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Of course, there is much to be said about first page ranking.

Just as with the tank search, you just have to dig a little.

http://images.google.cn/images?q=sex&svnum=10&hl=z h-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&start=120&sa=N

I'll also note that it's entirely possible that those are supposed to be teenagers. Not entirely SFW, so you get to copy/paste.

What's more, sex is an English word. Can someone try searching with the Chinese word for sex?

• http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen+1989
  

Excellent post!

For another day/night (bright and clean / dark and seedy) comparison conduct an image search for "sex". The results from google.cn kick off with a view of *two people holding hands*. The google.com search is... not so subtle.

Here's a link to the google.cn search (definately SFW):

  http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&l r=&cr=countryCN&q=sex

Ur... I won't post a link to the google.com version!

[Disclaimer: Yes. It's only a search of .cn domains]

Then why can I find the word "massacre" when I search HERE?

OOPS. Looks like One slipped through

As mention by many prior. It's hard to censor everything, and things slip through. It's hard to hide history, even for China...

Something Slipped Through! Check it out: tanks.

http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen&svnum=1 0&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&start=80&sa=N

• http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen
• http://unavailable.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen

• http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen
• http://unavailable.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen

You DO get mentions of the massacre, even with the censorship. Basically, the Chinese will have to be inventive in their searches.

Check it out:

tiananmen square massacre

It does a pretty good job with "big butts," too:

US: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=big+butts

CN: http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=big+butts

Compare this American Google image search for "tiananmen square" to the same search in the Chinese Google image search. Notice that the only result that even mentions something related to the imfamous student protests is this result, which makes it seem as if the government didn't do anything wrong, but the protestors did. Google is clearly wrong in this case. Google is right to stand up against the Bush administration, but Google is wrong to not do the same against the Chinese administration. A spade is a spade, but apparently there is a partisan divide that dictates people's beliefs on this issue.

Try this. Looks like google isn't doing a good job censoring results...

But in support of the "something will filter through" position, I offer you this:

http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen&svnum=1 0&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&start=80&sa=N

I see two tank pictures there.

When the Chinese Google appeared, I went over there to see if my own website would appear or if it was censored. I did a search for 'Austin Skate Notes'. It showed up as the first result. But the second result is a link to a photo album deeply nested in my site that contains photos I shot at a George Bush Protest in Austin. I was kind of surprised because it's not linked to from other sites that I know of and I have other content on my site that talks about the new Shanghai skatepark and Chinese-made skate decks.

When you search 'Austin Skate Notes' on the American Google, the Bush protest does not appear on the first page of results. It's interesting to me that the Chinese Google thinks visitors would be more interested in the protest photos than American Google users.

Seth

It appears to be doing a darn good job on some keywords:

So called "neutral" search results on non-chinese searches for a persecuted religious group known as Falun Gong:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=falun+gong

Properly filtered results unmasking the Falun Gong terrorists for what they are:
http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=falun+gong

Rock on!

Fortunately, even Google can't hide everything.

• http://images.google.com/images?q=tiananmen
  
• http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen
  

Yeah just because the Chinese government kills a few protesters and then covers it up with the help of Google doesn't mean they're doing something evil in their culture. What they did wasn't even illegal. Get a grip, people.

So maybe misspellings won't be censored as effectively, and the Chinese can finally get all that pr0n.

http://images.google.cn/images?q=tienanmen+square

(for comparison: http://images.google.com/images?q=tienanmen+square )

...to me at least
this
vs.
this

I don't read Chinese, but tab back and forth between the two and see if you can tell me what the difference is.

"For one, on the bottom of the Chinese results they do show that the results were filtered according to local law. So, the Chiniese citizens are in fact informed that their results are being filtered indirectly by their Governement."

http://www.google.com/search?q=tiananmen%20square

http://www.google.cn/search?q=tiananmen%20square

Unless I'm blind.

Enjoy. Tiananmen Square in English, on the American site: http://images.google.com/images?q=tiananmen+square Tiananmen Square in Chinese, on the Chinese site: http://images.google.cn/images?q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%8 9%E9%97%A8%E5%B9%BF%E5%9C%BA&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4% A2 At many universities in China, they only have access to domestic internet ( *.cn ) and to access ANYTHING foreign you need to find an unreliable proxy. I wonder how hard it might be to do some really long distance Wi-Fi from an uncensored internet source outside the country into the country (HK; Taiwan, which also has a few small islands right off the Chinese coast; Vietnam, S. Korea).

http://images.google.cn/images?q=tank+man&hl=zh-CN

Well, a search on just Tiananmen shows some of the same pictures on page 5... http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen&svnum=1 0&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&start=80&sa=N I realize China is censoring (to a great extent), but perhaps some of it also has to do with the difference in culture. In the west, when we hear Tiananmen Square, we think massacre. There's a lot more to the square than that, and the Chinese have more reverance for it. However, pics posted by the Chinese are written in chinese, and so searching by english words won't neccessarily turn up the same thing. Searching in english will turn up the western view of Tiananman mostly, and little else.

It's like the DMCA message you get when you search for things right here in the motherland.

http://www.google.com/search?q=xenu (look at the bottom of the page)

And now, the $1000 question... which local government is not censoring these results?

http://www.google.cn/search?q=xenu

I seem to get this result when i do a search for Tiananmen sq. on images.google.cn seems milage varies

Consider what Tiananmen Square stands for. Now look at the images google returns for the normal search vs the Chinese search and ask yourself what you think you would know from looking at these results:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tiananmen+square
http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen+square

Hmm, I didn't see it for Tibet , though it is there onGoogle Image search for Tibet.
Perhaps the top ten results aren't on the censor's list?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+ Square++&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=

versus

http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+S quare++&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=

Save query, different answer. Google is evil.

Compare the Google.com search to the chinese search - none of the pro-Falun Gong sites show up in the Chinese one.

Google.com: "Falun Gong: what they are and why the Chinese government is terrified of them" from religioustolerance.org
Google.cn: "Falun Gong's anti-humanity, anti-science, anti-society nature" from the chinese embassy in canada.

Poisoned water indeed.

Google.com Search for Falun Gong
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Falun+Gong

Falun Dafa
Falun Dafa, a cultivation way of the Buddhas' School, as created and organized
by Mr. Li Hongzhi.
www.falundafa.org/

Falun Gong
FALUN GONG. Li Hongzhi. 4th Translation Edition, Updated in April 2001 ...
Characteristics of Falun Gong Cultivation 4. Cultivation of Both Mind and Body ...
www.falundafa.org/book/eng/flg.htm
[ More results from www.falundafa.org ]

Falun Dafa Information Center
Falun Dafa Information Center, News and information about Falun Gong around the world.
www.faluninfo.net/

Falun Dafa & Falun Gong
Falun Dafa and Falun Gong: what they are and why the Chinese government is
terrified of them.
www.religioustolerance.org/falungong.htm

Falun Gong- Friends of Falun Gong USA
Friends of Falun Gong and the spiritual movement Falun Dafa united to support
freedom of belief for all Dafa practitioners in China and worldwide.
www.fofg.org/

Falun Gong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Treatment of Falun Gong members has been regarded in the West as a major ...
Falun Gong professes a number of beliefs, some of which are similar to various ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong

Chinese Google.cn Search for Falun Gong
http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=Falun+Gong& btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=cr%3DcountryCN

Falun Gong practitioners jailed for libeling gov't
Home>News Center>China.
www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-02/20/conte nt_307742.htm

Outlawing Falun Gong Cult - [ BETA ]
Chen Shumin, general manager of a Chongqing-based technology company and a Falun
Gong cult practitioner, and four other people received ... Teng Chunyan: I Am
Pleased to Shake off the Spiritual Shackle of the Falun Gong Cult (11/20/01) ...
www.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/ppflg/default.htm

QIANLONG.COM--Beijing Portal--Falun Gong hijacks HK satellite - [ BETA ]
Falun Gong hijacks HK satellite. Beijing Portal 2004-11-23 15:07:40. A Hong Kong
based satellite company accused on Sunday the Falun Gong cult, that has been outlawed
on the Chinese mainland, of hijacking its satellite and disrupting its normal ...
www.beijingportal.com.cn/7838/2004/11/23/1821@2387 514.htm

Falun Gong's anti-humanity, anti-science, anti-society nature ... - [ BETA ]
Falun Gong's anti-humanity, anti-science, anti-society nature denounced
(2002-07-08). ... BEIJING, July 8 (Xinhuanet) -- The People's Daily, the leading newspaper
of China, outlined the anti-humanity, anti-science and anti-society nature of the ...
www.chinaembassycanada.org/eng/xwdt/t37433.htm

15 Falun Gong Activists Sentenced to Jail & Fine in Singapore ... - [ BETA ]
15 Falun Gong Activists Sentenced to Jail & Fine in Singapore (2001-03-30).
2003/10/24. Singapore Magistrate Court Thursday imposed sentences to 15 Falun Gong

Even more interesting

Falun Gong... Result #1 = "How I beat the shackles of the Falun Gong cult"

http://www.google.cn/search?q=falun+gong&btnG=%E6% 90%9C%E7%B4%A2&hl=zh-CN

"In order to operate from China, we have removed some content from the search results available on Google.cn, in response to local law, regulation or policy," the internet company said in a statement issued yesterday.

That's quite interesting. I just ran a search for "tibet" on google.cn. I can't read the first two results, but the third and fourth results, at first glance, look very pro-Tibet-independence.

Perhaps Google hasn't launched this new site yet, or perhaps it's returning different results due to my IP address not being in China. Can anyone confirm?

http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=site%3Agov. tw&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=cr%3DcountryCN

vs.

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Agov.tw&start =0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozi lla:en-US:official

How's that for censorship?

Yeah..and compare these both results:

1: http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+S quare++&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=

2: http://www.google.com/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+ Square++&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=

http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+S quare+protests&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=cr%3Dc ountryCN

So google are letting us know when they are censoring results?

Shouldn't the chinese google results look the same as the others, but letting you know which links are censored?

http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+s quare&meta=
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=tiananmen+s quare&meta=
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=tiananmen+ square&meta=
http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=tiananmen+squa re&meta=
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=tiananmen+squa re&meta=

True, there is some censorship going on, however it doesn't seem that either Google's software or the Great Firewall is completely effective. Googling for "tiananmen square massacre" results in a lot of hits, whereas you would think it would return nothing:
http://www.google.cn/search?q=tiananmen+Square++ma ssacre&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&hl=zh-CN

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Tiananmen+Squ are+&btnG=Google+Search

http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+S quare++&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=

The bulk of the English results refer to the massacre. Not oe of google.cn's hits refers to this. Nor is there a reference to the vast omission.

And they say this is not censorship.

A friend showed me this.

If you switch to Chinese mode and do a search for "Democracy", you get some interesting links. Be sure to check out the adwords link on the right :)

http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=democracy&b tnG=??&meta=cr%3DcountryCN

altough the different results for that query between google.com and google.cn are pretty scary, it's always nice to see that they can't filter everything.

altough the different results for that query between google.com and google.cn are pretty scary, it's always nice to see that they can't filter everything.

search term: "falun gong"
Using google.com
Using Google China

Chinese Google

US Google

I see two very different results, and no notice of censorship.

Chinese results.

Can any of y'all read Chinese? From the garbled text it doesn't look like there's a notice or anything.

Are you perhaps searching from within China?

The results are completely different

From google.com search the first hit is

Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

With images displayed of the protest

From a google.cn search the first hit is the tourist friendly

Beijing Tiananmen: ChinaVista

That's the first result for google.com too: Here

For the correct spelling:
English results
Chinese results

Yes, that is censorship. Fuck! Now I have to get rid of my Gmail account? Fuck you Google!

This is the search results at www.google.cn if you search for "Falun Gong". It comes up with a long list of articles about Falun Gong atrocities, "How I escaped the evil cult of Falun Gong", a story about how Falun Gong hijacked a Hong Kong company's satellite (not joking), etc.

But the google.com search highlights articles headed with "Why China is terrified of Falun Gong".

Google is participating in the censorship program of a totalitarian state.

Maybe you should learn to spell Tiananmen Square. (You will find #9 differs)

http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+S quare++&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=