Someone is now missing a few decimals and I'm not saying it couldn't be me. But, Manhattan is 87 km2 which translates to 1,45 km2/GB, which is 1450000 m2/GB -> 1,45 m2/kB -> 1450 mm2/B so in decimal I think we get that times 0,64 for single digit so we have an area of 928 mm^2 or a square of 30 by 30 mm. Not exactly a tiny font. This is of course calculated with the time honored traditions of the hard disk makers where G probaly means 10^9. It could be that he meant to print it out in binary and actually also meant 2^30 which I think would mean a 12-by-12 mm square.
Bah, I'll see your analogy and raise. Kids these days have it so easy.
Back in my days we didn't have no fanzy-pants ESD-systems, no sire. And no one ever bothered to melt the ice on roads either. We were constantly skidding from October to May, I tell you. Later in the winter the going got easier when the snow walls alongside roads got high enough to lean on. And I tell you, we Finns even have more firearms at home than you Yankees, and still no one kicks down my door at night, not even the police. You know, the SWAT team here (we do have one in this country too, you know), those boys use an APC for transportation, not some sissy black vans.
Well, I guess these are just your regular cultural differences, so there you have it!
(Point, what point? I just like them analogies, that's all.)
It certainly won't end at the cabs, as around here in Finland they already pay the local MAFIA, sorry, Teosto, for the privilege of listening to the radio. The royalties are currently set at 32 euros/year, 42 if you also have a tv or other visual playback system. see http://www.teosto.fi/fi/taksit.html (in Finnish, sorry) They also have price lists for music in elderly homes, schools etc. Playing music in workplaces is covered, as is singing in the kindergarten and schools. You name it, we've got it. Not forgetting the spiritual side, churches are paying up also.
I'm anxiously waiting for the "whistling in shower" royalty payments.
I don't know how common this is, but it's exactly the way Finnish system works. Each law is handled phases: 1. Preliminary debate, now decisions 2. Committees prepare the actual text 3. First reading in plenary session
- Amendments are voted in 4. At least 3 day pause 5. Second reading
- Wording cannot be changed, only accept/reject 6. Presidential ratification (accept/reject) 7. If rejected, third reading, accept/reject regardless of the president
It's running Symbian so yes, you can write apps for it (c++:ish, That is to say, C++ with some special quirks). Symbian has existed since 1998 and is probably the most used operating system in smart phones. Then there is the open source Python interpreter by Nokia that is getting on quite nicely. Not native apps of course, but much more to my liking than Java. http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/pythonfors60/ There is still some subsystem support and standard libraries missing, but it is already useable. And running the Raccoon (Apache port for Symbian) with mod_python in that thing is really an eye-opener. http://research.nokia.com/research/projects/mobile -web-server/
I've got an older model, Ferrari 3000. It took Acer 2 months to fix the same problem with the screen and send the laptop back. It heats up like a barbeque party in hell (you just cannot keep it on your lap after using it for a while, the outer shell easily heats up to over 50 celsius.). After 1.5 years the hard disk gave up (not that suprising for a laptop drive). That's when I discovered that the rescue CD was broken. Acer promised to send me a new one for just 30 euros plus postage. I rescued the laptop with Ubuntu... Oh and the bluetooth module just broke down in september.
This is definitely not a top of the line brand, not even close.
That kind of sounds like my Nokia E70, or the PDA-lookalike E61. Granted I still have to scroll around a bit when viewing web pages, but at least there is a Symbian version of Python, Apache and mod_python available so I can make it do pretty much anything. And it does have all the other features you listed straight out of the box.
> People in this country want their cell phones to work anywhere in the country, not just in their > home city / state. If you couldn't take your cell into a neighboring country, would you think its > as valuable?
> You also ignore other things as well; landline phone is dirt cheap. I can call > nationally for free for $25 / month. Its my understanding this isn't the case in Europe.
Typically no. We're in process of getting rid of landline phones altogether and reserving them for ADSL use, or at least that is what a large telco's CEO stated last year.
You cannot get unlimited cell calls for $25 but you can get aroung 500 minutes and 100 SMS plan with it which is enough for me personally, but is of course far from unlimited.
This argument is getting a bit old. Yes, we've had two networks that cover the whole country for over 10 years now, and there really isn't any more people in Finland. We do have one or two network operators who only cover the densely populated areas, too.
> And as a side not, he's screwed if this article somehow becomes the top Google hit for his name. He could >pretty much forget ever working in his field again. Which, all things considered, is perfectly fine by me.
I think you guys are now exaggerating as much as he was. His comments sound pretty much the same as any other young Finn's at the moment, at least in semi-private talks. No one is actually suggesting genocide here as much as venting their anger at Israelis for seemingly deliberately killing four innocent people, one of whom happened to be one of us (and that is the main reason here). Signing off from a project associated with Israel feels natural to me, every one I know has already started to boycott Israelian products and in fact I just today noticed that the local supermarket had taken corn produced in Israel off the shelves.
This venting will not affect his changes of landing a job in Finland at all, I can assure you that. Maybe in the States, but not around here, we are not that politically correct yet. Maybe it's the fact that we don't have any nukes to lob around, I don't know, but "NUKE 'em" is pretty much the first thing to suggest if you are mad at some country for some reason or other. It does not carry any real meaning. And he did not say he was going to join the nazis but the Hizbollah. He referred to the Israeli soldiers as Nazis, there's a slight difference there.
OK, the vast majority of users use what comes installed. Go on and cry about MS tax or whatever but I'm fairly sure most users know what version of windows they use, now, seriously, go ask them what version of linux they should use to replace their windows.
Just a side note, I've got so many calls from friends and relatives' friends asking me to help them with their "Windows 97" it is not even funny anymore. So no, in my experience they do not have a clue what they are running.
So the calls are encrypted over the air, but the algorithm is weakened so that it is relatively easy to break. Inside the telco's network different rules of course apply .
And to continue the list above: 6. Price. 350 and this device looks like it can do all the things I usually use my 1500 laptop for in the evenings (checking tv program lists and news, that is), but without the 30 second boot time.
It's pretty easy, just send the license plate number as an SMS to the search service, and you get back the owner's name and home town. Then send these to the number search, and you get his GSM number. Now you are free to communicate... At least this is how it works in Finland. Not that I would do anything like that of course, using cell phone while driving being prohibited and all...
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>Well, it's been several years, and SET still >isn't implemented at any major e-commerce site >that I know of. The costs SET-compliant software >are huge. Well, maybe not on any major sites, but many smaller sites at least here in Europe are already using it. Lists by Visa and Mastercard.
Any Finns out there? Good, thought so. Anyhow, at least if you are a regular reader of Tietoviikko, do check out their way of addressing this issue before we have to actually read the article in printed form. They have on their web-site an article about this victory, which looks like it has been copied straight out of DVD CCA's press release. I hope we can send enough comments about it to get a bit less biased version printed. Sorry, article only in Finnish, and I don't think even Babelfish can get trough that.
I wish I could say the same. Well, the softmodem is a neat thing for sure, if they had delivered the connectivity kit for it (European version, you know). First it was promised to be delivered upon registration. Seven months and several mails about "stock problems" and still waiting. At least they confirmed I would not receive the CE 2.0 upgrade nor the additional memory.
I hope they'll just stick with products they can make at least adequatelly, like lightbulbs.
Oh well, at least I'm only on my second one, and the hinges are still holding. And I must say I do like it, and use it constantly.
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I call rule 34.
Someone is now missing a few decimals and I'm not saying it couldn't be me. But, Manhattan is 87 km2 which translates to 1,45 km2/GB, which is 1450000 m2/GB -> 1,45 m2/kB -> 1450 mm2/B so in decimal I think we get that times 0,64 for single digit so we have an area of 928 mm^2 or a square of 30 by 30 mm. Not exactly a tiny font. This is of course calculated with the time honored traditions of the hard disk makers where G probaly means 10^9. It could be that he meant to print it out in binary and actually also meant 2^30 which I think would mean a 12-by-12 mm square.
Bah, I'll see your analogy and raise. Kids these days have it so easy.
Back in my days we didn't have no fanzy-pants ESD-systems, no sire. And no one ever bothered to melt the ice on roads either. We were constantly skidding from October to May, I tell you. Later in the winter the going got easier when the snow walls alongside roads got high enough to lean on.
And I tell you, we Finns even have more firearms at home than you Yankees, and still no one kicks down my door at night, not even the police. You know, the SWAT team here (we do have one in this country too, you know), those boys use an APC for transportation, not some sissy black vans.
Well, I guess these are just your regular cultural differences, so there you have it!
(Point, what point? I just like them analogies, that's all.)
It certainly won't end at the cabs, as around here in Finland they already pay the local MAFIA, sorry, Teosto, for the privilege of listening to the radio. The royalties are currently set at 32 euros/year, 42 if you also have a tv or other visual playback system.
see http://www.teosto.fi/fi/taksit.html (in Finnish, sorry)
They also have price lists for music in elderly homes, schools etc. Playing music in workplaces is covered, as is singing in the kindergarten and schools. You name it, we've got it. Not forgetting the spiritual side, churches are paying up also.
I'm anxiously waiting for the "whistling in shower" royalty payments.
I don't know how common this is, but it's exactly the way Finnish system works. Each law is handled phases:
b outparliament/legislativework.htx
1. Preliminary debate, now decisions
2. Committees prepare the actual text
3. First reading in plenary session
- Amendments are voted in
4. At least 3 day pause
5. Second reading
- Wording cannot be changed, only accept/reject
6. Presidential ratification (accept/reject)
7. If rejected, third reading, accept/reject regardless of the president
Now try passing something under the radar through that.
There's a longer description on parliament's page at:
http://web.eduskunta.fi/Resource.phx/parliament/a
There are some additional steps in special cases (in constitutional issues mainly).
It's running Symbian so yes, you can write apps for it (c++:ish, That is to say, C++ with some special quirks)./ There is still some subsystem support and standard libraries missing, but it is already useable. And running the Raccoon (Apache port for Symbian) with mod_python in that thing is really an eye-opener. http://research.nokia.com/research/projects/mobile -web-server/
Symbian has existed since 1998 and is probably the most used operating system in smart phones.
Then there is the open source Python interpreter by Nokia that is getting on quite nicely. Not native apps of course, but much more to my liking than Java. http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/pythonfors60
I've got an older model, Ferrari 3000. It took Acer 2 months to fix the same problem with the screen and send the laptop back. It heats up like a barbeque party in hell (you just cannot keep it on your lap after using it for a while, the outer shell easily heats up to over 50 celsius.). After 1.5 years the hard disk gave up (not that suprising for a laptop drive). That's when I discovered that the rescue CD was broken. Acer promised to send me a new one for just 30 euros plus postage. I rescued the laptop with Ubuntu... Oh and the bluetooth module just broke down in september.
This is definitely not a top of the line brand, not even close.
That kind of sounds like my Nokia E70, or the PDA-lookalike E61. Granted I still have to scroll around a bit when viewing web pages, but at least there is a Symbian version of Python, Apache and mod_python available so I can make it do pretty much anything. And it does have all the other features you listed straight out of the box.
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> home city / state. If you couldn't take your cell into a neighboring country, would you think its
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I think that is referred as roaming around here. I believe my cell works pretty much everywhere in there world.
http://www.sonera.net/in/kuuluvuus_ulkomailla/ind
Ok, in the US coverage looks a bit spotty:
http://www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.pl?cc=us&n
http://www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.pl?cc=us&n
http://www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.pl?cc=us&n
> You also ignore other things as well; landline phone is dirt cheap. I can call
> nationally for free for $25 / month. Its my understanding this isn't the case in Europe.
Typically no. We're in process of getting rid of landline phones altogether and reserving them for ADSL use, or at least that is what a large telco's CEO stated last year.
You cannot get unlimited cell calls for $25 but you can get aroung 500 minutes and 100 SMS plan with it which is enough for me personally, but is of course far from unlimited.
Why don't you try packing 5 million citizens in California and still having around 98% coverage from two providers?
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http://mobileplaza.sonera.fi/matkapuhelin/kuuluvu
http://map3.centroid.fi/elisapeitto/mapa.php
This argument is getting a bit old. Yes, we've had two networks that cover the whole country for over 10 years now, and there really isn't any more people in Finland. We do have one or two network operators who only cover the densely populated areas, too.
> And as a side not, he's screwed if this article somehow becomes the top Google hit for his name. He could >pretty much forget ever working in his field again. Which, all things considered, is perfectly fine by me.
I think you guys are now exaggerating as much as he was. His comments sound pretty much the same as any other young Finn's at the moment, at least in semi-private talks. No one is actually suggesting genocide here as much as venting their anger at Israelis for seemingly deliberately killing four innocent people, one of whom happened to be one of us (and that is the main reason here). Signing off from a project associated with Israel feels natural to me, every one I know has already started to boycott Israelian products and in fact I just today noticed that the local supermarket had taken corn produced in Israel off the shelves.
This venting will not affect his changes of landing a job in Finland at all, I can assure you that. Maybe in the States, but not around here, we are not that politically correct yet. Maybe it's the fact that we don't have any nukes to lob around, I don't know, but "NUKE 'em" is pretty much the first thing to suggest if you are mad at some country for some reason or other. It does not carry any real meaning. And he did not say he was going to join the nazis but the Hizbollah. He referred to the Israeli soldiers as Nazis, there's a slight difference there.
Just a side note, I've got so many calls from friends and relatives' friends asking me to help them with their "Windows 97" it is not even funny anymore. So no, in my experience they do not have a clue what they are running.
Check for example http://www.gsm-security.net/faq/gsm-encryption.sht ml
So the calls are encrypted over the air, but the algorithm is weakened so that it is relatively easy to break. Inside the telco's network different rules of course apply .
And to continue the list above:
6. Price. 350 and this device looks like it can do all the things I usually use my 1500 laptop for in the evenings (checking tv program lists and news, that is), but without the 30 second boot time.
It's pretty easy, just send the license plate number as an SMS to the search service, and you get back the owner's name and home town. Then send these to the number search, and you get his GSM number. Now you are free to communicate...
At least this is how it works in Finland. Not that I would do anything like that of course, using cell phone while driving being prohibited and all...
>Well, it's been several years, and SET still >isn't implemented at any major e-commerce site >that I know of. The costs SET-compliant software >are huge. Well, maybe not on any major sites, but many smaller sites at least here in Europe are already using it. Lists by Visa and Mastercard.
Any Finns out there? Good, thought so. Anyhow, at least if you are a regular reader of Tietoviikko, do check out their way of addressing this issue before we have to actually read the article in printed form. They have on their web-site an article about this victory, which looks like it has been copied straight out of DVD CCA's press release. I hope we can send enough comments about it to get a bit less biased version printed. Sorry, article only in Finnish, and I don't think even Babelfish can get trough that.
I wish I could say the same. Well, the softmodem is a neat thing for sure, if they had delivered the connectivity kit for it (European version, you know). First it was promised to be delivered upon registration. Seven months and several mails about "stock problems" and still waiting. At least they confirmed I would not receive the CE 2.0 upgrade nor the additional memory.
I hope they'll just stick with products they can make at least adequatelly, like lightbulbs.
Oh well, at least I'm only on my second one, and the hinges are still holding. And I must say I do like it, and use it constantly.