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Oh I'm sorry. This doesn't show his name? Or this? Seems like you are still full of shit and talking out your ass like a racsit with a tinfoil hat on.

Still waiting for you to produce that birth certificate from whatever country you say he IS from... or step out from under your bedsheet and burning cross. Whichever comes first.

It's not an opinion that he was born in the USA. It's a fact. I know it's a fact because it has been reported as such by every reputable source I have checked. His birth certificate looks pretty convincing too, wouldn't you say?

That would be one way to do it. Another would be to just link to the motherfucking birth certificate itself.

"No! no! We demand the version which is illegal to release! Demanding an impossible standard is the only way we can persist in our imaginings!"

Unfortunately, people who still believe that myth use the internet all too much.

A birth certificate from Hawaii.

You're kidding, right? It takes about .5 seconds to find that online. Here's one site that posted it, there are many others: http://fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg

If that's not enough, then about half the US population isn't going to meet your criteria ...

Taxpayers have repeatedly asked the candidate to establish his eligibility -- just the normal birth certificate, passport history, citizenship history. The campaign has repeatedly gone to court to have these requests dismissed on lack of standing. Seeing such normal citizenship documents hidden is unprecedented, particularly for a politician, but going to court to keep them hidden is the point which first caught my attention.

The citizenship questions are numerous and reasonable:

-- Obama's half-sister Maya also has a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, like the Kos/Factcheck document. She was admittedly born in Indonesia. (Hawaii COLBs are registrations, rather than actual hospital documents, and foreign births qualify.)

-- No record has been found of the hospital in Hawaii where he was born... no doctor, no nurses have stepped forward and said they were there. The birth announcement in a local newspaper listed an address, and neighbors say they don't remember such a family at that address. His sister Maya has claimed two different birth hospitals in Hawaii. The lack of witnesses is not conclusive, just strange. Releasing the normal documents would help clear it up.

-- The campaign's fightthesmears.com website still says that at one time he held British citizenship, which seems to conflict with the office's requirement for "natural-born citizenship":
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

-- June 2008 an Associated Press reporter photographed Obama's school record in Indonesia. It listed him as a citizen of Indonesia. People say Indonesian schools did not accept non-citizens at the time. This is the only formal record still public of his citizenship.
http://www.daylife.com/photo/01u33pL9Ns06D

-- He mentioned a visit to Pakistan during college. Some say this was off-limits to Americans at that time, but accessible to citizens of Indonesia. The first US passport we know of him holding was as a US senator much later. Opening up his passport record and travel history could help this issue go away.

-- School records are all withheld. Other politicians regularly release their grades. Some question whether he received foreign-student aid. Opening up school records, as other candidates do, could clear up this issue.

-- Media coverage of the questions has severely distorted the issues. This sometimes happens spontaneously, but....

Just opening up the normal citizenship records, to the normal degree, would have cleared away all these questions long ago. Yet there is unprecedented opacity. An open forum on "open government" would naturally draw these as prime questions.

"Why is it taboo?" Because questioners are personally attacked. Ad hominem, not ad rem. Scary.

(And yes, it is staggering that opposition candidates, media, and even "right wing bloggers" would attack or distort such questions. But the questions themselves are simple, reasonable, and answerable. The implications are significant.)

It's too bad this was modded as Troll.

I disagree.

Here's the mod's thought process: "I really like Obama and that guy seems to be saying something that doesn't promote Obama. Clearly he must be a troll!"

No, I suspect the thought process is more like this:"Oh god, another person trying to get replies by posting things that are completely wrong and everyone knows is wrong, but which many people will feel they need to respond to anyway."

I'll explain this birth certificate controversy.

You can't. There is no controversy. There are a bunch of rumors and nonsense and a smear campaign and a bunch of hysterical idiots who either can't do any research or are unwilling to believe despite any evidence presented. He released his birth certificate. He did it a long time ago, and we still have morons claiming he didn't or that it is a forgery or that a "certificate of live birth" isn't a birth certificate, despite that being what mine says on it. Please spend 30 seconds doing research next time something comes up, instead of 10 minutes writing a completely misinformed rant.

Yes, I hold it against him that he belonged to a church. All churches are racist, or close enough: "Here's what we believe. We offer no proof. But if you don't believe it too you aren't one of us." But good luck finding a politician who doesn't belong to a church in this rationality-forsaken country. Americans, I've noticed, tend to be indoctrinated pretty early, never having a chance to learn reason before they're brainwashed by whatever religious organisation did the same thing to their parents. You see, humans all have a deep-seated tendency to be impressionable when they're young, and a good thing it is, usually. Some of us, the best of us, can realise our childhood biases and overcome them. But such people are few and far between.

Does Obama still belong to that church? Or did he, upon noticing that it did not respect his personal ethics, leave? If he stopped believing in god or the tooth fairy or what-have-you, then kudos to him, but those who can give up that children's tale after having been brainwashed since childhood are truly marvelous.

As for ACORN, why should I believe you over anyone else? I don't know firsthand what happened, but I find this just as credible as any other source, and vastly more credible than the people running the GOP anti-Obama spin campaign, whom I know for sure have repeatedly lied ("Obama wants to raise taxes on middle class families" etc), exaggerated trivial facts beyond absurdity ("Obama had an acquaintance when he was 7, who later became a terrorist. Cool!" etc...), and, having no message of their own, have done nothing but incite fear, suspicion, and hatred against the "uppity nigger." If you actually still believe their spin machine, I'd love to know why.

If you want a shit-flinging match, you probably ought to name a candidate more ethical than Obama. Ron Paul probably qualifies, but I don't believe that any other current candidate comes remotely close. If you're interested in the truth, you should fling all shit equally, try hard to find what washes off, and see which candidate really ends up smelling the worst.

Why doesn't Obama just produce the documentation (if he has it)? Everyone else has to.

What, his birth certificate (which has been verified to be valid) isn't documentation enough for you?

(You are talking about documentation of U.S. citizenship, right? Or did I just misunderstand you?)