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"Back when Ellison was pushing for the Network Computer( NetPC) over 10 years ago it was a desktop appliance and WinTel was able to counter it with cheap hardware and discounted licensing and marketing programs which effectively killed it"

Intel was pushing the NetPC and it was Microsoft that acted to kill it ..
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"do you have a list of issues on this topic? we have a conference call with them (intel) re NetPC today at 9, and pending your response we can bring them up or try to stave off a little, but the latter isn't really a good choice - we're running out of time, as everyone is painfully aware. .. yup, it would be crazy to Intel define this .. the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed .. Note the flag below on the NetPC. we need to get cranking on this. I know it is difficult to do a spec until the sw work is crisply defined but having Intel draft this spec and take it to the industry will cause up more headaches in the long run if we don't get out in front." link

NC Attack Plan-"The NC is Dead"

"Halt the NC from making any noise in FY98. Though the NC has failed to live up to its early threat of mass PC replacement, we are actively tracking threatened accounts and monitoring and attacking the NC constituents (IBM, Sun, Oracle) with high level TCO and Windows messages. We are executing on a PR plan to expose the NC as "dead""

"Back when Ellison was pushing for the Network Computer( NetPC) over 10 years ago it was a desktop appliance and WinTel was able to counter it with cheap hardware and discounted licensing and marketing programs which effectively killed it"

Intel was pushing the NetPC and it was Microsoft that acted to kill it ..
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"do you have a list of issues on this topic? we have a conference call with them (intel) re NetPC today at 9, and pending your response we can bring them up or try to stave off a little, but the latter isn't really a good choice - we're running out of time, as everyone is painfully aware. .. yup, it would be crazy to Intel define this .. the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed .. Note the flag below on the NetPC. we need to get cranking on this. I know it is difficult to do a spec until the sw work is crisply defined but having Intel draft this spec and take it to the industry will cause up more headaches in the long run if we don't get out in front." link

NC Attack Plan-"The NC is Dead"

"Halt the NC from making any noise in FY98. Though the NC has failed to live up to its early threat of mass PC replacement, we are actively tracking threatened accounts and monitoring and attacking the NC constituents (IBM, Sun, Oracle) with high level TCO and Windows messages. We are executing on a PR plan to expose the NC as "dead""

billg: "should [SmartSuite] become an issue in our global relationship with IBM"

Kempin:"I am willing to do whatever it takes to kick them out." link

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0. People paid attention to the demo and were often supprised to our favor.

Steve positioned it as --OS/2 not "bad" but that from a performance and "robustness" standpoint, it is NOT better than Windows. We know the design point, we know what's in it'. link

"We all believe that fundamentally OS/2 with PM really is a better platform for a superior business applications .. making OS/2 the next generation operating system" link

"This market also contains many companies that will give us their total support in establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing" Sincerely, Wiliam H. Gates

OS/2 "Crush" Plan - Draft

"Microsoft abandoned their OS/2 customers and developers prior to us making OS/2 successful." link

Compaq will not license OS/2

billg: "should [SmartSuite] become an issue in our global relationship with IBM"

Kempin:"I am willing to do whatever it takes to kick them out." link

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0. People paid attention to the demo and were often supprised to our favor.

Steve positioned it as --OS/2 not "bad" but that from a performance and "robustness" standpoint, it is NOT better than Windows. We know the design point, we know what's in it'. link

"We all believe that fundamentally OS/2 with PM really is a better platform for a superior business applications .. making OS/2 the next generation operating system" link

"This market also contains many companies that will give us their total support in establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing" Sincerely, Wiliam H. Gates

OS/2 "Crush" Plan - Draft

"Microsoft abandoned their OS/2 customers and developers prior to us making OS/2 successful." link

Compaq will not license OS/2

billg: "should [SmartSuite] become an issue in our global relationship with IBM"

Kempin:"I am willing to do whatever it takes to kick them out." link

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0. People paid attention to the demo and were often supprised to our favor.

Steve positioned it as --OS/2 not "bad" but that from a performance and "robustness" standpoint, it is NOT better than Windows. We know the design point, we know what's in it'. link

"We all believe that fundamentally OS/2 with PM really is a better platform for a superior business applications .. making OS/2 the next generation operating system" link

"This market also contains many companies that will give us their total support in establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing" Sincerely, Wiliam H. Gates

OS/2 "Crush" Plan - Draft

"Microsoft abandoned their OS/2 customers and developers prior to us making OS/2 successful." link

Compaq will not license OS/2

billg: "should [SmartSuite] become an issue in our global relationship with IBM"

Kempin:"I am willing to do whatever it takes to kick them out." link

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0. People paid attention to the demo and were often supprised to our favor.

Steve positioned it as --OS/2 not "bad" but that from a performance and "robustness" standpoint, it is NOT better than Windows. We know the design point, we know what's in it'. link

"We all believe that fundamentally OS/2 with PM really is a better platform for a superior business applications .. making OS/2 the next generation operating system" link

"This market also contains many companies that will give us their total support in establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing" Sincerely, Wiliam H. Gates

OS/2 "Crush" Plan - Draft

"Microsoft abandoned their OS/2 customers and developers prior to us making OS/2 successful." link

Compaq will not license OS/2

billg: "should [SmartSuite] become an issue in our global relationship with IBM"

Kempin:"I am willing to do whatever it takes to kick them out." link

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0. People paid attention to the demo and were often supprised to our favor.

Steve positioned it as --OS/2 not "bad" but that from a performance and "robustness" standpoint, it is NOT better than Windows. We know the design point, we know what's in it'. link

"We all believe that fundamentally OS/2 with PM really is a better platform for a superior business applications .. making OS/2 the next generation operating system" link

"This market also contains many companies that will give us their total support in establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing" Sincerely, Wiliam H. Gates

OS/2 "Crush" Plan - Draft

"Microsoft abandoned their OS/2 customers and developers prior to us making OS/2 successful." link

Compaq will not license OS/2

billg: "should [SmartSuite] become an issue in our global relationship with IBM"

Kempin:"I am willing to do whatever it takes to kick them out." link

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0. People paid attention to the demo and were often supprised to our favor.

Steve positioned it as --OS/2 not "bad" but that from a performance and "robustness" standpoint, it is NOT better than Windows. We know the design point, we know what's in it'. link

"We all believe that fundamentally OS/2 with PM really is a better platform for a superior business applications .. making OS/2 the next generation operating system" link

"This market also contains many companies that will give us their total support in establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing" Sincerely, Wiliam H. Gates

OS/2 "Crush" Plan - Draft

"Microsoft abandoned their OS/2 customers and developers prior to us making OS/2 successful." link

Compaq will not license OS/2

"No, Excel won because it was very much better"

Then why did Microsoft have to expend so much energy in killing Lotus 1-2-3 ..

"Why was Lotus told that the shell would not be OLE enabled when In fact it is? Why was Lotus not given earlier warning if there was a change of plan? We're still lacking useful documentation on OLE in the shell - is there any"?

"OLE Forms are a counterpart to OLE controls and a cornerstone of the Cairo user interface architecture. We were recently informed by a Microsoft employee that responsibility for development of this operating system feature has been transfered to the Microsoft Office applications group."

"I'd be glad to help tilt lotus into into the death spiral"

"No, Excel won because it was very much better"

Then why did Microsoft have to expend so much energy in killing Lotus 1-2-3 ..

"Why was Lotus told that the shell would not be OLE enabled when In fact it is? Why was Lotus not given earlier warning if there was a change of plan? We're still lacking useful documentation on OLE in the shell - is there any"?

"OLE Forms are a counterpart to OLE controls and a cornerstone of the Cairo user interface architecture. We were recently informed by a Microsoft employee that responsibility for development of this operating system feature has been transfered to the Microsoft Office applications group."

"I'd be glad to help tilt lotus into into the death spiral"

"No, Excel won because it was very much better"

Then why did Microsoft have to expend so much energy in killing Lotus 1-2-3 ..

"Why was Lotus told that the shell would not be OLE enabled when In fact it is? Why was Lotus not given earlier warning if there was a change of plan? We're still lacking useful documentation on OLE in the shell - is there any"?

"OLE Forms are a counterpart to OLE controls and a cornerstone of the Cairo user interface architecture. We were recently informed by a Microsoft employee that responsibility for development of this operating system feature has been transfered to the Microsoft Office applications group."

"I'd be glad to help tilt lotus into into the death spiral"

"Hewlett-Packard Co. used to be known as a place where innovative thinkers flocked to work on great ideas that opened new frontiers in technology"

Was I in some parallel universe when this was happening?

"Like HP, Dell missed the trends that have turned selling PCs into one of technology's least profitable and slowest growing niches."

The only trend Dell, like HP were following was the directive from MS to not enter other markets, as MS perceived such as stealing their own market share. As far as MS is concerned the OEMs are just the delivery people. That's why companies with no contractual relationship with MS were able to expand into the mobile market.

"MS will pay SCP $10,000 upon signing of this agreement Payment of the initial fee described in Paragaph 2(c), above and royalties called for under this Agreement shall be due within 45 days of the date MS invoices their customer for the product for which the initial fee or royalty is due" link

"We are on the verge of a purely HTML/JavaScript client world. Or we would be, if it weren't for mobile pushing us back to client-side development"

We would be except Microsoft killed the NetPC and Microsoft doesn't have the same influence in the mobile space to do the same thing.

"On the NetPC - Pat thinks we are being slow to follow-up and get the spec's out, and he is telling his guys to go ahead and start drafting .. the NC attack plan .. We have been closely monitoring, attacking, and winning NC threatened accounts"

It's inexplicable, the file has the same serial number yet the contents are totally different.

Demonstrate NTServer as THE Internet platform

Demonstrate NTServer as THE Internet platform

PX04264.pdf

PX04264.pdf

"On the other hand, they didn't try to use their NCSA Mosaic patents to kill-off Netscape Navigator, so maybe they'll behave", cpu6502

What NCSA Mosaic patents, MS didn't have any patents or a browser which is why it first approached NCSA for an exclusive license, then MS approached Netscape and only then got a license from Spyglass. They promised Spyglass a royalty for every version sold and the proceeded to give away the co-branded browser as Internet Explorer. Spyglass later on sued Microsoft and then went out of business. The below is a sample of how Microsoft went about `netscaping' Netscape ..

"Clone their client technology early and often (full embrace strategy)" link, Oct 1995

"PSD needs to get serious about cloning Netscape" link

"As Netscape comes into the industry .. They've been making lots of changes to JavaScript. We think they should document that", BillG 1996

"On the other hand, they didn't try to use their NCSA Mosaic patents to kill-off Netscape Navigator, so maybe they'll behave", cpu6502

What NCSA Mosaic patents, MS didn't have any patents or a browser which is why it first approached NCSA for an exclusive license, then MS approached Netscape and only then got a license from Spyglass. They promised Spyglass a royalty for every version sold and the proceeded to give away the co-branded browser as Internet Explorer. Spyglass later on sued Microsoft and then went out of business. The below is a sample of how Microsoft went about `netscaping' Netscape ..

"Clone their client technology early and often (full embrace strategy)" link, Oct 1995

"PSD needs to get serious about cloning Netscape" link

"As Netscape comes into the industry .. They've been making lots of changes to JavaScript. We think they should document that", BillG 1996

"The state claims it impractical to release the original electronic versions of the e-mails"

What they should do is, print them out, then scan them back in as images, then save as PDFs under randomly generated file names, similar to what Microsoft did in the Comes v. Microsoft antitrust case.

An interesting piece of alternative history, in the real world the record has this to say:

"We are pursuing a strategy to keep WordPerfect on the defensive. In effect, this means acting like we are still the "trailer" and explicitly calling them out with aggressive switcher tactics" link

"In an email dated October 3, 199, however, Bill Gates ordered his top executives to retract the documentation of the browsing extensions, but only until Microsoft’s own developers of the Office suite of applications had sufficient time to work with the hidden extensions to build an insurmountable advantage over competitors such as WordPerfect" link

"I have decided that we should not publish these extensions. We should wait until we have a way to do a high level of integration that will be harder for likee of Notes, Wordperfect to achieve, and which will give Office a real advantage" link

"When I read the section beginning at paragraph 92, for example, about Microsoft deliberately making Word incompatible with WordPerfect" link

An interesting piece of alternative history, in the real world the record has this to say:

"We are pursuing a strategy to keep WordPerfect on the defensive. In effect, this means acting like we are still the "trailer" and explicitly calling them out with aggressive switcher tactics" link

"In an email dated October 3, 199, however, Bill Gates ordered his top executives to retract the documentation of the browsing extensions, but only until Microsoft’s own developers of the Office suite of applications had sufficient time to work with the hidden extensions to build an insurmountable advantage over competitors such as WordPerfect" link

"I have decided that we should not publish these extensions. We should wait until we have a way to do a high level of integration that will be harder for likee of Notes, Wordperfect to achieve, and which will give Office a real advantage" link

"When I read the section beginning at paragraph 92, for example, about Microsoft deliberately making Word incompatible with WordPerfect" link

From: Bill Gates

Cc: Bob Muglia

"I am reading about the Gateway adoption of the Corel software. I am interested to understand what this means better and how it relates to any contracts we have with them". link

"Why would the Office group be giving out the Office 2000 formats to competitors? To me this seems crazy" link

"One thing we have got to change is our strategy — allowing Office documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the most destructive things we could do to the company.

We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.

"Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has to doing something to destroy Windows.

"I would be glad to explain at greater length.

"Likewise this love of DAV in Office/Exchange is a huge problem. I would also like to make sure people understand this as well. link

From: Bill Gates

Cc: Bob Muglia

"I am reading about the Gateway adoption of the Corel software. I am interested to understand what this means better and how it relates to any contracts we have with them". link

"Why would the Office group be giving out the Office 2000 formats to competitors? To me this seems crazy" link

"One thing we have got to change is our strategy — allowing Office documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the most destructive things we could do to the company.

We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.

"Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has to doing something to destroy Windows.

"I would be glad to explain at greater length.

"Likewise this love of DAV in Office/Exchange is a huge problem. I would also like to make sure people understand this as well. link

From: Bill Gates

Cc: Bob Muglia

"I am reading about the Gateway adoption of the Corel software. I am interested to understand what this means better and how it relates to any contracts we have with them". link

"Why would the Office group be giving out the Office 2000 formats to competitors? To me this seems crazy" link

"One thing we have got to change is our strategy — allowing Office documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the most destructive things we could do to the company.

We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.

"Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has to doing something to destroy Windows.

"I would be glad to explain at greater length.

"Likewise this love of DAV in Office/Exchange is a huge problem. I would also like to make sure people understand this as well. link

Depends on your definition of 'compete` and apparently ingesting too many chemicals at the time that has caused you long term amnesia. In this case MS definition of 'compete' is to engulf the competing product and suck every last morsel of real innovation out of it, similarly to how a squid eviscerates its next dinner. The below extract is just one of many beautifully illustrating how they do 'business' out of Redmond:
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"Geoview is a gui that runs on top of MS-DOS for low end systems. It is more of a competitive issue for Windows (and Works) than DOS .. I suggested that someone on the technical side call Robert Smith at Phoenix in Norwood who has in depth technical knowledge of this product and is willing to share it"

"We need data on this product ASAP, it is about to scoop Works on a major deal, in going through the mass merch channel this fall if we do not kill it have we gotten a copy of it and done any evaluation?" link

" It would great if we could get our hands on Jaguar. Joachim and Jeremy are harassing Atari and Amstrad respectively to get them to send us a copy" link

"the way to shut out novell in the base is to either ship a full client or make it so there is no network connectivity " link

"I an reading about the Gateway adoption of the Corel software. I am interested to understand what this means better and how it relates to any contracts we have with them link

Depends on your definition of 'compete` and apparently ingesting too many chemicals at the time that has caused you long term amnesia. In this case MS definition of 'compete' is to engulf the competing product and suck every last morsel of real innovation out of it, similarly to how a squid eviscerates its next dinner. The below extract is just one of many beautifully illustrating how they do 'business' out of Redmond:
--

"Geoview is a gui that runs on top of MS-DOS for low end systems. It is more of a competitive issue for Windows (and Works) than DOS .. I suggested that someone on the technical side call Robert Smith at Phoenix in Norwood who has in depth technical knowledge of this product and is willing to share it"

"We need data on this product ASAP, it is about to scoop Works on a major deal, in going through the mass merch channel this fall if we do not kill it have we gotten a copy of it and done any evaluation?" link

" It would great if we could get our hands on Jaguar. Joachim and Jeremy are harassing Atari and Amstrad respectively to get them to send us a copy" link

"the way to shut out novell in the base is to either ship a full client or make it so there is no network connectivity " link

"I an reading about the Gateway adoption of the Corel software. I am interested to understand what this means better and how it relates to any contracts we have with them link

Depends on your definition of 'compete` and apparently ingesting too many chemicals at the time that has caused you long term amnesia. In this case MS definition of 'compete' is to engulf the competing product and suck every last morsel of real innovation out of it, similarly to how a squid eviscerates its next dinner. The below extract is just one of many beautifully illustrating how they do 'business' out of Redmond:
--

"Geoview is a gui that runs on top of MS-DOS for low end systems. It is more of a competitive issue for Windows (and Works) than DOS .. I suggested that someone on the technical side call Robert Smith at Phoenix in Norwood who has in depth technical knowledge of this product and is willing to share it"

"We need data on this product ASAP, it is about to scoop Works on a major deal, in going through the mass merch channel this fall if we do not kill it have we gotten a copy of it and done any evaluation?" link

" It would great if we could get our hands on Jaguar. Joachim and Jeremy are harassing Atari and Amstrad respectively to get them to send us a copy" link

"the way to shut out novell in the base is to either ship a full client or make it so there is no network connectivity " link

"I an reading about the Gateway adoption of the Corel software. I am interested to understand what this means better and how it relates to any contracts we have with them link

Depends on your definition of 'compete` and apparently ingesting too many chemicals at the time that has caused you long term amnesia. In this case MS definition of 'compete' is to engulf the competing product and suck every last morsel of real innovation out of it, similarly to how a squid eviscerates its next dinner. The below extract is just one of many beautifully illustrating how they do 'business' out of Redmond:
--

"Geoview is a gui that runs on top of MS-DOS for low end systems. It is more of a competitive issue for Windows (and Works) than DOS .. I suggested that someone on the technical side call Robert Smith at Phoenix in Norwood who has in depth technical knowledge of this product and is willing to share it"

"We need data on this product ASAP, it is about to scoop Works on a major deal, in going through the mass merch channel this fall if we do not kill it have we gotten a copy of it and done any evaluation?" link

" It would great if we could get our hands on Jaguar. Joachim and Jeremy are harassing Atari and Amstrad respectively to get them to send us a copy" link

"the way to shut out novell in the base is to either ship a full client or make it so there is no network connectivity " link

"I an reading about the Gateway adoption of the Corel software. I am interested to understand what this means better and how it relates to any contracts we have with them link

"I think we should have to do even more cloning .. of Netscape", Oct 1995

"PSD needs to get serious about cloning Netscape .. We will bind the shell to the Internet Explorer so that running any other browser is a jolting experience", Nov 1995

"I would NOT phrase the survey, or other things only in terms of "put the browser in the OS .. Instead you need to ask a more neutral question about how the internet technology needs to merge with local computing", Feb 1996

"INTERNET EXPLORER: Unless specifically requested to the contrary by the end user of the Customer System and provided proper translation is available, COMPANY will ship MS Internet Explorer 2.0, and the most current subsequent higher version Product Releases and Version Releases thereof, preinstalled on all new Customer Systems which are validated and released for shipment by COMPANY after April 1, May 1996"

"I think we should have to do even more cloning .. of Netscape", Oct 1995

"PSD needs to get serious about cloning Netscape .. We will bind the shell to the Internet Explorer so that running any other browser is a jolting experience", Nov 1995

"I would NOT phrase the survey, or other things only in terms of "put the browser in the OS .. Instead you need to ask a more neutral question about how the internet technology needs to merge with local computing", Feb 1996

"INTERNET EXPLORER: Unless specifically requested to the contrary by the end user of the Customer System and provided proper translation is available, COMPANY will ship MS Internet Explorer 2.0, and the most current subsequent higher version Product Releases and Version Releases thereof, preinstalled on all new Customer Systems which are validated and released for shipment by COMPANY after April 1, May 1996"

"I think we should have to do even more cloning .. of Netscape", Oct 1995

"PSD needs to get serious about cloning Netscape .. We will bind the shell to the Internet Explorer so that running any other browser is a jolting experience", Nov 1995

"I would NOT phrase the survey, or other things only in terms of "put the browser in the OS .. Instead you need to ask a more neutral question about how the internet technology needs to merge with local computing", Feb 1996

"INTERNET EXPLORER: Unless specifically requested to the contrary by the end user of the Customer System and provided proper translation is available, COMPANY will ship MS Internet Explorer 2.0, and the most current subsequent higher version Product Releases and Version Releases thereof, preinstalled on all new Customer Systems which are validated and released for shipment by COMPANY after April 1, May 1996"

"OS/2 promptly ate my partition table and destroyed all my DVX, windows and dos partitions", by juuri

"This market also contains many companies that will give us their total support in establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing. If we harness this support with a series of great products and great marketing, OS/2 will win", billg 1989

"I was super enthustiac that we shipped OS/2 , SteveO"

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect '

'In the Mopping Up phase, Evangelism's goal is to put the final nail into the competing technology's coffin, and bury it in the burning depths of the earth. Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in,

"he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2." Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever. make the complete failure of the competition's technology part of the mythology of the computer industry', Microsoft Evangelist 2000

"OS/2 promptly ate my partition table and destroyed all my DVX, windows and dos partitions", by juuri

"This market also contains many companies that will give us their total support in establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing. If we harness this support with a series of great products and great marketing, OS/2 will win", billg 1989

"I was super enthustiac that we shipped OS/2 , SteveO"

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect '

'In the Mopping Up phase, Evangelism's goal is to put the final nail into the competing technology's coffin, and bury it in the burning depths of the earth. Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in,

"he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2." Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever. make the complete failure of the competition's technology part of the mythology of the computer industry', Microsoft Evangelist 2000

"OS/2 promptly ate my partition table and destroyed all my DVX, windows and dos partitions", by juuri

"This market also contains many companies that will give us their total support in establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing. If we harness this support with a series of great products and great marketing, OS/2 will win", billg 1989

"I was super enthustiac that we shipped OS/2 , SteveO"

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect '

'In the Mopping Up phase, Evangelism's goal is to put the final nail into the competing technology's coffin, and bury it in the burning depths of the earth. Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in,

"he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2." Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever. make the complete failure of the competition's technology part of the mythology of the computer industry', Microsoft Evangelist 2000

"I wonder why their acquisition of SuSE and the interoperability initiative with Microsoft didn't change their fortunes..."

Because Microsoft stole Novells customer base from Windows95 onwards. Basically by duplicating Netware functionality and being less than co-operative in giving Novell access to technical information. That they failed to suceed with SuSE owes a lot to bad management. The Microsoft deal being the end game as far as Novell ever becoming a serious player again.

"I wonder why their acquisition of SuSE and the interoperability initiative with Microsoft didn't change their fortunes..."

Because Microsoft stole Novells customer base from Windows95 onwards. Basically by duplicating Netware functionality and being less than co-operative in giving Novell access to technical information. That they failed to suceed with SuSE owes a lot to bad management. The Microsoft deal being the end game as far as Novell ever becoming a serious player again.

"I wonder why their acquisition of SuSE and the interoperability initiative with Microsoft didn't change their fortunes..."

Because Microsoft stole Novells customer base from Windows95 onwards. Basically by duplicating Netware functionality and being less than co-operative in giving Novell access to technical information. That they failed to suceed with SuSE owes a lot to bad management. The Microsoft deal being the end game as far as Novell ever becoming a serious player again.

"I wonder why their acquisition of SuSE and the interoperability initiative with Microsoft didn't change their fortunes..."

Because Microsoft stole Novells customer base from Windows95 onwards. Basically by duplicating Netware functionality and being less than co-operative in giving Novell access to technical information. That they failed to suceed with SuSE owes a lot to bad management. The Microsoft deal being the end game as far as Novell ever becoming a serious player again.

"I wonder why their acquisition of SuSE and the interoperability initiative with Microsoft didn't change their fortunes..."

Because Microsoft stole Novells customer base from Windows95 onwards. Basically by duplicating Netware functionality and being less than co-operative in giving Novell access to technical information. That they failed to suceed with SuSE owes a lot to bad management. The Microsoft deal being the end game as far as Novell ever becoming a serious player again.

OpenOffice isn't the real threat, as internal documents directly from Microsoft show. Linux is seen as such a threat that there is a special program aimed at keeping it off the desktop. This program is known as EDGI - Education Government Incentive.

A cross-group team has been working for the last two weeks on a proposal to have a more planned response process to defend against Linux ..

It is important to note that there are two major issues that need to be solved.

1. How to best help developing countries jumpstart the establishment of an effective educational infrastructure that can leverage the benefits of technology

2. How to effectively win against the no-cost/low-cost competitor in large government deals (i.e. "Don't lose to Linux"). This proposal is squarely aimed at the second issue, although there is considerable overlap between the two ..

Funding
Since these opportunities are largely tied back to winning in a specific competitive environment (Linux and StarOffice) we are proposing a $50MM (approx. 5% of VTW Education revenue) fund ..

The claims of removing Gimp are just smoke and noise to hid the damage the monomaniacs are doing elsewhere in Debian and Ubuntu.

Microsofters always try to present their schemes as a done deal. It's documented in their bag of tricks. The relevant trick is from plaintiff's exhibit 3096 from the court case Comes v Microsoft. Microsoft appeared prepared to ignore the last state, Iowa, indefinitely in the last unresolved class action case for over-charging. Roll down to page 45 and start reading. Or download the song version.

Regardles, Ubuntu 10.4, Lucid Lynx is just starting. There are several channels through which the mistake can be corrected. One is through brainstorm: Idea #110: No Mono by default in Ubuntu can use your vote.

"While the Microsoft investment was important for Apple, it had nothing to do with money. The main thing Apple got out of the deal was Microsoft's commitment to continue Office on the Mac"

Actually MS threatened to cancel Office on the Mac unless they stopped shipping competing product like ClarisWorks.

"The threat of cancelling Mac Office 97 is certainly the strongest bargaining point we have, as doing so will do a great deal of harm to Apple immediately"

"There is simply no hard evidence that Microsoft is abusing its monopoly to crush Linux on netbooks"

'The very next day, Asus' chairman, Jonney Shih, after sharing a news conference stage with Microsoft corporate VP, OEM Division, Steven Guggenheimer, apologized for the Android Eee PC being shown'

Microsofts Walmart/Linux Taskforce

'We invest big, big $$ in Dell .. we be quite prescriptive in our investments with Dell relative to the competitive threats we see with Linux .. we constantly benchmark ourselves against the actions they do with RedHat'

'A cross-group team has been working for the last two weeks on a proposal to have a more planned response process to defend against Linux and other low-cost/no-cost competitors in large education/government deals in both developed and developing subs'

"There is simply no hard evidence that Microsoft is abusing its monopoly to crush Linux on netbooks"

'The very next day, Asus' chairman, Jonney Shih, after sharing a news conference stage with Microsoft corporate VP, OEM Division, Steven Guggenheimer, apologized for the Android Eee PC being shown'

Microsofts Walmart/Linux Taskforce

'We invest big, big $$ in Dell .. we be quite prescriptive in our investments with Dell relative to the competitive threats we see with Linux .. we constantly benchmark ourselves against the actions they do with RedHat'

'A cross-group team has been working for the last two weeks on a proposal to have a more planned response process to defend against Linux and other low-cost/no-cost competitors in large education/government deals in both developed and developing subs'

"If OS/2 had been released even as late as 1992, Microsoft would have been unable to compete with its technical superiority. We would have OS/2 and not Windows. A lot of things would have happened very differently... the delay in OS/2 was a significant historical cusp"

I thought OS/2 was a joint IBM Microsoft project, according to this document Ballmer was enthusiastic that we shipped OS/2, at least until the divorce when he went on the road to demo OS/2, 'crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0'

"If OS/2 had been released even as late as 1992, Microsoft would have been unable to compete with its technical superiority. We would have OS/2 and not Windows. A lot of things would have happened very differently... the delay in OS/2 was a significant historical cusp"

I thought OS/2 was a joint IBM Microsoft project, according to this document Ballmer was enthusiastic that we shipped OS/2, at least until the divorce when he went on the road to demo OS/2, 'crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0'

"It probably wasn't intentional, most likely.."

Yea, lets give them the benefit of the doubt, after all in the entire history of the company they never once sabotaged the technology to shaft a competitor, especially one that relies on their technology.

"Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java language"

'Windows NT, OS/2 2.0 including a "bad app" that corrupted other applications and crashed the system'

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0'

"It probably wasn't intentional, most likely.."

Yea, lets give them the benefit of the doubt, after all in the entire history of the company they never once sabotaged the technology to shaft a competitor, especially one that relies on their technology.

"Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java language"

'Windows NT, OS/2 2.0 including a "bad app" that corrupted other applications and crashed the system'

'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0'

Microsoft gets wind of the 'Cloud Manifesto' gets hold of the document and preemptively trashes it in public. See here where Microsoft acted to innovate Intel out of the NetPC business.

'if we don't dive right in with something, Intel will undoubtedly be happy to dictate terms to us ,-))'

'They did 2 things that amaze me: a) They kept the NC specification around despite saying they would not. b) They snuck in a server specification .. Marshall and I told him the only way for us to participate in the release is if: 1) No NC mention in any specification '

I guess the next move for Microsoft is to join the consortium and sabotage it from the inside ,-)

Microsoft gets wind of the 'Cloud Manifesto' gets hold of the document and preemptively trashes it in public. See here where Microsoft acted to innovate Intel out of the NetPC business.

'if we don't dive right in with something, Intel will undoubtedly be happy to dictate terms to us ,-))'

'They did 2 things that amaze me: a) They kept the NC specification around despite saying they would not. b) They snuck in a server specification .. Marshall and I told him the only way for us to participate in the release is if: 1) No NC mention in any specification '

I guess the next move for Microsoft is to join the consortium and sabotage it from the inside ,-)

'it'll sit unsupported for 10 years before IBM admits that it's a dead product (OS/2 case in point)'

OS/2 was technologically superior to Windows and would have succeeded if MS hadn't have gone round trashing it in public, while still contracted to develop and support it.

'I was super enthusiast that we shipped OS/2'

OS/2 "Crush" plan

The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect'