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  1. Re:Another First by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 1 · on Trent Reznor Challenges Music Norms

    He brought industrial music (or something like this) into the main stream.

    I would argue that Ministry did this before NIN (while Trent and Al work closely together on multiple projects...)

    Ministry's "Jesus Built My Hotrod" single (1991) was the biggest selling single in the year of it's release. This is long before Closer (off of The Downward Spiral - 1994) began to gain momentum with the club crowd.

    Having said all that, both NIN and MINISTRY rock. If you like their music though - check out some others:
    :Wumpscut:
    Rammstein
    KMFDM
    Front Line Assembly
    Skinny Puppy
    Funker Vogt
    Front 242

    There are many more, for a great sampling try the streaming industrial audio found here:
    http://www.detroitindustrial.org/

  2. Rusty got it wrong - a rebuttal by detroitindustrial · · Score: 1 · on Latest Salvos in the Ongoing Battle Of Webcasting

    I posted a detailed rebuttal to the misinfornation, faulty conclusions and outright lies in Rusty Hodge's comments on the first Register article.

  3. Re:Erm, its a streaming service by mshiltonj · · Score: 2 · on Audiogalaxy Returns as Pay Service
    and $10 a month on top of 50 a month for broadband isn't worth it as long as there is still systems like Kazaa

    There's also these:

    If you know if any others in a similar vien, especially gothic or ambient, please let me know.
  4. An internet broadcaster's opinion by detroitindustrial · · Score: 5, Informative · on Copyright Office Publishes Final Webcasting Rates

    I run Detroit Industrial Underground. My station has a 20 simultaneous listener capacity, and I've been broacasting for 3.5 years. To give you an idea of the small scale of most internet broacasts, DIU is currently ranked 222 out of around 2800 stations on the Shoutcast directory for total time spend listening (TTSL).

    Some thoughts, based on what I've read here:

    Terrestrial radio stations with webcasts are as unhappy with these rates as internet broadcasters are, and they'll be lobbying against this as well.

    Some people have said that these rates won't apply to stations which only play non-RIAA material. While common sense would suggest that, it has not been proven yet, and common sense doesn't seem to apply to anything involving the RIAA and U.S. Congress.

    Ephemeral recordings are "temporary" recordings made solely for broadcast purposes. In the case of internet radio, they're referring to MP3s. In practice, its an excuse to add another 8.8% fee on top of the per listener per song $0.0007.

    Moving outside the U.S. won't save internet radio. U.S. based Broadcasters can be tracked through ISP's and billing relationships with hosting companies. Also, other countries have licensing bodies which are just as rapacious as the RIAA. In Canada, SOCAN is pushing Tariff 22, which imposes a $0.25 per unique listener per month fee. This adds up to more than the RIAA + BMI/ASCAP/SESAC fees, and forces listener tracking/subscriptions for auditing purposes. See the Stop Tariff 22 website for the details.

    The battle isn't lost yet. On the Shoutcast list, we're working on our response to this. In the meantine, check out Save Internet Radio and the Radio and Internet Newsletter. Finally, write your reps in Congress, and include your snail mail addresss so they know you're a constituent.