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  1. Re: Tired... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1 · on Microsoft's Attempt To Convert Users From Windows XP Backfires

    Yeah, due to Apple's feelings of insecurity. That has the word 'security' embedded in it.

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    Waitress: Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it ...

  2. Re:my filter proposal by anarche · · Score: 1 · on Australian Government Delays Internet Filter Legislation

    What about the Google level filtering? I mean typing "kiddy porn" in the search engine wont get a link to uncle-toms-basement.com. If anything its just got companies selling filtering software.

    The filter wouldn't of changed the kiddy porn distribution one bit because I'd imagine that stuff would be done mostly peer-to-peer.

    Regardless of Govt, I think Google's done a fine job stopping what it can and that adding a filter on ISP's is quite redundant.

    I always thought this filter campaign was simply a legal thawte at privacy allowing the Govt later to scrutinize peoples access better.

    This is an excellent point. Here's my top 3 result of my google for kiddie porn:

    http://www.detritus.org/agency/kid_porn.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography
    http://www.efc.ca/pages/media/spectator.24may97c.html

    (possibly) malware, wiki, and a 13 year-old scaremongering article.

    Off to clean my cookies

  3. Baked beans are off. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1 · on Bill Would Declare Your Blog a Weapon

    or any other Web media 'to cause substantial emotional distress through "severe, repeated, and hostile" speech.'

    Ooh, the Vikings aren't going to like that.

  4. Re:They should have called Microsoft support. by Z00L00K · · Score: 1 · on Ballmer Beaten by Spyware
    Which brings me flashbacks from the early 90's when the only answer you could get from M$ was "Try to re-install".

    Nothing new here - please move along...

    So obviously there is a long way between reality and M$ Management. Considering all those commercials that M$ puts up right now about them "stopping viruses" and so on - It's on the level of almost being as good as a Monty Python play. Just consider that IE 6 (whet about earlier versions?) has been rated among the top-10 worst technologies provided to the public.

    And here is some more of our favourite subject SPAM :-) .

  5. Re:Monty Python by idontgno · · Score: 1 · on BlueSecurity Database Compromised?
    The spammers who are getting spammed are now spamming the spammer spammers.

    "Bloody Vikings!"

  6. Then there's Slashdot by RealProgrammer · · Score: 2, Funny · on Broadway Awards Spam
    That's loaded with spam.
    Wife: Have you got anything without spam?
    Waitress: Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
    Wife: I don't want ANY spam!
    Man: Why can't she have egg bacon spam and sausage?
    Wife: THAT'S got spam in it!
    Man: Hasn't got as much spam in it as spam egg sausage and spam, has it? it.
  7. Did the term "spam" by rdsmith4 · · Score: 1 · on Happy Spamiversary!
    actually come from MOnty python?

    This is the skit in question:

    Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam;

    Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...

    Waitress: ...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam...

    Vikings: Spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam!

    Waitress: ...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.

    (et cetera)...see the full script or the sound file.

  8. Did the term "spam" by rdsmith4 · · Score: 1 · on Happy Spamiversary!
    actually come from MOnty python?

    This is the skit in question:

    Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam;

    Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...

    Waitress: ...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam...

    Vikings: Spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam!

    Waitress: ...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.

    (et cetera)...see the full script or the sound file.

  9. Goes good with breakfast though... by Mr.+Foofy · · Score: 1 · on Celebrating Spam's Ten-Year Anniversary

    Of course if you don't like spam, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it. Then again, if you REALLY hate it...this is interesting... Fight Spam

  10. Re:Oh, almost forgot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Brad Templeton On Spam's Silver Anniversary

    Read other peoples' posts, or the original article.

    There's a Monty Python skit involving endless repetitions of the word "spam" as in the meat product, including a bunch of Vikings that drown everyone out by singing "spam, spam, spam, spam..."

    See here, among a few zillion other places.

    The derivation should then be obvious.

  11. Bothered by Spam? Blame Tolkien. by Merry_B.Buck · · Score: 1, Interesting · on Receive Spam, Make Money!
    At least, according to this timeline, we might need thank Tolkien for more than lembas. Intrigued by Google's USENET archive, I tried to hunt down the origin of the word "spam".

    EFF and Wired both give the party-line answer: the word derives from MUDs (Multi User Dungeons) of the late 80s to describe "unwanted stuff", and came from the Monty Python spam sketch.

    The USENET posts I found, though, flesh out the story a little. The origin seems tied specifically to TinyMUD, written by Jim Aspnes, inspired partly by Zork and earlier PDP-10/11 MUDs. TinyMUD was launched in August of 1989. TinyMUD's advantage over other MUDs was that visitors could not only wander around a dungeon (think "maze of twisty passages, all alike"), but they could also add new rooms and monsters on the fly.

    Searching USENET, it seems there were two meanings of the term "spam". One definition was based on people abusing the ability to add new objects to the TinyMUD world:
    • April 17, 1990, posted by Jon Blow:
      ...By this time, the wizards [dungeonmasters] had locked off a few areas that were just spam-for-the-senses...
    • June 27, 1990, posted by Vintage Mutant Ganja Technerd:
      For example, a delay of 5 to 10 seconds between object creations and logging in, will all do the trick of 'limiting' spamming without the juggling of quotas, login times, keeping track of hosts, et al.
    • October 4, 1990, posted by A Molitor:
      ...when you run a MUD advertised as having few or no rules, a MUD where you can do anything, players *will* spam it. This is not conjecture, but documented historical fact. Ask around about BloodMUD some time.

    However, the second meaning of the word, and the one that seemed to appear earlier in USENET, is the one that more closely resembles the meaning we use today:
    • From: Jon Blow (blojo@tornado.Berkeley.EDU)
      Subject: Re: Word wrap
      Newsgroups: alt.mud
      Date: 1990-01-22 23:18:55 PST
      Right now my entire adventure is formatted to be easy-readable in 80 columns. This is also a pain, since 1) It takes much longer for me to write it, and I constantly feel a loss of artistic quality when I am forced to reword so that a line will fit; 2) People with wordwrap must turn it OFF, or the adventure will look like Spam. Bummer.

    Other posts (and various MUD histories on the net) discuss the problem of MUD visitors who used various commands (most often the 'say' command) to fill other people's screens with unwanted text, thus scrolling more important things off the screen. The first place I found the word "spam" being applied to USENET posts themselves was here, related to a bot that accidentally regurgitated other posts in the news.admin.policy newsgroup.
    Since most MUD Histories attribute their rise to the fantasy genre of Tolkien (and to a lesser extent Dungeons and Dragons), don't forget to thank Middle-Earth (and 25-line CRTs) for 'spam' when you see the movie next week. There are doubtless other etymologies; I'm just basing this on the only evidence I found.

    As a side note, to Google employees the term "spam" refers not to unwanted email but rather to the underhanded tricks folks try to boost their search-engine rankings.
  12. Re:Take a favor . . . by GnrcMan · · Score: 1 · on Monty Python Turns 30

    Here is a taste of Monty Python. It's the Spam skit in Real Audio. One of their classic skits from Flying Circus. The movies are not to be missed either.

  13. Re:And 30 years later... by GnrcMan · · Score: 1 · on Monty Python Turns 30

    To celebrate: Cans of SPAM for all techies!