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I'm biased though. I'm a lead tech at a GoldMine VAR. So don't just take my word for it. Please do your own research

For simple rolodex, it's mass overkill. But if you're looking to REALLY automate your sales force, it's the shit.

There's the main Goldmine (Corporate Edition or Premium Edition) app for people in the office or for remote guys syncing through low-speed connections.

You have:

• e-mail functionality
• SMS integration
• calendaring
• fairly sophisticated report generation (plus you have the options of Crystal Reports (which comes free with CE and PE) and SQL Server Reporting)
• Human-readable filtering, grouping, SQL queries, DBase-style queries
• fairly elaborate import and export functionality
• leads management, document management, knowledge management, project management
• automated processes
• Call scripting

And more. There's tons of functionality, of which I've only scratched the surface. And NOBODY uses it all.

Moreover, it's designed to be a networked/shared environment BY DESIGN. Not hacked in like so many other options out there.

For people with higher speed connections, there's virtual desktop/web-client functionality through the iGoldMine product (based on GraphOn). So you can publish not only GoldMine, but other apps (Office, etc).

For mobile users (handheld/phones/etc), there's things like W-Systems' MA HREF="http://www.w-systems.com/www/web/products_wMobile.asp">W-Mobile offering. Presents a nice clean interface for the data, and the upcoming version will actually allow full e-mail functionality.

For just being able to dump a list of appointments to a mobile device, there's options for syncing with Palm devices, Windows mobile devices. And for more elaborate integration of data, there's a product called CompanionLink that'll add options like Crackberry, etc.

With Premium Edition, there's even full-blown SIP/TAPI integration (CE has rudimentary SIP functionality, thought the TAPI link is the same).

And until you start getting into the hundreds of employees, even a modestly powerful server (think low-end desktop but packed with 2-3GB of RAM) is overkill.

If you're looking for real, full-blown helpdesk, you're probably looking at another FrontRange (the guys who make GoldMine) product. HEAT.

We don't deal a whole lot with HEAT. The sales cycles on it are really long, and while we DO know how to install it, some of the other FRS VARs are much better with it than we are. Basically HEAT is THE solution if you're looking for the real-deal solution though. And yes, there's intergration between the HEAT and GoldMine products.

There's actually a third GoldMine product. GoldMine Enterprise Edition. It is, however, a VERY highly specialized product. Essentially it's setup is something similar to PeopleSoft, etc. Out of the box, it doesn't really do anything, and it takes time (and some expensive labor) to build the interface specifically to meet a given company's needs. Unless you have tons of money to burn and highly specialized needs, this solution is HUGE overkill and even FrontRange themselves will warn you that your needs could be met more economically with other products.

We actually use GoldMine itself as a poor-man's helpdesk. Our phone system logs the calls. We just fill out billable history items once we're done. When we get ready to do billing, we just run a filter fo

Lots of stuff, some might not have what you are looking for... But hey, sift through these, and see if there is anything of interest :-)

Genuit's ThinWorx
Tarantella
Provision Networks
HOB
Prospero
Win4Lin
Konect
GraphOn's GO-Global

HTH :)

http://www.graphon.com/products/demo.shtml You can continue to use MSOffice, and upgrading will be much easier.

I seem to recall there are already web-based office suites available - Hyperoffice comes to mind as one...

Microsoft announced they were going to provide Office through the Internet back in 1999 . I think it was called "Microsoft Office Online", but MS seems to have decided to use that name for a simple homepage about Office. I actually recall inadvertently running into a web page that was a web-based version of Outlook that ran through Internet Explorer years ago. It was sluggish, using DHTML for the GUI, although it looked identical to the desktop version.

I think Microsoft was doing this as a response to websites like HyperOffice that were cropping up at the time. I remember these sites were referred to as "Application Service Providers", although the definition of that term seems to have changed. I recall several but the sites don't seem to be up anymore. They were websites that provided a window manager within a browser. One was Desktop.com and another was Blox.com. Yahoo has a list of web-based desktop sites. There are some like GraphOn.com and WorkSpot.com that allow you to run remote desktops of actual operating systems through the web. WorkSpot seems sluggish, but Linux users might find it interesting to be able to access a Linux desktop through a Java Applet. There is a demo page that lets you try it out for 10 minutes.

Greetings!

We evaluated Tarantella a while back as an interesting way to make a single, cohesive environment out of a variety of application environments (shell apps, X apps, Windows apps). Then we woke up and realized that it was overhead and that user training was the most critical function necessary - not hiding the applications behind a web browser.

If you're interested in having business users that don't understand X use a Linux app in a browser, then you'll also be interested in products like GraphOn, Exceed Web, and the X11R6.3 X browser plugin (also known as Broadway or LBX). Sun/Netscape/iPlanet/AOL/Time Warner/Great Satan also has a competitive product they acquired from a startup that if I recall properly gave them the "iPlanet" name. This can be found at http://www.iplanet.com/products/infrastructure/rem ote_access/s_web_entprs/index.html .

Check the products page on their website. They actually have products to display applications from Unix to Windows, Unix to Java, Unix to NT. Something tells me that they'll have clients for all sorts of OS's.

GraphOn's Product DOES exist.

You are right that it is not advertised on their Products page. This is probably because they first unveiled it last week at Comdex. Read today's press release. It WILL let people run Windows applications remotely from Unix/Linux/Windows/Java.

According to a previous press release, it will be available for Linux next month.

Dan

GraphOn's Product DOES exist.

You are right that it is not advertised on their Products page. This is probably because they first unveiled it last week at Comdex. Read today's press release. It WILL let people run Windows applications remotely from Unix/Linux/Windows/Java.

According to a previous press release, it will be available for Linux next month.

Dan

These guys should really look at VNC.

It would seem that Graph On doesn't even have a product out that allows Unixes to use Windows applications remotely. Looking through their product line you'll notice that all of their products communicate Linux/Unix applications to Windows Desktops or to Java clients. Anyone heard of an X server for windows? that's news to me.
Joseph Elwell.

Taking a look at GraphOn's Homepage you'll notice that they sell a kind of X object handler that can act as an in between from windows to ANY desktop (including Linux). It would seem to me, then, that this move is aimed towards competing with Sun's Star Portal and the likes (Microsoft's Web Office) etc... than it is at trying to get native code ported over.

This looks like a short term goal, Graphon is all about thin computing and NC's. Anyone think the Network Computer is alive?
Joseph Elwell.

The article does not indicate anything about WINE being downright eliminated, only that the GraphOn software will get added in.

It is not self-evident that WINE becomes of no value; a major value to WINE to Corel should in permitting Win32 software to be recompiled using libwine so that they may be deployed as native Linux applications.

In contrast, the GraphOn Linux Client to Bridges software is not a tool to allow Windows software to run on Linux; it is merely a tool to allow Windows software to run on Windows NT, and then display on Linux.

The new Linux client runs Windows applications remotely

Essentially, this provides the same sort of functionality as the Citrix ICA protocol, or Microsoft's Hydra.

What is particularly distressing is that this supports the GraphOn Patent for Remoting Windows Applications. But that does not appear to have anything to do with WINE...

The article does not indicate anything about WINE being downright eliminated, only that the GraphOn software will get added in.

It is not self-evident that WINE becomes of no value; a major value to WINE to Corel should in permitting Win32 software to be recompiled using libwine so that they may be deployed as native Linux applications.

In contrast, the GraphOn Linux Client to Bridges software is not a tool to allow Windows software to run on Linux; it is merely a tool to allow Windows software to run on Windows NT, and then display on Linux.

The new Linux client runs Windows applications remotely

Essentially, this provides the same sort of functionality as the Citrix ICA protocol, or Microsoft's Hydra.

What is particularly distressing is that this supports the GraphOn Patent for Remoting Windows Applications. But that does not appear to have anything to do with WINE...

The article does not indicate anything about WINE being downright eliminated, only that the GraphOn software will get added in.

It is not self-evident that WINE becomes of no value; a major value to WINE to Corel should in permitting Win32 software to be recompiled using libwine so that they may be deployed as native Linux applications.

In contrast, the GraphOn Linux Client to Bridges software is not a tool to allow Windows software to run on Linux; it is merely a tool to allow Windows software to run on Windows NT, and then display on Linux.

The new Linux client runs Windows applications remotely

Essentially, this provides the same sort of functionality as the Citrix ICA protocol, or Microsoft's Hydra.

What is particularly distressing is that this supports the GraphOn Patent for Remoting Windows Applications. But that does not appear to have anything to do with WINE...

Let them know how we all plan to run out and purchase their products.

Contact Rusty Keller today.

PR masquerading as news. Read the release:

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-chin a991102.html