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"It's all about cookies. Who wants a cookie??"

I want a cookie!. (38MB, .mpg), which is pretty much like what working in IT is like. And there's nothing like having an entire audience screaming at the top of its lungs :)

Actually, a few snippets from Live Infringement video (138MB, .mpg) might inspire some larval-stage geeks.

Show 'em the video of the Thimbletron sound check in the Live Infringement video (OK you'll have to edit out "The Fucking Moon" and the "Lunch" video bits for a school audience :), then show how they can build something with a bunch of thimbles and wires that (rather than playing sound samples) lights up LEDs. Any fourth grader could build it such a gadget using solderless connectors. For extra credit, remind the kids that those greeting cards with recordable messages are available in any drugstore, and work on the same principle.

Ultimately, IT is about building cool things out of less-cool things. Show them how to do that, and you win.

"It's all about cookies. Who wants a cookie??"

I want a cookie!. (38MB, .mpg), which is pretty much like what working in IT is like. And there's nothing like having an entire audience screaming at the top of its lungs :)

Actually, a few snippets from Live Infringement video (138MB, .mpg) might inspire some larval-stage geeks.

Show 'em the video of the Thimbletron sound check in the Live Infringement video (OK you'll have to edit out "The Fucking Moon" and the "Lunch" video bits for a school audience :), then show how they can build something with a bunch of thimbles and wires that (rather than playing sound samples) lights up LEDs. Any fourth grader could build it such a gadget using solderless connectors. For extra credit, remind the kids that those greeting cards with recordable messages are available in any drugstore, and work on the same principle.

Ultimately, IT is about building cool things out of less-cool things. Show them how to do that, and you win.

Shenzhou 11: Base this is Shenzhou 11. Shenzhou has landed. Jesus H. Christ Base, We're on the fucking moon. Over.

Base: Roger, Shenzhou, we copy you. We cannot believe you are on the fucking moon. Repeat: Cannot fucking believe it. Over.

The Fucking Moon

The only thing tastier than the Onion in print, is the Evolution Control Committee in MP3. )And nothing is obscure on Slashdot! Nothing!)

I want a cookie! (Evolution Control Committee, 37.2 MB, MP4 video)

If the last (and coolest) thing I do with my life commits "us Terrans" to serious levels of ongoing space and interplanetary exploration, it would be worth the effort (er, sacrifice).

What you said. All of it. With one addendum: Wouldn't it be even cooler to take advantage of the opportunity to do something that even balls-of-steel, goes-clank-when-he-walks, but Neil Armstrong didn't?

If the FCC doesn't like your speech (or the first image you hold in front of the camera :), what are they gonna do? Fly a team of goons over to Mars to arrest you? Hey, go right ahead! It'll force NASA's hand into sending a resupply ship, a return ship, and/or developing cheaper heavy lift vehicles! Win, win, win, and win!

Laugh for the day: The MP3 of what Armstrong could have done.

Use a solar-powered antenna to broadcast this on a HAM band. Once a month.

Then kick back and enjoy the FCC going into paroxysms of incoherent rage trying to shut down a pirate radio broadcaster who happens to have a transmitter on The Fucking Moon. (Sure, the FCC can pull your licnese, but it'll still have to divert half its budget into a followup lunar mission to shut the transmitter off!)

My favorite sample-based parody of all time: Dan Rather, as sampled by Evolution Control Committee, with backbeat from AC/DC -- Rocked by Rape. MP3s freely available at that link, as provided by the artist.

On a par with Negativland's "U2" album, or "The Motorcade Sped On". Bonus points to ECC for their suggestion, as part of the track, that the purpose of the exercise wasn't just to do the sampling, nor to mock mainstream media's sensationalistic take on everything, but that the listener had a responsibility to create his or her own version using the raw samples on the other side of the record.

But wake me when it beats Evolution Control Committee's divinely-inspired Rocked By Rape (4.1 megabytes, MP3)

But wake me when it beats Evolution Control Committee's divinely-inspired Rocked By Rape (4.1 megabytes, MP3)

THis is the unedited audio recording of the moon landing.

negativland's most famous (notorious) record featured samples of outtakes of a radio DJ, and a screwed-up cover of an old U2 record.

"Still, how can a sample-based music recording artist talk the incumbent owners of copyright into granting permission to use decent libraries of complex samples (that is, not just horn samples, drum samples, or anything else that one would normally think to put in modplug to build traditional music out of)?"

Good point. I think that a solution might involve these 2 good ideas (not mine): an equivalent to covering rights, where anyone can cover anyone's music, as long as they pay the writer's portion of the royalties, so that anyone can sample anything and pay some portion of royalties; if a recording goes out of print (ie unavailable) copyright should revert to the artist.

You might like to listen to this (which is an example of the type of sample-based music you initially mentioned).

On a similar note, a while back, The Evolution Control Committee did a remix of a speech by George Bush Sr. (during the Gulf War of the early 90's). At that same link, they have a spoof of the moon landing recording, and a mix of Dan Rather quotes over a sample from ACDC's Back in Black. Check them out. They're pretty funny.

You make a lot of good points but miss the primary point of the post you are replying to.

What it is that the RIAA has a stranglehold on is distribution. The internet provides an alternative method of distribution, and with p2p the band doesn't even need to pay for most of the bandwidth.

Word of Mouth is actually the best method of advertising. Advertisers try to start it but artificially it is difficult to reproduce. Giving away your album for free is a good way for an independent band to get recognition. Hey, the price is right so if I'm at all interested in the kind of music the band is making, why not check it out. If I like it, I'll tell my all my friends who I think would also like it, maybe even burn them a CD and give it to them to save them the time to download it themselves.

Another thing is that if a band/project is moderately popular before they sign with an RIAA label, they are going to have a lot more leverage than without that grassroots underground support.

And most full-time bands can barely afford rent, regardless of whether or not they are signed to an RIAA label. Maybe they could even insist on a contract that does not allow the label to charge them for payola, and even allows them to distribute songs of their choosing on p2p as an alternative method of advertising. That would save the band a lot of money from their royalties.

I wanted to say something about Negativland and The Evolution Control Committee but they haven't sold albums on the same order of magnitude as Top 40 bands, and dispite the fact that I find them infinately more interesting than Top 40 music, I would never expect mainstream Americans to appreciate their music.

Then again, I once said the same thing about Chumbawamba.

I must say I agree completely. I'm a bit of an audiophile with "eclectic" taste in music.

I managed to build up my (purchased) CD collection substantially with music I may have never discovered were it not for P2P. A search by genre or tracks I discover completely by accident are often a major source of titles for my wish-list. As someone who has pretty much completely abandoned radio, P2P is a great alternative.

Another one of my favorite uses for P2P collecting episodes of cancelled TV shows. A lot of great shows have not, and may not ever be released on DVD. Thanks to K-lite, I now have a full collection of Twin Peaks, Sifl and Olly, Invader Zim and others. (yes I know the first season of Twin Peaks is on DVD. unfortunately, years have passed with no plans to release any more.)

Here is a page describing a couple of the other more unusual uses for P2P, such as "napster bombs" and "napster nuggets.

I found a better, more direct link about the issue. Should have thought to look for their webpage before. Anyway, they have the letter from CBS posted on their page and their reply .(for those curious about what I meant in my other post)

I found a better, more direct link about the issue. Should have thought to look for their webpage before. Anyway, they have the letter from CBS posted on their page and their reply .(for those curious about what I meant in my other post)

i've had that 7" of the "whipped cream mixes" for a long time. i don't know if i think "rebel without a pause" or "by the time i get to arizona" is funnier.

evolution control committee made waves more recently by mixing clips from tom brokaw's newscasts, "back in black" by ac/dc, and some general ecc fun. you can check it out on their website here. they explain the trouble (threats) from cbs and offer mp3s at the bottom of the page. browse around for plenty of entertainment.

the all your base... karaoke songs are funny if you think all your base jokes are still funny.

ecc has been "culture jamming" for some time by mixing stuff up. and they (he) are from my town here, columbus, oh. strange are things that happen on a campus of 70,000 students.

i've had that 7" of the "whipped cream mixes" for a long time. i don't know if i think "rebel without a pause" or "by the time i get to arizona" is funnier.

evolution control committee made waves more recently by mixing clips from tom brokaw's newscasts, "back in black" by ac/dc, and some general ecc fun. you can check it out on their website here. they explain the trouble (threats) from cbs and offer mp3s at the bottom of the page. browse around for plenty of entertainment.

the all your base... karaoke songs are funny if you think all your base jokes are still funny.

ecc has been "culture jamming" for some time by mixing stuff up. and they (he) are from my town here, columbus, oh. strange are things that happen on a campus of 70,000 students.

Oh yeah, like nobody has been doing this for ages. Take The Evolution Control Committee and their 1994 mixtape Gunderphonic for example. You'll find Public Enemy mixes really well on top of Herb Alpert. Also: DJ Z-Trip.

• Dsico - Love Will Freak Us (Missy E - Get ur Freak On/Joy Division - Love will Tear Us Apart)
• Dsico - Two Turntables are Ice (Ice T - Check Your Game/Beck - Where It's At)
• Grange Hill Grammar (Nelly - Country Grammar/Theme From Grange Hill)
• We Dont Give A Damn About Our Friends (Adina Howard - Freak Like Me/Gary Numan & Tubeway Army - Are Friends Electric?)
• I Wanna Dance With Numbers (Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance with Somebody/Kraftwerk - Numbers/Computer World)

Besides mixing Public Enemy songs with Herb Alpert songs they've also been on the wrong side of some lawsuits from CBS regarding 5 minutes of remixing of Dan Rather's broadcast.

Besides mixing Public Enemy songs with Herb Alpert songs they've also been on the wrong side of some lawsuits from CBS regarding 5 minutes of remixing of Dan Rather's broadcast.

Of course, the Evolution Control Committee already did this on the 7" Whipped Cream Remixes. PE has a copy already in hand, or so I'm informed...

shh!!! don't give them any ideas. After all, this is the network that threatened the Evolution Control Committee with a lawsuit after they released their "Rocked By Rape" single. The song was a parody of Dan Rather on the evening news, setting re-arranged samples of Rather to a mixed sample of AC/DC's Back in Black. You can click here for the details.

Slightly offtopic... although related.. Using the same tactic of naming files as though they are popular songs, smaller artists can increase distribution by using a fake filename, but a real ID3 tag, so it shows the real song/artist name in an mp3 player. The pioneers of Napster Bombs are the Evolution Control Committee, who were also threatened by CBS for sampling Dan Rather in their song, Rocked by Rape. Anyway, check them out.

Slightly offtopic... although related.. Using the same tactic of naming files as though they are popular songs, smaller artists can increase distribution by using a fake filename, but a real ID3 tag, so it shows the real song/artist name in an mp3 player. The pioneers of Napster Bombs are the Evolution Control Committee, who were also threatened by CBS for sampling Dan Rather in their song, Rocked by Rape. Anyway, check them out.

Slightly offtopic... although related.. Using the same tactic of naming files as though they are popular songs, smaller artists can increase distribution by using a fake filename, but a real ID3 tag, so it shows the real song/artist name in an mp3 player. The pioneers of Napster Bombs are the Evolution Control Committee, who were also threatened by CBS for sampling Dan Rather in their song, Rocked by Rape. Anyway, check them out.

First napster bombs, and now crypto? The Evolution Control Committee is even cooler than I thought... :)