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Microsoft bribery/stock referrals
Oct 1991: "Use MS stock as an incentive for recommendation/referral program. Each referral purchase is rewarded with share/fraction of share. Use direct mail to get the message out."
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Intel could have been first in mobile space except
Intel could have been first in mobile space, except for Microsoft repeatidly leaning on them to stick to making chips for the IBM PC, that would be IBM, 'the PC company' as they referred to them in internal emails:
March 1994: "IBM has a LOTUS NOTES .. We have entered another round of "partnership" talks with the PC company and mentioned this as an issue, but they claim thay can't fix this for us."
Dec 1996: "we have a conference call with them (intel) re NetPC today at 9 .. yup, it would be crazy to Intel define this the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed."
Oct 1997: "I have a critical meeting with Intel a week from Wednesday. I want to convince them that they need to stay away from Oracle NCs and work more closely with Microsoft."
Nov 1997: "IBM refused to big anything related to Backoffice. I said they to use their PCs to distribute things against us. I said they are dabbing in NCs in a way we don't like .. Overall we wil never have the same relationship with IBM that we have with Compaq, Dell and even HP because of their software ambitions .. On their side I mean JAVA and NC."
Nov 1997: "Intel .. did 2 things that amaze me: They kept the NC specification around despite saying they would not .. They snuck in a server specification. There is some failure in communication"
Nov 2001: "I think we will have to live without a Chinese wall clause for the front end of the compiler .. If we don’t get Intel off of Linux internally (the failed EDA project) – we will never get the *cultural* alignment that we want' -
Intel could have been first in mobile space except
Intel could have been first in mobile space, except for Microsoft repeatidly leaning on them to stick to making chips for the IBM PC, that would be IBM, 'the PC company' as they referred to them in internal emails:
March 1994: "IBM has a LOTUS NOTES .. We have entered another round of "partnership" talks with the PC company and mentioned this as an issue, but they claim thay can't fix this for us."
Dec 1996: "we have a conference call with them (intel) re NetPC today at 9 .. yup, it would be crazy to Intel define this the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed."
Oct 1997: "I have a critical meeting with Intel a week from Wednesday. I want to convince them that they need to stay away from Oracle NCs and work more closely with Microsoft."
Nov 1997: "IBM refused to big anything related to Backoffice. I said they to use their PCs to distribute things against us. I said they are dabbing in NCs in a way we don't like .. Overall we wil never have the same relationship with IBM that we have with Compaq, Dell and even HP because of their software ambitions .. On their side I mean JAVA and NC."
Nov 1997: "Intel .. did 2 things that amaze me: They kept the NC specification around despite saying they would not .. They snuck in a server specification. There is some failure in communication"
Nov 2001: "I think we will have to live without a Chinese wall clause for the front end of the compiler .. If we don’t get Intel off of Linux internally (the failed EDA project) – we will never get the *cultural* alignment that we want' -
Intel could have been first in mobile space except
Intel could have been first in mobile space, except for Microsoft repeatidly leaning on them to stick to making chips for the IBM PC, that would be IBM, 'the PC company' as they referred to them in internal emails:
March 1994: "IBM has a LOTUS NOTES .. We have entered another round of "partnership" talks with the PC company and mentioned this as an issue, but they claim thay can't fix this for us."
Dec 1996: "we have a conference call with them (intel) re NetPC today at 9 .. yup, it would be crazy to Intel define this the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed."
Oct 1997: "I have a critical meeting with Intel a week from Wednesday. I want to convince them that they need to stay away from Oracle NCs and work more closely with Microsoft."
Nov 1997: "IBM refused to big anything related to Backoffice. I said they to use their PCs to distribute things against us. I said they are dabbing in NCs in a way we don't like .. Overall we wil never have the same relationship with IBM that we have with Compaq, Dell and even HP because of their software ambitions .. On their side I mean JAVA and NC."
Nov 1997: "Intel .. did 2 things that amaze me: They kept the NC specification around despite saying they would not .. They snuck in a server specification. There is some failure in communication"
Nov 2001: "I think we will have to live without a Chinese wall clause for the front end of the compiler .. If we don’t get Intel off of Linux internally (the failed EDA project) – we will never get the *cultural* alignment that we want' -
Intel could have been first in mobile space except
Intel could have been first in mobile space, except for Microsoft repeatidly leaning on them to stick to making chips for the IBM PC, that would be IBM, 'the PC company' as they referred to them in internal emails:
March 1994: "IBM has a LOTUS NOTES .. We have entered another round of "partnership" talks with the PC company and mentioned this as an issue, but they claim thay can't fix this for us."
Dec 1996: "we have a conference call with them (intel) re NetPC today at 9 .. yup, it would be crazy to Intel define this the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed."
Oct 1997: "I have a critical meeting with Intel a week from Wednesday. I want to convince them that they need to stay away from Oracle NCs and work more closely with Microsoft."
Nov 1997: "IBM refused to big anything related to Backoffice. I said they to use their PCs to distribute things against us. I said they are dabbing in NCs in a way we don't like .. Overall we wil never have the same relationship with IBM that we have with Compaq, Dell and even HP because of their software ambitions .. On their side I mean JAVA and NC."
Nov 1997: "Intel .. did 2 things that amaze me: They kept the NC specification around despite saying they would not .. They snuck in a server specification. There is some failure in communication"
Nov 2001: "I think we will have to live without a Chinese wall clause for the front end of the compiler .. If we don’t get Intel off of Linux internally (the failed EDA project) – we will never get the *cultural* alignment that we want' -
Intel killing ability to choose best in breed :]
@Anonymous Coward: "That's part of the issue - they don't want to be just the CPU maker. They want to control and possibly integrate on the chip network, video and higher level components under their control. Effectively killing the ability to choose best in breed or external but upgradable network and video and more."
Is that you billg ;] ..
"We have to make sure that Office documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities" billg
"I have a critical meeting with Intel a week from Wednesday. I want to convince them that they need to stay away from Oracle NCs and work more closely with Microsoft." billg
.. "our plans continue to underestimate the importance of an OPEN unified approach for the internet. The demo I saw today when Windows 95 was showing its Internet capability was someone calling up the Fedex page on the internet and typing in a package number and getting the status. Imagine how much work it would have been for Fedex to call us up and get that running on MSN and negociate with us. Instead they just set it up. A very simple way to reach out to their customers." billg -
Intel killing ability to choose best in breed :]
@Anonymous Coward: "That's part of the issue - they don't want to be just the CPU maker. They want to control and possibly integrate on the chip network, video and higher level components under their control. Effectively killing the ability to choose best in breed or external but upgradable network and video and more."
Is that you billg ;] ..
"We have to make sure that Office documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities" billg
"I have a critical meeting with Intel a week from Wednesday. I want to convince them that they need to stay away from Oracle NCs and work more closely with Microsoft." billg
.. "our plans continue to underestimate the importance of an OPEN unified approach for the internet. The demo I saw today when Windows 95 was showing its Internet capability was someone calling up the Fedex page on the internet and typing in a package number and getting the status. Imagine how much work it would have been for Fedex to call us up and get that running on MSN and negociate with us. Instead they just set it up. A very simple way to reach out to their customers." billg -
Intel and the personal contribution platform...
I don't think Intel is going to be allowed to interject themselves into the customer boot experience
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'* NC & Java are platform challenges: - possible emergence of a set of API's and underlying system software that lead to lesser or no role for Windows' ref
"it would be crazy to Intel define this .. the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed." ref
'No NC mention in any specification .. Pat agreed to remove the words "Network Computer" from the spec' ref -
Intel and the personal contribution platform...
I don't think Intel is going to be allowed to interject themselves into the customer boot experience
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'* NC & Java are platform challenges: - possible emergence of a set of API's and underlying system software that lead to lesser or no role for Windows' ref
"it would be crazy to Intel define this .. the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed." ref
'No NC mention in any specification .. Pat agreed to remove the words "Network Computer" from the spec' ref -
Intel and the personal contribution platform...
I don't think Intel is going to be allowed to interject themselves into the customer boot experience
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'* NC & Java are platform challenges: - possible emergence of a set of API's and underlying system software that lead to lesser or no role for Windows' ref
"it would be crazy to Intel define this .. the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed." ref
'No NC mention in any specification .. Pat agreed to remove the words "Network Computer" from the spec' ref -
Intel and the personal contribution platform...
I don't think Intel is going to be allowed to interject themselves into the customer boot experience
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'* NC & Java are platform challenges: - possible emergence of a set of API's and underlying system software that lead to lesser or no role for Windows' ref
"it would be crazy to Intel define this .. the only urgent issue I can think of is defining how it boots, if we let Intel do this in a proprietary way we're screwed." ref
'No NC mention in any specification .. Pat agreed to remove the words "Network Computer" from the spec' ref -
MS success due to its API
@GerryGilmore: 'There was NO "UNIX API" as MS had, hence their subsequent success'
.. That and sabotaging Windows to not run other peoples software and keeping the API calls undocumented.
Microsoft's Allegedly Undocumented APIs - Comes v. Microsoft
'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect' -
Re:The entire OS/2 2.0 fiasco
March 1989: "Nearly four years have elapsed since the initiation of our Joint Development Agreement
.. Now, we need to focus on .. establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing."
Aug 1988: "I think we need to think very carefully about how much we want Windows to compete with OS/2 in the OEM channel and for the ISVs attention".
"In December, OS/2 shipped initially from IBM .. I was super enthusiastic that we shipped OS/2"
June 1991: "I have written a PM app that hangs the system (sometimes quite graphically). You can take a look at it anytime, just let me know Eric"
July 1991: 'SteveB went on the road to see the top weeklies, industry analysts and business press this week to give our systems strategy. The meetings included demos of Windows 3.1 (pen and multimedia included), Windows NT, OS/2 2.0 including a performance comparison to Windows and a “bad app” that corrupted other applications and crashed the system'
"The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect" -
Re:The entire OS/2 2.0 fiasco
March 1989: "Nearly four years have elapsed since the initiation of our Joint Development Agreement
.. Now, we need to focus on .. establishing OS/2 as the next standard in personal computing."
Aug 1988: "I think we need to think very carefully about how much we want Windows to compete with OS/2 in the OEM channel and for the ISVs attention".
"In December, OS/2 shipped initially from IBM .. I was super enthusiastic that we shipped OS/2"
June 1991: "I have written a PM app that hangs the system (sometimes quite graphically). You can take a look at it anytime, just let me know Eric"
July 1991: 'SteveB went on the road to see the top weeklies, industry analysts and business press this week to give our systems strategy. The meetings included demos of Windows 3.1 (pen and multimedia included), Windows NT, OS/2 2.0 including a performance comparison to Windows and a “bad app” that corrupted other applications and crashed the system'
"The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect" -
Hadoop has failed says ex Microsoftie
'"I can't find a happy Hadoop customer. It's sort of as simple as that," says Bob Muglia, CEO of Snowflake Computing, which develops and runs a cloud-based relational data warehouse offering' slashdot
Here's Bob Muglia while at Microsoft describing how to 'add additional semantics' to Outlook, that is perform a detailed analysis of Lotus Notes and then clone it into Outlook.
"Notes/Domino R5 is very scary. We all saw the demo. Exchange has worked with teams around the company to put together a very detailed analysis of the R5 betas and the hints they expose on their future direction.", Eric Lockard
"we will probably need to add additional semantics to the Outlook/CDO object model to enable easy conversion of Notes apps onto our solution", Bob Muglia -
Hadoop has failed says ex Microsoftie
'"I can't find a happy Hadoop customer. It's sort of as simple as that," says Bob Muglia, CEO of Snowflake Computing, which develops and runs a cloud-based relational data warehouse offering' slashdot
Here's Bob Muglia while at Microsoft describing how to 'add additional semantics' to Outlook, that is perform a detailed analysis of Lotus Notes and then clone it into Outlook.
"Notes/Domino R5 is very scary. We all saw the demo. Exchange has worked with teams around the company to put together a very detailed analysis of the R5 betas and the hints they expose on their future direction.", Eric Lockard
"we will probably need to add additional semantics to the Outlook/CDO object model to enable easy conversion of Notes apps onto our solution", Bob Muglia -
Re:That old trick again?
Anonymous coward: 'How the fuck is this bullshit modded "insightful"?'
Because this bullshit happens to be true as unlike the windows API, it has been fully documented elsewhere. Here's billg and the rest of the crew in their own words, reads like something out of the Sopranos.
Comes vs Microsoft
Microsoft's dirty tricks archive vanishes
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Browsers and screen resolution
Resolution is a function of the underlying Operating System. The only way Edge browser would play at full resolution and not the others is if Windows was designed detect the running browser and reduce resolution if not running Edge.
"Microsoft claimed Microsoft Edge was built to take advantage of platform features in Windows 10"
In other words, and yet again Micosoft made sure to undocument certain API calls that makes viewing media on other browsers a "jolting experience". Or as in another example shifting the text 30 pixels to the left on detecting Opera, therefore rendering the text as slightly jagged. Of course the blame is entirely down to Opera for not following Microsoft industry standards. -
Anyone have fond members of OS/2?
July 1991: 'SteveB went on the road to see the top weeklies, industry analysts. The meetings included demos of Windows 3.1 (pen and multimedia included), Windows NT, OS/2 2.0 including a performance comparison to Windows and a "bad app" that corrupted other applications and crashed the system".'
'The demos of OS/2 were excellent, crashing the system had the intended effect -- to FUD OS/2 2.0. People paid attention to this demo and were often suprised to our favor. Steve positioned it as -- OS/2 is not "bad" but from a performance and "robustness" standpoint, it is NOT better than Windows.' ref
OS/2 is still alive ref
The day Bill Gates screamed IBM's house down -
updating to the downgrade
"Microsoft knew ahead of time the update would cause problems for some users but decided to do nothing about it."
Have you given serious consideration to the thought that they deliberately caused KB3133977 to fail to enthuse users to upgrade to Windows 10. If this strikes you as being a little paranoid, MS did exactly this, as in causing Windows apps to crash on OS/2, causing windows clients to not play nice with Netware ref ref and throwing up an error when Windows 3.1 was installed under DR-DOS.
"As Windows 7 does not support Secure Boot, with the update of KB3133977"
How does 'upgrading' an OS cause it to lose functionality? -
updating to the downgrade
"Microsoft knew ahead of time the update would cause problems for some users but decided to do nothing about it."
Have you given serious consideration to the thought that they deliberately caused KB3133977 to fail to enthuse users to upgrade to Windows 10. If this strikes you as being a little paranoid, MS did exactly this, as in causing Windows apps to crash on OS/2, causing windows clients to not play nice with Netware ref ref and throwing up an error when Windows 3.1 was installed under DR-DOS.
"As Windows 7 does not support Secure Boot, with the update of KB3133977"
How does 'upgrading' an OS cause it to lose functionality? -
updating to the downgrade
"Microsoft knew ahead of time the update would cause problems for some users but decided to do nothing about it."
Have you given serious consideration to the thought that they deliberately caused KB3133977 to fail to enthuse users to upgrade to Windows 10. If this strikes you as being a little paranoid, MS did exactly this, as in causing Windows apps to crash on OS/2, causing windows clients to not play nice with Netware ref ref and throwing up an error when Windows 3.1 was installed under DR-DOS.
"As Windows 7 does not support Secure Boot, with the update of KB3133977"
How does 'upgrading' an OS cause it to lose functionality? -
Re:What would we do without Bill Gates!
An Inside Look at how Microsoft got XP on the XO
"Remember that a key part of our strategy is to create a situation where even if Nick rejects us for philosophical reasons there is a long as visible history of our attempts to work with them and then we have to ask to get a license for the "open source hardware" and we will make our own offering on the commercial side." ref
“Geez, get a decent computer where you can actually read the text and you’re not sitting there cranking the thing while you’re trying to type.” ref
'Halt the NC from making any noise in FY98 .. We are executing on a PR plan to expose the NC as "dead"' ref
'They kept the NC specification around despite saying they would not .. There is some failure in communication.' -
Re:What would we do without Bill Gates!
An Inside Look at how Microsoft got XP on the XO
"Remember that a key part of our strategy is to create a situation where even if Nick rejects us for philosophical reasons there is a long as visible history of our attempts to work with them and then we have to ask to get a license for the "open source hardware" and we will make our own offering on the commercial side." ref
“Geez, get a decent computer where you can actually read the text and you’re not sitting there cranking the thing while you’re trying to type.” ref
'Halt the NC from making any noise in FY98 .. We are executing on a PR plan to expose the NC as "dead"' ref
'They kept the NC specification around despite saying they would not .. There is some failure in communication.' -
We certainly ripped some stuff off?
They succeeded by ripped stuff mostly from Lotus, and creating undocumentated APIs that would give Excel an advantage under Windows and giving MS developers preferential access to OCX APIs and paying people to destroy their Lotus 123 System Disks
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We certainly ripped some stuff off?
They succeeded by ripped stuff mostly from Lotus, and creating undocumentated APIs that would give Excel an advantage under Windows and giving MS developers preferential access to OCX APIs and paying people to destroy their Lotus 123 System Disks
:) -
We certainly ripped some stuff off?
They succeeded by ripped stuff mostly from Lotus, and creating undocumentated APIs that would give Excel an advantage under Windows and giving MS developers preferential access to OCX APIs and paying people to destroy their Lotus 123 System Disks
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The first Windows that was an operating system?
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The first Windows that was an operating system?
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The first Windows that was an operating system?
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The way to shut out novell ..
"if we are too rude in base then oems may either stick with win3.1/msdos or defect to os/2. the way to shut out novell in the base is to either ship a full client or make it so there is no network connectivity." ref
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Extreme hack No. 1: ATM hacking
"Most automated teller machines (ATMs) contain a computer that runs a popular OS, so it should come as no shock that they can be hacked. For the most part, this means Microsoft Windows"
Nothing to disagree with so far ..
"ATM OSes often include an implementation of Java, one of the most bug-filled, hackable software products the world has ever known"
Only when run on top of Microsoft Windows. Sun Microsoft Systems were under the delusion that they owned Java. Originally designed to be a write-once-run-anywhere technology. At least before Microsoft innovated a Java Language Council(excluding Sun), took control of Java (JFC) and licensed it back to Sun (AFC) :) ref
Years later Oracle acquired Suns interest in Java and sued Google for including Java API calls in Android. Curiously enough Microsoft is 'licensing' patented Android technology to the handset manufacturers and Oracle isn't going after Microsoft. -
Extreme hack No. 1: ATM hacking
"Most automated teller machines (ATMs) contain a computer that runs a popular OS, so it should come as no shock that they can be hacked. For the most part, this means Microsoft Windows"
Nothing to disagree with so far ..
"ATM OSes often include an implementation of Java, one of the most bug-filled, hackable software products the world has ever known"
Only when run on top of Microsoft Windows. Sun Microsoft Systems were under the delusion that they owned Java. Originally designed to be a write-once-run-anywhere technology. At least before Microsoft innovated a Java Language Council(excluding Sun), took control of Java (JFC) and licensed it back to Sun (AFC) :) ref
Years later Oracle acquired Suns interest in Java and sued Google for including Java API calls in Android. Curiously enough Microsoft is 'licensing' patented Android technology to the handset manufacturers and Oracle isn't going after Microsoft. -
Joint IBM Microsoft Agreement ..
It was the clone market that actually handed MS control of the IBM PC, neither of which parties could have foreseen.
"IBM recognizes that MS will be licensing the MS Product Offering 1.1 to third parties".
Joint Development Agreement between International business Machines and Microsoft Corporation -
Microsoft and cross platform development?
"Microsoft is still extending its efforts into cross platform development" after spending much effort on making everything Windows only.
"It was creating a situation where pure 100% Java applications would look just as good as pure Windows applications which we have to avoid." ref
"possible emergence of a set of API's and underlying system software that lead to lesser or no role for Windows" ref
"How do we wrest control of Java away from Sun?" ref
"This summer we're going to totally divorce Sun" ref -
Microsoft and cross platform development?
"Microsoft is still extending its efforts into cross platform development" after spending much effort on making everything Windows only.
"It was creating a situation where pure 100% Java applications would look just as good as pure Windows applications which we have to avoid." ref
"possible emergence of a set of API's and underlying system software that lead to lesser or no role for Windows" ref
"How do we wrest control of Java away from Sun?" ref
"This summer we're going to totally divorce Sun" ref -
Microsoft and cross platform development?
"Microsoft is still extending its efforts into cross platform development" after spending much effort on making everything Windows only.
"It was creating a situation where pure 100% Java applications would look just as good as pure Windows applications which we have to avoid." ref
"possible emergence of a set of API's and underlying system software that lead to lesser or no role for Windows" ref
"How do we wrest control of Java away from Sun?" ref
"This summer we're going to totally divorce Sun" ref -
Microsoft and cross platform development?
"Microsoft is still extending its efforts into cross platform development" after spending much effort on making everything Windows only.
"It was creating a situation where pure 100% Java applications would look just as good as pure Windows applications which we have to avoid." ref
"possible emergence of a set of API's and underlying system software that lead to lesser or no role for Windows" ref
"How do we wrest control of Java away from Sun?" ref
"This summer we're going to totally divorce Sun" ref -
Under NO circumstances lose against Linux
"Bottom line do our best to show the great value of our software to these customers and ensure we get paid for it under NO circumstances lose against Linux before ensuring we have used this program actively and in a smart way" ref.
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Microsoft EDGI ..
"Am in Redmond this week. Wanted to catch up with you, You might be aware of the work Bric team is doing on the proactive EDGI like proposal. Given the impact of Education market in India globally for us and the threats from Linux and piracy, I want to make this a big bet plan in India (post Novell – Sco and Trishul) ref.
"EDGI is a customer-focused program that is for circumstances (like the one you reference) where an education and/or government customer is going to purchase naked PC’S or PC’S w/Linux" ref -
Microsoft EDGI ..
"Am in Redmond this week. Wanted to catch up with you, You might be aware of the work Bric team is doing on the proactive EDGI like proposal. Given the impact of Education market in India globally for us and the threats from Linux and piracy, I want to make this a big bet plan in India (post Novell – Sco and Trishul) ref.
"EDGI is a customer-focused program that is for circumstances (like the one you reference) where an education and/or government customer is going to purchase naked PC’S or PC’S w/Linux" ref -
Why Linux kernel responds False ..
From: Bill Gates
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 8:41 AM
To: Jeff Westorinen; Ben Fathi
Cc: Carl Stork (Exchange); Nathan Myhrvold; Eric Rudder
Subject: ACPI extensions
"One thing I find myself wondering about is whether we shouldn't try and make the "ACPI" extensions somehow Windows specific.
It seems unfortunate if we do this work and get our partners to do the work and the results is that Linux works great without having to do the work.
Maybe there is no way to avoid this problem but it does bother me.
Maybe we could define the APIs so that they work well with NT and not the others even if they are open.
Or maybe we could patent something related to this."
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A possible bug in Foxconn boards BIOS affects Linux ACPI
Foxconn Does Hate Linux Support -
Microsoft Education ©
"Gates' vision - a wave of smartphones that can act as ubiquitous, cheap computers"
The sterility of the 'vision' is quite staggering in its banality. I guess that's the reason Microsoft (and Intel) helping the OLPC project didn't turn out so well:
One Laptop Per Child - Production Delays Caused By Microsoft, Intel?
Intel: doing the dirty on OLPC
Education Government Incentive program
"We recognize the critical importance of helping emerging markets build healthy and legal PC ecosystems and clearly the answer is having Windows be a core component."
"Until all the details of the program have been developed, it is important that we have a way to address large PC purchases that involve low-cost/no-cost competitors in the education (and Government) sectors, especially in emerging markets." -
Netscape was crushed by Internet Explorer?
"Netscape Navigator: The first successful consumer Web browser, it was later crushed by Microsoft's Internet Explorer "
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Only because Microsoft sabotaged Navigator on Windows, mainly by extending the protocols and cloning Netscape eg. a full embrace strategy and excluding them from the development program and implementing a common Netscape/Corel attack group
"What kind of date do we have about how much software companies pay Netscape? In particular I am curious about their deals with Corel, Lotus and Intuit" -
Netscape was crushed by Internet Explorer?
"Netscape Navigator: The first successful consumer Web browser, it was later crushed by Microsoft's Internet Explorer "
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Only because Microsoft sabotaged Navigator on Windows, mainly by extending the protocols and cloning Netscape eg. a full embrace strategy and excluding them from the development program and implementing a common Netscape/Corel attack group
"What kind of date do we have about how much software companies pay Netscape? In particular I am curious about their deals with Corel, Lotus and Intuit" -
Netscape was crushed by Internet Explorer?
"Netscape Navigator: The first successful consumer Web browser, it was later crushed by Microsoft's Internet Explorer "
..
Only because Microsoft sabotaged Navigator on Windows, mainly by extending the protocols and cloning Netscape eg. a full embrace strategy and excluding them from the development program and implementing a common Netscape/Corel attack group
"What kind of date do we have about how much software companies pay Netscape? In particular I am curious about their deals with Corel, Lotus and Intuit" -
Netscape was crushed by Internet Explorer?
"Netscape Navigator: The first successful consumer Web browser, it was later crushed by Microsoft's Internet Explorer "
..
Only because Microsoft sabotaged Navigator on Windows, mainly by extending the protocols and cloning Netscape eg. a full embrace strategy and excluding them from the development program and implementing a common Netscape/Corel attack group
"What kind of date do we have about how much software companies pay Netscape? In particular I am curious about their deals with Corel, Lotus and Intuit" -
Netscape was crushed by Internet Explorer?
"Netscape Navigator: The first successful consumer Web browser, it was later crushed by Microsoft's Internet Explorer "
..
Only because Microsoft sabotaged Navigator on Windows, mainly by extending the protocols and cloning Netscape eg. a full embrace strategy and excluding them from the development program and implementing a common Netscape/Corel attack group
"What kind of date do we have about how much software companies pay Netscape? In particular I am curious about their deals with Corel, Lotus and Intuit" -
Netscape was crushed by Internet Explorer?
"Netscape Navigator: The first successful consumer Web browser, it was later crushed by Microsoft's Internet Explorer "
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Only because Microsoft sabotaged Navigator on Windows, mainly by extending the protocols and cloning Netscape eg. a full embrace strategy and excluding them from the development program and implementing a common Netscape/Corel attack group
"What kind of date do we have about how much software companies pay Netscape? In particular I am curious about their deals with Corel, Lotus and Intuit" -
Behind the scenes at the Microsoft Archives ..
Did they include these files
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