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With thanks to Moxy Fruvous...

You will go to the moon
You'll probably be heading there soon
Someday flowers will grow there
But first you've got to go there
Oh, You will go to the moon

You will live in the stars
Your backyard will probably be Mars
You will ride a crater scooter
And eat off your computer
Oh you will live in the stars

Your stellar smile will always beam
Knowing you're home and home to stay
And you'll look down upon the earth
And say, "I can't believe we ever lived that way!"

You will go to the moon
There's plans for a hotel and a lagoon
You'll be savoring a star fruit
And kicking off your moonboot
Oh you will go to the moon.

Hey, you will go to the moon
A paradise to rival Cancun
And one side's always sunny
You'll be raking in the money
Oh you get paid on the moon

It's been our most abiding dream
And a dream is an easy sell
And when the tourists come in droves
You'll be the big cheese on that orbiting rondelle

You will go to the moon
Daring pioneers will call the tune
Ah someday flowers will grow there
But first you got to go there
Oh you will go to the moon
I'm gonna tell ya, you will go to the moon
One more! You will go to the moon!

Another drawback is that a stock market has both buyers and sellers - what value can be derived from an iTunes marketplace where buyers compete for a limitless supply?

Not that the model wouldn't work, but it sure doesn't have any easy analogs in the real world of markets and trading. That said, if iTunes would allow me to sell my used songs on their market, and cap a maximum IPO of song title quantities, I'd gladly give Steve Jobs a few pennies to offload my ex girfriend's Celine Dion albums (no URL link provided) and pick up a little microcap named Moxy Fruvus http://www.fruvous.com/

> the RIAA, MPAA, Nintendo, your mom, and the King of Spain don't give a fuck about you making a copy of a CD to put in your car.

the King Of Spain just might.

How many bands do you know that post _all_ their lyrics on their websites? Darn nice guys.

http://www.fruvous.com/ln-lyr.html#kasparov

Or you could just link directly to the blurb http://www.fruvous.com/ln-lyr.html#kasparov

Hmmm... It could bring back some Cross border Shopping...

Fervus and Krypta together... a match made in heaven... or was it hell?

.:|Jon|:.

P.S. That's Fervus, the temple in Majesty, not Fruvous as in Moxy Fruvous ;-)

Right, except that MF is an extremely awesome band of four rather hoopy froods who would be more than happy at the exposure generated by the parent post. Go look at their website. Tons of links to fan pages, lots of which certainly post lyrics, tabs, and the like. Früheads approach deadheads in their fanatical band-loyalty, and like the GD, MF know how to support this enthusiasm rather than pointlessly Metallica-ing it away with hissy fits.

Why? They allow free recording and distribution of their live shows.

Moxy Fruvous is one such group. We had an active taper community when the band was still touring. Although they've stopped, we're still pretty much together as a group.

And as a group, we're still avid music lovers, having our own individual tastes, but still have a lot of the same groups in common.

Viral Marketing is the best. Just ask Russell Wolff about what he said was one of the best nights of his life, getting the chance to open for Fruvous, and us fans absolutley loving his stuff.

His popularity grew from being one small performer to being one... well, still small, but more well known performer.

Paraphrased, "Even a computer that plays chess doesn't have the brains to run from a fire."

(see the lyrics to "Kasparov vs. Deep Blue" off Moxy Früvous' album Live Noise.)

They haven't had a gig together in ages. They were truly one of the coolest bands ever.

I didn't own any Moxy Früvous until I tried rips of them; now I've bought every CD of theirs I've seen. And then there's the issue of collecting rips of performances that simply aren't for sale....

i wanna be a new, original creation
a cross between a moose a monkey and a fig
i'm ready Monsanto let me be your guina pig

cuz the seed we sew aint good enough
the earth we plow it aint good enough
the food we grow well its never been up to scratch,

the geezer with the beard and all the angels
made a few mistakes I dont know why
we dont need him anymore if geneticly modify

so dont ya tell me what you're puttin in my lunch box
i got a crazy pioneering additude
dont bother me with labels gotta get a belly full of franken-food

gotta geta belly fulla franken-food

--Moxy Fruvous

It's rare that one finds an item on Napster that they couldn't find from a friend they already have.

Unless you don't have a lot of friends that trade mp3s, or aren't fans of the same bands/artists that you are.

The only reason I finally fired up Gnapster was because it occurred to me that I could find a couple of oddball songs by one of my favorite bands, Moxy Fruvous -- specifically a song they did on their demo tape which used the words to Dr. Suess' "Green Eggs and Ham". Apparently the good doctor (or his estate) pointed out that he discourages use of his works in certain venues, so they haven't distributed any more copies of their demo tape (though they will perform it live on occasion).

But all it took was for one person to rip it to MP3 and voila! It lives forever.

And in the process, I found out that they have not one, but two new albums, because the songs were available on Napster! I've tracked down one of them and am looking for the other one (I guess I'd have to say that yes, Napster does not discourage me from buying CDs) if only so I can re-rip them at better quality (or even ogg-ify them...)

Jay (=

This is just sad. Can't the PETA folks take a joke?

No, they can't. They're an (unfortunately) very common subvariety of the American Liberal Democrat, largely characterized by an inability to see anything humorous, period. All issues are life-and-death to these individuals, who find themselves in a near-constant state of outrage that other people, institutions, and in fact the entire world does not conform to their views of What Should Be.

In the wild, they often associate with and assume the colorings of other, more palatable subvarieties of the Liberal Democrat (for example, Fruvous Liberals). This provides them with some obvious benefits, primarily the fact that they are much more likely to get invited to good parties. While in these groupings, an American Liberal Democrat's normally combatative nature and desire to verbally abuse non-Democrats can usually be repressed, at least until the entire flock encounters a Conservative (of any subvariety, either Democrat or Republican.)

Is Slashdot desiring to "expand its horizons" and now become a "popular culture discussion site"?

...Dear Lord, I hope not. I'm not one of the people who usually goes yelling 'This isn't news for nerds' every time something mildly non-technical gets posted, but really. Most geeks I know happened to find the Scream trilogy mildly interesting at best.

Hey Jon! Weren't you the one who was writing about how geeks are generally categorized by their distaste for popular media? I don't mean to bitch about the choice of article subject -- I generally find JonKatz's writing at least thought-provoking, even if I think he's full of shit -- but ... well, to be honest, the last movie I saw in the theatres was The Matrix, and I'm refusing to go to the movies until this whole DVD thing gets settled, because I refuse to let my money go to that legal battle unless it's to the right side.

Of course, now I have Splatter Splatter by Moxy Fruvous (who are not pop culture, and should never be pop culture -- it would ruin their charm -- but who, nonetheless, are one hell of a band) stuck firmly in my head. "The windows shatter, then splatter splatter, cue soundtrack music from the up and coming band..."

Is Slashdot desiring to "expand its horizons" and now become a "popular culture discussion site"?

...Dear Lord, I hope not. I'm not one of the people who usually goes yelling 'This isn't news for nerds' every time something mildly non-technical gets posted, but really. Most geeks I know happened to find the Scream trilogy mildly interesting at best.

Hey Jon! Weren't you the one who was writing about how geeks are generally categorized by their distaste for popular media? I don't mean to bitch about the choice of article subject -- I generally find JonKatz's writing at least thought-provoking, even if I think he's full of shit -- but ... well, to be honest, the last movie I saw in the theatres was The Matrix, and I'm refusing to go to the movies until this whole DVD thing gets settled, because I refuse to let my money go to that legal battle unless it's to the right side.

Of course, now I have Splatter Splatter by Moxy Fruvous (who are not pop culture, and should never be pop culture -- it would ruin their charm -- but who, nonetheless, are one hell of a band) stuck firmly in my head. "The windows shatter, then splatter splatter, cue soundtrack music from the up and coming band..."

Fruvous would be the next Beatles if people would just listen to their stuff!

The problem is that an unknown band doesn't get any radio play, and without radio play they remain an unknown band.

Regardless of where the industry goes, the physical booklet with lyrics will eventually make way for artist's web sites, which can hold infinitely more information than the little booklet. A good example of this is Moxy Fruvous

They have the lyrics to all the songs they ever recorded at their web site, as well as tour dates, fan info, and tons of other stuff. If we are still buying physical media (CDs or their descendents) in 10 years, the enclosed booklet will simply contain a URL, with all the info, including lyrics, at the web site.

(BTW, any other Fruvous fans out there? Former Fruvous fans?)

I was a long-time BBSer back in "the days", and was sad when most of the local boards started vanishing. The Internet is great, but there weren't many true communities on it -- the sheer size eliminated any hope for a consistent, local user base for any forum.

When I set out to design Fruhead.Com, a web community for fans of the band Moxy Fruvous, I didn't design anything with the old BBS days in mind. That didn't keep that sleeping part of me to wake up and take over. What I ended up with was something that felt to me a lot like the old BBS days, complete with a "Scribble Wall", a "Who's On", a private message system, a message board, a Java IRC interface, and specialized areas for specific interests. The response to it has been nothing short of amazing to me.. there are many who spend a significant portion of their day on the site.

I think that the reason that most web-based communities fail is their lack of focus. Groups either are too large or too small, and there's no unity of interests. Local BBSes used to at least share the common tie of location, but trying to do the same on the Internet seems to always lead to anarchy. BBSes need to adapt to survive, and I've found the success to Fruhead.Com lies in its focus -- all users share a common bond, and the site focuses on that.

Heheh...

This reminds me of a Moxy Früvous song, called Spiderman because of a passage...

(Mike)
Spiderman, Spiderman
Friendly neighborhood Spiderman
Is he strong? Listen bud,
He's got radioactive blood
Hey there [...]

Heheh...

This reminds me of a Moxy Früvous song, called Spiderman because of a passage...

(Mike)
Spiderman, Spiderman
Friendly neighborhood Spiderman
Is he strong? Listen bud,
He's got radioactive blood
Hey there [...]

-A.P.
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