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Re:Specs
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Re:Rumors of even *more* advanced stuff..
Dynamic range is being solved by CMOS focal plane array processing, just like our retina does. Infact, CMOS sensors can probably have a much higher dynamic range than film.
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No contest?
For most purposes, yes, no contest. Until the first camera that uses an 11 megapixel foveon chip.
You'll be getting far better sharpness and color representation at that point. Only then will it simply be a megapixel race. We may have high megapixels nowadays but that isn't the whole battle. The interpolation algorithms are still sitting between reality and digital storage.
Foveon is solving that cheaply. Their sample images are amazing:
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No contest?
For most purposes, yes, no contest. Until the first camera that uses an 11 megapixel foveon chip.
You'll be getting far better sharpness and color representation at that point. Only then will it simply be a megapixel race. We may have high megapixels nowadays but that isn't the whole battle. The interpolation algorithms are still sitting between reality and digital storage.
Foveon is solving that cheaply. Their sample images are amazing:
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No contest?
For most purposes, yes, no contest. Until the first camera that uses an 11 megapixel foveon chip.
You'll be getting far better sharpness and color representation at that point. Only then will it simply be a megapixel race. We may have high megapixels nowadays but that isn't the whole battle. The interpolation algorithms are still sitting between reality and digital storage.
Foveon is solving that cheaply. Their sample images are amazing:
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No contest?
For most purposes, yes, no contest. Until the first camera that uses an 11 megapixel foveon chip.
You'll be getting far better sharpness and color representation at that point. Only then will it simply be a megapixel race. We may have high megapixels nowadays but that isn't the whole battle. The interpolation algorithms are still sitting between reality and digital storage.
Foveon is solving that cheaply. Their sample images are amazing:
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Re:Some Breakthrough...
You're incorrect. Check the Foveon web site. In conventinal sensors, as you say, the software has to guesstimate colors at boundaries because you can't sample the 'red' at the same point in the image that you sample the 'green'. With the X3 sensor, it appears that you get a simultanious reading of the color channels over the same parts of the image area. This means you avoid a lot of resolution-losing filtering in the color channel to avoid chroma aliasing, and at the same time perhaps improving light sensitivity.
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A real laptop/camera....
I want one of these.
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4096x4096NYT article agrees with your 4096x4096 figure. Also says Kodak has a CCD this size already. This one will be cheaper, less than $100 per camera. Add grain of salt here. The Foveon home page
www.foveon.net has more info. They say the chip is a 22mm square. Now, that is much smaller than a 35mm piece of film. The actual pixel size is 0.18 microns. I'm not sure what the grain size of film is.
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Re:ccd is better than cmos
check out the demo picture at the foveon web site .
it does not look like there is a lot of strange artifacts there... in fact, it looks like a professional photograph. of course, it is kind of hard to judge from my 72 dpi screen here, but still... looks impressive.
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The man behind the camera is a EE God.
I briefly worked as a tech for Carver Mead, the man behind Foveon
He is a Professor Emeritus at Caltech, where he was one of the many highly respected EE God's.One of Carver's best known works are his books on VLSI (published in the early days before some of us were even born.) and analog VLSI and neural systems.
His research group did some really interesting technology including silicon retina which simulated the eye's tendency to detect motions and edges.
Foveon products probably won't show up in your handheld cameras anytime soon. But for professional environments, it takes beautiful images that minimize image artifcats that are typically associated with digital imagers.
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The man behind the camera is a EE God.
I briefly worked as a tech for Carver Mead, the man behind Foveon
He is a Professor Emeritus at Caltech, where he was one of the many highly respected EE God's.One of Carver's best known works are his books on VLSI (published in the early days before some of us were even born.) and analog VLSI and neural systems.
His research group did some really interesting technology including silicon retina which simulated the eye's tendency to detect motions and edges.
Foveon products probably won't show up in your handheld cameras anytime soon. But for professional environments, it takes beautiful images that minimize image artifcats that are typically associated with digital imagers.
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More details at the Foveon site
At 22mm x 22mm it sounds like a contender for conventional 24 x 35mm film.
Here is Foveon's press release. -
Is it real, or is it foveon?Foveon, Inc.
If Foveon can really produce these at half the price of current shittier transistors, I will be a buyer. I will have to see whether they are really 2.5x the transistors of a PIII when the retail version hits shelves.
I guess it is easy to do some advanced R&D when your sugar daddy is National Semiconductor...