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Re:A disgrace to Finland
There is also another route.
Police blocking page gives link to law: http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/2006/20061068
In here there is link to "Valtiopäiväasiat": http://www.eduskunta.fi/valtiopaivaasiat/he+99/2006
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Re:A disgrace to Finland
And naturally, the results for legislation vote are not available online...
It is available- Go http://web.eduskunta.fi/
- Select Valtiopäiväasiat ja -asiakirjat
- Enter "HE 99/2006" to "Asian tunnus:" -field
- Press "Hae"
- Look "Ensimmäinen käsittely" (PTK 117/2006 vp)
- and look "Toinen käsittely" (PTK 117/2006 vp)
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Re:A disgrace to Finland
Well, what I did is that I went to Parliaments website, looked for the people who presented this legislation and supported it in the relevant comission. I then wrote a polite yet very stern email to each of them, explaining the flaws of the law and the error of their ways.
BTW. the MP's I wrote to are: Markku Laukkanen, Raimo Vistbacka, Saara Karhu, Erkki Pulliainen and Mikko Alatalo. here you can read the comments those people made during the first hearing on the new legislation. Another person to write to could be Sari Essayah, who supported the legislation here (what else can you expect from a fundie?). It should also be noted that Jyrki Kasvi strongly opposed the legislation.
Make your voice heard. And know who to vote. -
Re:A disgrace to Finland
Well, what I did is that I went to Parliaments website, looked for the people who presented this legislation and supported it in the relevant comission. I then wrote a polite yet very stern email to each of them, explaining the flaws of the law and the error of their ways.
BTW. the MP's I wrote to are: Markku Laukkanen, Raimo Vistbacka, Saara Karhu, Erkki Pulliainen and Mikko Alatalo. here you can read the comments those people made during the first hearing on the new legislation. Another person to write to could be Sari Essayah, who supported the legislation here (what else can you expect from a fundie?). It should also be noted that Jyrki Kasvi strongly opposed the legislation.
Make your voice heard. And know who to vote. -
Re:Delay voting
I don't know how common this is, but it's exactly the way Finnish system works. Each law is handled phases:
1. Preliminary debate, now decisions
2. Committees prepare the actual text
3. First reading in plenary session
- Amendments are voted in
4. At least 3 day pause
5. Second reading
- Wording cannot be changed, only accept/reject
6. Presidential ratification (accept/reject)
7. If rejected, third reading, accept/reject regardless of the president
Now try passing something under the radar through that.
There's a longer description on parliament's page at:
http://web.eduskunta.fi/Resource.phx/parliament/ab outparliament/legislativework.htx
There are some additional steps in special cases (in constitutional issues mainly). -
Detailed information here!
List how the MP's voted is here.
Of note:
- Everyone in the Center Party voted for the law. 18 were not present in the vote
- In SDP, only two voted no, 37 voted yes. 7 were not present
- 9 Conservatives voted no, 25 voted yes. seven were not present.
- In Left Alliance, 11 voted no, 9 voted yes
- 8 Greens voted yes, 3 voted no
- In the Swedish party, everyone voted yes
Remember these results during the next election. -
finland and technology
their cultural and economic hegemony has allowed finland to advance technologically at a rate which silicon valley, working under the constraints of the US's social problems, simply cannot sustain. (not that i'm unhappy living where i do, i feel that accepting the challenges of american life can enrich, and waiting 3 months for the latest gizmo is a small price to pay for diversity and tolerance.)
further reading:
Finland and the Future of Europe
The Rise and Fall of the "Swedish Model" -
Actual text of the law
Nobody seems to have posted the actual law (RL 34:9a, HE 4/1999). Here it is (errors and stupidites in the translation are solely my fault, except for too long sentences):
Criminal Code chapter 34: Generally Dangerous Crimes
9 a : Causing danger for data processing
That, who to cause harm to data processing or to functioning of data or telecommunications system,
- prepares or makes available such computer program or series of programming instructions that is designed to endanger data processing or functioning of data or telecommunications system or to harm the information or programs contained in such system, or distributes such computer program or series or programming instructions or
- makes available instructions for making a computer program or series of programming instructions meant in point 1 or distributes such instructions,
must be convicted, if there is no other law indicating as severe or more severe punishment, of causing danger to data processing with fines or with imprisonment for maximum of two years.
The important point is that the virus code or instructions to make it must be distributed "to cause harm".
According to the background material of the new law it will still be legal to make a virus program if there is no intention to distribute it. By virus program the law means a program specificially and knowingly designed to be a computer virus. It does apply e.g. to programs designed for other purposes and that could have similar properties as virus programs (e.g. when misused). By instructions (point 2) one means "so detailed instructions that also a person with minimal knowledge of data processing can manufacture a virus". Unlike the old legislation, the new law does not require the virus to cause actual harm as a condition for punishment.
Forbidding to distribute instructions is a bit worrisome, IMHO. It will be for courts to decide wheter a detailed story on computer viruses by some computer magazine was written "to cause harm"... I hope, if it is ever going to happen, the courts will understand the phrase "to cause harm" strictly in favour of constitutionally proteced freedom of expression.
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Here's the text of the proposed lawThe Government's proposal is available on the Parliament's WWW site: click here. The URL is monstrous, and I'm afraid it may not be valid forever. However, if you speak Finnish, you should be able to find it by the code "HE 4/1999", or simply by searching for the text "virus".
Since Finnish is not yet one of the major languages of the world, here's my translation of the relevant section of the new law. I'm not a lawyer or a professional translator, and I'm especially ignorant of English legalese--my apologies for the inevitable errors here. Also, this is only the version proposed by the Government, and the law that was actually approved may be different.
Endangering data processing
Malicious intent is the most important point; the program can be anything harmful, not just a virus in the technical sense. Also, a guide to writing viruses will qualify.Who, with intent to harm data processing or the functioning of a data or telecommunications system,
1) produces or makes available a computer program or a series of program commands designed to endanger data processing or the functioning of a data or telecommunications system or to damage the data or programs included in such a system, or distributes such a computer program or series of program commands, or
2) makes available instructions to produce a computer program or a series of program commands that paragraph 1 applies to, or distributes such instructions,
must be sentenced, unless the act is punishable more or equally severely by other law, of endangering data processing to a fine or at most two years of imprisonment.
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Here's the text of the proposed lawThe Government's proposal is available on the Parliament's WWW site: click here. The URL is monstrous, and I'm afraid it may not be valid forever. However, if you speak Finnish, you should be able to find it by the code "HE 4/1999", or simply by searching for the text "virus".
Since Finnish is not yet one of the major languages of the world, here's my translation of the relevant section of the new law. I'm not a lawyer or a professional translator, and I'm especially ignorant of English legalese--my apologies for the inevitable errors here. Also, this is only the version proposed by the Government, and the law that was actually approved may be different.
Endangering data processing
Malicious intent is the most important point; the program can be anything harmful, not just a virus in the technical sense. Also, a guide to writing viruses will qualify.Who, with intent to harm data processing or the functioning of a data or telecommunications system,
1) produces or makes available a computer program or a series of program commands designed to endanger data processing or the functioning of a data or telecommunications system or to damage the data or programs included in such a system, or distributes such a computer program or series of program commands, or
2) makes available instructions to produce a computer program or a series of program commands that paragraph 1 applies to, or distributes such instructions,
must be sentenced, unless the act is punishable more or equally severely by other law, of endangering data processing to a fine or at most two years of imprisonment.