clearly.

"Shut you down" as in throwing you in jail and silencing you? See paragraph above. If they can't find you they can not silence you. You can ALWAYS get hosted at another place. The deciding factor being that, just as in real life, privacy on the 'net brings a cost of convenience. If you are willing to pay those costs (get hosted at a "privacy friendly" service, remote admin, etc.) then you keep operating under a different domain.

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Not a stinking thing that anybody posts to a website SHOULD be used as grounds to go after the operator. You are an ISP of sorts. You never offered police or babysitting services (even if your website is cop or baby related).

Yes, this gets to the roots of the problem with these stupid legal nitwits that want to sue everybody in sight because they believe that they now own the ASCII set (or whatever) through edict of a clueless government agency, or they believe that words constitute "assault", other assorted nonsense.

Look at it from a privacy issue. You are providing words but you have no desire to be identified for your hard work.

If you obscure ownership of the site, then it is more difficult for the errant, baseless, lawyerspeak mail to get to you. Register the site through e-mail, using a fake name/address and mail in a money order. If you are running a server at home, then you will blow any obfuscation. If you are using someone else's server and renting space on it, then you can make this work easier.

Unless you become party to high-profile criminal charges by some grandstanding fed, then you have little risk of being bothered in person either.
However, obscuring your location by administering your server remotely (POTS line, modem, laptop) and never giving out your real name will go a long way, even if some "wanna be famous" judge/lawyer team wants to go after you.

They might try to e-mail you, but if you never give out your address (and do NOT run your site from home or a single location that you frequent), then they can not serve you with any papers/warrants or even arrest you.

However, they may go after your provider. In that case, Sealand is probably the safest from that lawyer hack. There may be others, check around and stay anonymous.

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The URL http://hacksdmi.org/hackDownload.asp returns this screen:
You need to agree to the Terms and Conditions before continuing.

Page source here:

<html>
<head>
<title>Download/Upload Page</title>
<LINK REL=stylesheet HREF="css.css" TYPE="text/css">
</head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

<body>

<p>You need to agree to the Terms and Conditions before continuing.</p>

</body>

</html>

They either fixed it after you posted or you always had to click through the terms.

But who cares, ignore it and have fun.

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This is the I-Opener (and other internet appliance) hacking BBS:
http://www.kenseglerdesigns.com/cgi-bin/UltraBoa rd/UltraBoard.pl

Searc around for display manufacturers and e-mail the people that ask questions about it.

They have found a source to upgrade I-Openers to touch screen for only $199. Might be something for you there.

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I'm sorry, but will you please pull your head out of your ass for a second so you can hear some sense?

1. I don't believe that you are sorry at all. 2. I do not believe that you should be prosecuted for being a rude person. 3. I have heard all of the "common sense" that i want to hear from people that want others prosecuted for expressing an opinion. I heard it from the so-called right in the 60's and 70's and now I am hearing it from the so-called left.

Whether the site incites people to violence is up for debate, but do you honestly think that its some liberal, atheist, or Satanic conspiracy to shut down the "message?" It doesn't seem more likely to you that they simply don't like the idea of someone keeping a public tally of who's been successfully killed, who we haven't gotten too yet, and who we almost got, but need to go back and finish off?

Conspiracy as in all of these people got together and said "here is our big secret plot to shut down those that do not believe what we do"? No, I certainly do not believe that in the slightest.

I do believe that the individuals involved in the court action, including the judge, were all of the same general belief that I have heard for a number of years around campuses, that the harm of words is in the eye of the harmed. They see the words in the message as the "harm" and do not want anybody saying or writing them.

Taking that to court would fly as well as another recent case, where an author of an "assassains" manual was taken to court as a conspirator to a murder. It did not fly, so these guys took another route, inventing "harm" from a strikethrough text entry.

This is just a twisted extention of that nonsense.

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For the defendant, it sure helps obfuscate that pesky jurisdiction problem!

"The first 4 characters of the command began while the plane was over TN, but the line was completed over Arkansas..."

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I can find out (unfiltered by the networks) all about the latest demonstration that I missed because work sent me to the other end of the country at the last possible moment!

Just have to figure out how to charge the connection fee to the contract without raising a flag...

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But the Attourney's General office in Michigan.

The same office that gave us the Michigan State Riot Tip Website "hack".

In that case, the State of Michigan had a website up for folks to give anonymous tips on who was rioting. However, all of the information was wide open to the public because the webmaster set it up that way.

BUT, the State said the site was "hacked" and were going to prosecute anybody that passed along the URL to the info.

Sorry, my bad, not an FBI thing this time.

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If this were a public warehouse that was only giving the appearance of some level of security, but in fact was leaving it's doors open all night with nobody bothering to check for intrusions, over months, they would be heald to some level of culpability themselves (along with the intruders).
EVEN if they had a piece of paper saying that they were not responsible.

Same goes with a mechanic that lets someone else drive off with your car (even if strangers just "borrow" it for a little while and you get it back).

Why does this have to be any different?

Until both the person messing with someone else's public server AND the owner of the server itself are heald accountable for their actions, this activity will not even begin to slow down.

Caviat: there is no telling if anybody accused even did anything in this story because the FBI is involved and they seem to skip over or invent "facts" as it suits them, ref. Kevin Mitnick damage assessment.

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linzeal is correct. There is no incitement anywhere in this document, therefore there should be no problem.

However, the problem lies with the people trying to shut the site down because they can not stand any criticism of abortion.

The document does describe abortion as murder. Perhaps this is the message that the folks bringing the charges actually wish to silence?

This topic was on 60 Minets (CBS Network TV) on 15 October, 2000. Another case was mentioned. Someone went to jail for parking a yellow Ryder moving truck in front of an abortion clinic. That was deemed some sort of implied "threat".

I certainly hope when the advocates for the doctors and the state, in both cases, manage to make someone "feel threatened" just because of what they are driving or a view that they hold, that those advocates will just turn themselves in at the local jail and save everybody the trouble of a trial.

There was no act of violence or threat of violence in either case and if you really want to get down to it, the only people, in either case, that were taking any life at all were the doctors when they killed the flesh of the fetus. Whether you consider that "murder", as the web site operators do, or if you just consider it a simple operation, as the doctors and patients do, the fact remains that the only people in these cases that actually destroyed a cell are the doctors.

If anybody actually wants to stop these doctors from being murdered, perhaps they should chase the murderers instead of the webmasters and truck renters?

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It began as something about Verizon forming as a telcom merger.

Any company that gets big pisses off Emmanuel of 2600, so 2600 bought the domain in question as a form protest. Not saying that in a mean way or anything, it is just the position Emmanuel usually takes on matters like this. I might call it a form of opinion voicing rather than "protest" and even though I would not go to these lengths on this particular issue, I believe Emmanuel should be allowed to do it without being messed with.

Then Verizon sent 2600 an official mean letter telling them that they would be the subject of legal action if they did not give up the domain.

Now, after examining all of the downsides to doing something this stupid, Verizon is backing off.

That's about it.

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Media being the press? Then the government has no business in there anyway. Here, let me quote from the US Constitution: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/const/bor.html
"Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

However, this looks more like the FCC ordering AOL to open up their SERVERS, not their protocol. In which case it still is none of the government's business, even if it is a merger case.

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I am VERY GLAD that Verizon appears to show some common sense in this area, since it is obviously not a case of squatting. It is a case of dissatisfaction.

Perhaps this is an instance where a legal department needs to give customer service a lesson?

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