Domain: getfirebug.com
Stories and comments across the archive that link to getfirebug.com.
Comments · 56
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When the web apps are taking over ...
A lot of people are replacing client-server apps with browser based apps, with zero install hassles - which this particular example doesn't really have. But learning to build html apps in CGI mode is easier than re-learning event loops for GTK land (even in perl).
Of course, debugging in-browser apps is getting easier with firebug and other developer oriented firefox bits. Now, whether the app is built using perl-CGI, mod_perl, php, ruby on rails, even servlets doesn't matter - the UI can actually work very well. For instance my sudoku, in fact looks better in HTML than if I (let me repeat, if *I*) had done it with GTK or MFC.
And CGI still hasn't lost its edge totally. There are places when you *have* to use CGI to do what you want. I ran into one case when I couldn't use php when I wanted to server pushes on a live connection. Instead of firing multiple requests to the server, I hold the connection and push data when it comes available - sort of stateful connections reinvented for HTTP. Which has definite promise when you're building mashups, which fetch data from elsewhere without cross-user leakage (heh, if he can hijack TCP, I don't know what...) - flockr for instance uses such a script in the backend to feed it data (except I'll be an idiot to post a live CGI script to slashdot).
CGI ain't quite dead yet
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There are some work-arounds though
websites that use Flash media which claim that the latest version distributed by Novell as part of OpenSuSE 10 is not complaint. Yet as far as I'm aware the versions correlate, so it's just bad scripting on the part of bands and others who insist on using Flash in their websites, not a problem with the deployed tools or browsers.
Thankfully, there are things that can be done about some of these sorts of problems, like changing the user agent (use about:config in Firfox) or using tools like Greasemonkey, Web Developer and Firebug to "fix" poorly designed web sites. Unfortunately, these tools are unknown to most users and some are difficult for the average user to use and even power users ofen find it more work than it's worth to fix bad sites.
I've never liked the idea of coding to a browser. Use the standard query tags to determine the browser capabilities -
Re:Disable/Uninstall Components?
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Firebug ROCKS!!!!
Have been using for a while
... and yea, be sure to 1.x Beta which is major improvement on what was already a great product. -
Link to old extension
The article links to the wrong page for Firebug, it is currently pointing to the old version of the extension (0.4.1). Firebug 1.0 beta is a dramatic step ahead of 0.4, and you can get it at http://www.getfirebug.com/
It would be a shame if everyone installs 0.4 and misses out on all the great new stuff in 1.0. -
Re:A great Javascript debugger...
Ahem.
http://www.getfirebug.com/lite.html
Works with IE, Opera, Safari.
There is also a fairly powerful script debugger for IE that comes with Office.
Chris