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Since i am the Greek that made the comment you reply to:

here's the context. The reason they were showing a song sung in Greece from the 50s with pictures from that era is because it was before immigrants came, e.g. when the country was Greeks only

Yes, it was to show how it was before huge numbers of Muslim ILLIGAL immigrants came (we had LEGAL immigrants -some of them black people- decades now), and how nice it was before.

The subtext is "Things were better before immigrants came, so we should send them away".

There was no "subtext" (not even a text!) - just a photo and a love song. It is from a Greek nationalist political party that has a stated plan to forbit illegal immigration, elected in parliament ranking third in votes, that uploads in its official channel a video with a photography of an Athens center square in the 50's and a love song from that era with the lyrics (roughly translated by me) "I wish you could come back again, even for just a night". If it is censored just for that video, HOW THE FUCK CAN PARTISIPATE DEMOCRATICALY ECUALLY?.

I guess the question is, is a segregationist message hate speech? In the United States it most certainly is. We have a long history of what's called "Separate by Equal" between our black and white populations where things were anything but equal.

We in Greece are not the USA, we in Greece have a long history (much longer than even the existance of USA...) of Muslims trying to exterminate us, and we don't even talking about Greek citizens but for ILLIGAL IMMIGRANTS. Do you understand the huge differances?

Not sure about Greece, but I'm inclined to agree with Youtube here.

Sure you are agreing with YouTube - you are agree that if you do not agree with a political view you censored it.

But (since i don't try to convince anyone to become a Greek right-wing nationalist like me!), you just make my point: YouTube is left-wing...

Nothing more, nothing less. You (personaly and YouTube) even have the right to be left-wing and censor the opposing views - just don't pretend it is not happening (then we can even be friends - if you want).

Now that we have solved the Greek YouTube problems, you can promote the Democratic party and anti-Trump propaganda - just don't pretend that it is not happening (because you make me, a Greek that don't really like Trump, angry, and you "cut the throats" of your fellow USA citizens that are Republicans/voted for Trump ).

YouTube is left-wing - o.k.?

here's the context. The reason they were showing a song sung in Greece from the 50s with pictures from that era is because it was before immigrants came, e.g. when the country was Greeks only. The subtext is "Things were better before immigrants came, so we should send them away".

I guess the question is, is a segregationist message hate speech? In the United States it most certainly is. We have a long history of what's called "Separate by Equal" between our black and white populations where things were anything but equal. Not sure about Greece, but I'm inclined to agree with Youtube here.

as relevant as your reply to the topic of what people think of Germany

http://fortune.com/2014/10/22/...
http://greece.greekreporter.co...

Oh look. I'm entirely on fucking topic regarding the sharing of wealth. So sorry for breaking your shitty false narrative.

By a democratically appointed parliament made of members of the nation states?

Sure. Remind me, who democratically elected Juncker?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

Shit, if you want to list good things the EU has achieved then by all means do that. But at least try including some basic checkable fucking facts.

Nah, mass surveillance is actually needed, otherwise it's hard to pick out suspicious patterns. Writing as anon b/c of former anti-money landering work. Crimes that are being perpetrated by networks are more feasibly detected if information on all is aggregated. By the way, the EU AML directives also mandate banks to try to discern patterns on their entire client base (not just on those already suspicious). Even with this, the whole thing fails because much of this monitoring is at a bank level; the nation level analysis already works with impoverished information. E.g. if participants of a money laundering ring are all at the same bank, it's easy to pick up; however if each ring member is at a different bank, the ring nature, and maybe the entire laundering activity, can go undetected by the bank. Since no bank will then report suspicion to the FIU (e.g. country level investigation agency) nothing will be suspicious at the FIU either (well... they still have access to SWIFT/SEPA/etc).

Also, crime is not like an exclusively contagious infection, where network adjacency and involvement is needed for a new member or cell to become active. Anyone anywhere can plot whatever hideous plans they have. So it's not good enough to monitor only those who already warrant monitoring, or those who come in contact with them.

In the age of Internet, information and religious fanaticism spreads quickly. Did you know that a large corner of Europe, the Balkans, has a bunch of countries with 10-90% muslim population, and even according to very politically correct analysis (where they accept self-reporting on religion, but there may be a lot more muslims that don't reveal or participate, than non-muslims who report as muslim for the heck of it) Western Europe is on a journey from around 5% to 10% muslim in like a decade.

http://greece.greekreporter.co...

So there is an incredibly large, distributed population, many of whom can be 'good muslims' but radicalized later. Also, non-muslim people are not immune from committing mass murders either.

So how can you stop a perp in the making, unless you monitor the as yet law abiding citizen? Sure you can say, 'target people who transfer money to extremists' or 'who buy weapons' or 'who browse the internet for bomb making' etc. but many of these alone don't necessarily corroborate suspicion, or prone to incredibly high false alarms, however, they may be more revealing as a faint but emerging pattern across modalities (phone calls, bank transfers, journeys, browsing, purchases etc.).

Even then, nothing at the moment can stop the one-person terrorist, who has no violent history, grabs a legally owned kitchen knife, and goes into crowded places and possibly kill dozens or hundreds before stopped (not possible against participants of a heavy metal concert or a krav maga training session, but people in hospitals, women, children etc. are more defenseless).

If somebody thinks mass surveillance isn't needed or isn't useful, they're wrong. Also, if he think we're in the age of mass surveillance, he's also wrong. You ain't seen nothing yet. Given sustained acts of massacring civilians, everybody will be tracked down to the inch, all the time.

As an early example: there are people who deal with how to identify if somebody carries a weapon - from the gait, or holding the hand protectively or conceaingly, e.g. http://lifehacker.com/know-how... - does anybody think there aren't developments and products that apply stuff like this to automatic CCTV analysis? Or face recognition? What if you extrapolate the terrorist and school shooting trends (e.g. flat or growing), and extrapolate what can be monitored inexpensivey?

“In the public sector, 7.91% of pensioners retire between the ages of 26 and 50, 23.64% between 51 and 55, and 43.53% between 56 and 61. In IKA, 4.44% of pensioners retire between the ages of 26 and 50, 12.83% retire between 51 and 55, and 58.61% retire between 56 and 61. Meanwhile, in the so-called healthy funds, 91.6% of people retire before the national retirement age limit,” [labor minister] Vroutsis said.

With respect, it falls into exactly the same category as the weirdo here (forgot his name) who uses the recent financial problems as an excuse to frequently assert that all Greeks are lazy - which is a pretty strange thing for anyone, especially an American to say.

The problem my dear friend is that stereotypes/generalizations (both Greek words by the way!) may be correct. For example, we Greeks are wrongly strereotyped as "lazy", but we should be rightly stereotyped as (at least) "unproductive" (source). Similarly, when people accuse us Greeks for tax evasion, while i pay my taxes "religiously", i can't argue with them because most Greeks do it.

Similarly the "social justice warrior" absurdity fits the personality of almost nobody that actually gives a shit about social justice. It's a very strange strawman. The only people I've seen that came close were kids in University politics when I had the misfortune to be exposed to such stuff some decades ago.

Yes, "kids in university politics" are traditionally the most common "SJW's", but (at least in Greece/Europe) plenty of other kind of "SJW" groups exist also - i don't know if you know about the European left-wing (or, at least, a major part of it), but in my country many people describe themselves as SJW's with pride.

Meanwhile people who just want to see rapists behind bars get the SJW insult directed at them.

Hmmm... in Europe/Greece, our SJW's are clearly the people who want the opposite!

I think that i understand the "spirit" of your comment and i may agree with it in some degree. But as a Greek (and European), when i use the term "SJW" (a term used as a self-description -translated word by word in Greek!- by those communists that persecuted my family in our civil war, and still existing as a party in our parliament), i do it in a specific meaning. I am a liberal (...and a nationalist!) - "lost in translation" terminologies, different degrees of extremism (from both wings), other cultural/social differences, create a gap in understanding between European-Americans/Greeks-British/etc. I would try to keep those term to a minimum use, because you are right, they create a problem. It is just convenient to have a term that describes a groups - i hope someone will find some that does not give a negative meaning to "social justice" (but please remember: at least in the case i described, SJW's themselves use it!).

There's another article here, which contains this quote from the prime minister:

This is a monument with unique features: A surrounding peribolos of 497 meters, almost a perfect circle carved in Thassos marble. The Lion of Amphipolis is 5.20 meters high; let’s imagine it as being on the top of the tomb

That article also shows a picture with a partial glimpse of the entrance. This article from the same site has a picture of the lion, and the video down below is basically a slideshow of pictures of the tomb site. There's another article here with another exterior picture. The site of ancient Amphipolis is here, on the land surrounded by the river (you can zoom in and see the ruins of the acropolis). Based on the pictures in the articles, it looks like the tomb itself is just northeast of the site, here.

I'm not an archaeologist, I just play one on the internet.

There's another article here, which contains this quote from the prime minister:

This is a monument with unique features: A surrounding peribolos of 497 meters, almost a perfect circle carved in Thassos marble. The Lion of Amphipolis is 5.20 meters high; let’s imagine it as being on the top of the tomb

That article also shows a picture with a partial glimpse of the entrance. This article from the same site has a picture of the lion, and the video down below is basically a slideshow of pictures of the tomb site. There's another article here with another exterior picture. The site of ancient Amphipolis is here, on the land surrounded by the river (you can zoom in and see the ruins of the acropolis). Based on the pictures in the articles, it looks like the tomb itself is just northeast of the site, here.

I'm not an archaeologist, I just play one on the internet.

I doubt it, Bankers rule, HSBC probably dictated all the terms and their directors probably think the US owes them an apology, or something.

If any list did go over it probably looked like:
Mr D.Duck. PO Box 11198745.3, Caymen Islands. 10Million
Mrs O.Oil, PO Box 7645332, Dubai. 12Million.
etc..
And has mysteriously disappeared, or fallen behind the sofa, anyway.

You don't understand much about Greece, and neither does the BBC. Greece is all about corruption. When you read 'self-employed' it means that they are receiving benefits for their 'rural' activity, chosen not out of self-preference but because it's easy to rip the state off with aid, it means they are cashing government checks to 'care' for elderly people and when the social workers go to check up on them the 'bait' is shuttled among households before the workers arrive. It means they keep cashing pensions for dead people. It means taxi drivers cash money for disabilities like blindness while wroking, of course getting paid black money for the rides. Most never report any positive income. The corruption was and is widespread because a very significant portion of them are uneducated and grew up in a culture of corruption. They will never be able to compete with central/northern europe in less than two generations (more, realistically, knowing that other societies will likeliy not keep static) because even the young know that a university degree means no security at all, or a better job, and that being the son or the fiancee of someone popular and powerful is the way to go. This is the real situation in those countries and it doesn't register with more productive and sophisticated societies because they can't comprehend that corruption is locally better than clean business and public transparency.

This cultural mismatch between the south and the north is to blame in part for this crisis' impact here because since the beginning it's been known that Greece cooked their books, first to get into the EU, then diverting the enormous amounts of money received from the EU that never went into increasing productivity, R&D, infrastructure or education at any level. The EU officials believed, in their cultural blindness, that the outpour of money would turn them into little germans. Just like the swedes did with immigrants coming into their country, where there are now ghettos in which foreign people have lived off government money without even learning the language, for two decades. We in the developed world take it as a little bit of an affront to receive public aid and we don't want to stay long in that situation. We raise on our feet and find a job and that's cultural. Other cultures think we are stupid for getting up every weekday at 7 and working harder than they will ever be able to understand. They just take the free checks and keep on living in the ghetto because money is not enough. Education is needed also and this is what you are not getting about greeks: they think corruption and ripping each other off are okay. It really works as long as there is free money and now they are a disheveled society running around with little direction, with a nazi (yes, nazi) party almost getting a majority in last year's election. Look it up. After everything that's happened they are still okay believing it's *immigrants* that rob them of their 'wealth'. If someone calls the police in Greece they are so overworked that they will recommend calling the nazis if you are a native. Look here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/28/greek-police-victims-neo-nazi and here: http://greece.greekreporter.com/2012/05/11/more-than-half-of-police-officers-voted-for-neo-nazi-party I repeat: *NAZIS* almost got the parliament in lats year's elections. This is how unsophisticated and delusional the society is.

I came across this about a week ago: http://greece.greekreporter.com/2012/05/11/more-than-half-of-police-officers-voted-for-neo-nazi-party/
It says that half of the Greek police force voted for the neo-nazis. I realize that this is only one datapoint and it's in Greece specifically, but I think it's an international phenomenon that I have long suspected: the people who are attracted to the policing profession tend to have somewhat fascistoid tendencies. I'm sure there are some great cops out there who became a cop because they wanted to help people, but there also seems to a ton of bad apples within the police force, regardless of country. Of course police violence can't entirely be blamed on the officers, the politicians and the higher-ups set the policies that enable such bad behavior. I think Norway and the UK have the right idea - don't allow officers to carry around guns in their everyday work, I think this simple measure could deter some of the people attracted to the profession for its monopoly on legal violence.