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Here is a list of articles and publications, most of them pointing issues in vaccines and in what is commonly said about them. For me it is a very good entry point for those interested in criticism against vaccines, no matter if you are against vaccines or if you are just curious to know the arguments. Of course most of the articles and claims are categorized as pseudo-science (IMO it is such a sensitive issue that any criticism to vaccines is labeled as anti-science or pseudo-science even before their arguments are appropriately considered).

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The FDA is not in the game is regulating if only safe and effective products can be on the market. Look at psych drugs for example. The companies market the drugs in a very similar fashion as the TC has seen products not FDA approved marketed. What I have noticed about the medical industry is it's all snake oils and magic bullets, for profit. When I was a child they showed videos in elementary school on this issue, highlighting medicine in the 1800s, which consistent of people marketing hocus pocus. Alleged doctors would go around looking for "sick" people to cure, they might only dose the person with some morphine or other deadly chemical cocktail, the previously bedridden individual would then be shown as up and walking and the doctor proclaimed he was "cured." Then days later, the kid drops dead, highlighting the snake oil/magic bullet industry. Other techniques included performing surgeries that actually seriously harmed the individual, leaving them in veggie state and whatnot, ie cutting nerves or brain up (lobotomy). The individual would be a walking zombie of their performer self, proclaimed as cured, then deaths often ensued. Removal of organs and other abuses also occurred.

Today the industry funnily operates the exact same way. Companies look for chemicals or surgeries they can market as cures, and they train themselves to perform those "treatments" but in reality, most of the treatments don't work and aren't treatment. A handful are, such as bacterial killing agents, fungus killing agents, virus killing agents, but others such as "heart burn treatments" do more harm than good. Pain relief are prescribed to people who have only minor pain and don't need any chemical for it. A person might have a surgery to remove an organ or tissue that was healthy, to treat a specific problem, which then leads to other disabilities and malfunctions because the person actually really needed that organ or tissue even if there was some underlining disorder the doctor had attributed to the organ or tissue. I read a dreaded case of this happening to a women in UK recently.

Back to the case of psych drugs - the largest snake oil/magic bullet farce industry around with purely fictional marketing for every drug on the market, they market the drugs as treating schizophrenia/anxiety/bipolar/depression, however the industries own studies prove the drugs don't even begin to treat these issues, kill over 500,000+ elderly annually, reduce 25 years average from the persons life, kill 1 in 2 to 1 in 3, reduce recovery rates from 80% for none drug users to 5% to drug users, induce 75,000 heart attacks annually and prevent survival during those attacks, cause 15 times more suicide than reported by the industry, cause severe brain damage/vein swelling/scar tissue build up in the brain/fluid build up in the brain/etc, induce violence and suicides, are nothing but petroleum byproducts being spun as treatments, etc. The studies going back decades prove that alternative none drug based treatments work better, such as psychotherapy, or even giving the person money to procure housing and other basic needs. Doctors in the mental health field typically diagnose mental illness falsely, when in reality the person is suffering from other issues like poverty and political matters that have caused them

Actual harm to people who were vaccinated? Yeah, I thought that was impossible.

Tell me again how vaccinated people shouldn't be getting the diseases they are vaccinated against.

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Don't let facts (science) get in the way of sciency religion.

Every study that comes out continues to prove how safe and effective vaccines are. They prove beyond any legitimate doubt that vaccines are so effective that the very small segment of the population that cannot tolerate them are effectively shielded by the herd immunity. There are absolutely no legitimate studies that question the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.

On the other hand, there is an epidemic of willful ignorance when it comes to vaccinations. A large segment of the population flat out refuses to believe that they've been duped by someone trying to sell something. They refuse to admit that the science is overwhelming and undeniable. They flat out refuse to acknowledge facts staring them in the face. But, sadly, that's a disease that is impossible to overcome.

If you pro-vaccine people keep lying to us all the time I will stop listening to you. This is why I am not getting every vaccine recommended, not because I think there is a autism link. Merck, the company that makes the Mumps vaccine has been caught lying about the effectiveness of its' vaccine so it won't loose its' monopoly making it. They will tell you it is 95% effective, but it is well less that that, perhaps as low as 33%. Of course they tell everybody in the media that the outbreaks were due to vaccinated people, when in reality as many as 77% of the infected in the outbreak were vaccinated.

We also have countries like China where they mandate vaccination. They still have outbreaks of measles there even though 99% of the people are vaccinated. So again, this thing about herd immunity turns out to be a lie. And cigaretts don't cause cancer!

Do you have any citations for your first paragraph? It looks like utter nonsense to me. For example, people aren't necessarily immune to a disease after getting it.

Immunity against measles in populations of women and infants in Poland. Low titers of measles antibody in mothers whose infants suffered from measles before eligible age for measles vaccination. Outbreaks of Measles have occurred in schools with 99% vaccination rates.

As far as your second paragraph goes, the useful question is not "Does the MMR vaccine kill more people than measles kills in a mostly immunized population?" but rather "Does the MMR vaccine kill more people than measles would kill in a mostly unimmunized population?".

Yes, I have thought about that. Most people are vaccinated for Measles so there are a lot less people getting it that would otherwise if the whole population were not vaccinated. But still, the primary cause of problems from Measles is due to the complications that arise from things like dehydration or poor nutrition. Ask your older relatives how many people they knew when younger that died of Measles. I bet you won't find any. Everybody got it and it wasn't a big deal then. Today it is made out to be a big deal. If you are some starving African kid with no medical attention it can be a problem. But that kid probably doesn't have access to the MMR shot anyway. Here in the USA we have good nutrition and access to medical care. Complications from Measles would be rather rare.

Severe complications from measles can be avoided through supportive care that ensures good nutrition, adequate fluid intake and treatment of dehydration with WHO-recommended oral rehydration solution. This solution replaces fluids and other essential elements that are lost through diarrhoea or vomiting. Antibiotics should be prescribed to treat eye and ear infections, and pneumonia.

All children in developing countries diagnosed with measles should receive two doses of vitamin A supplements, given 24 hours apart. This treatment restores low vitamin A levels during measles that occur even in well-nourished children and can help prevent eye damage and blindness. Vitamin A supplements have been shown to reduce the number of deaths from measles by 50%.

While Monsanto had to back off of Roundup resistant GMO wheat, it doesn't mean farmers don't use it on their crops. If it is sprayed on just before harvest, the plants seem to recognize they are dying so they pump all they have into the seed heads. Yield is increased. Since it is done so close to harvest, the glyphosate stays on the wheat kernels and is now in your bread. BR> This would be ok if glyphosate was biologically destroyed as Monsanto claims. Unfortunately it appears to accumulate in the human body. It even shows up in mother's breast milk: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/bl... This article shows a possible mechanism for causing mammary tumors: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/bl... If those don't give you pause for thought, here is a URL that lists multiple abstracts and articles about the effects of glyphosate: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/to... I avoid glyphosate as much as possible, which is really hard to do.

While Monsanto had to back off of Roundup resistant GMO wheat, it doesn't mean farmers don't use it on their crops. If it is sprayed on just before harvest, the plants seem to recognize they are dying so they pump all they have into the seed heads. Yield is increased. Since it is done so close to harvest, the glyphosate stays on the wheat kernels and is now in your bread. BR> This would be ok if glyphosate was biologically destroyed as Monsanto claims. Unfortunately it appears to accumulate in the human body. It even shows up in mother's breast milk: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/bl... This article shows a possible mechanism for causing mammary tumors: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/bl... If those don't give you pause for thought, here is a URL that lists multiple abstracts and articles about the effects of glyphosate: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/to... I avoid glyphosate as much as possible, which is really hard to do.

While Monsanto had to back off of Roundup resistant GMO wheat, it doesn't mean farmers don't use it on their crops. If it is sprayed on just before harvest, the plants seem to recognize they are dying so they pump all they have into the seed heads. Yield is increased. Since it is done so close to harvest, the glyphosate stays on the wheat kernels and is now in your bread. BR> This would be ok if glyphosate was biologically destroyed as Monsanto claims. Unfortunately it appears to accumulate in the human body. It even shows up in mother's breast milk: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/bl... This article shows a possible mechanism for causing mammary tumors: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/bl... If those don't give you pause for thought, here is a URL that lists multiple abstracts and articles about the effects of glyphosate: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/to... I avoid glyphosate as much as possible, which is really hard to do.

Get used to it. Requiring everyone to be injected so you might maybe be safer? That's a No Go. Adding insult to injury, those injections contain known poisons, are of questionable effectiveness, and there exists a substantial body of evidence pointing to collateral damage such as autism.

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It goes without saying that the moronic get what they deserve, though sadly, when herd immunity is compromised, sometimes the innocent (those who cannot be inoculated) pay the price too.

Lets be clear here, the current hysteria is about some 175 cases, vs 60 last year.
Hardly a herd immunity issue.

Also, only 90% of those 175 cases were NON vaccinated, which means that there is a significant vaccine failure rate of around 17.5 percent.

There are increasing reports of vaccine failures including here and here and here

So yeah, there are too many doubters out there who endanger their children. But the numbers we are talking about are already extremely low. More people are killed by bee stings each year.

And there is no such thing as 'vaccination', no matter how much you want to BELIEVE there is.

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/2013-measles-outbreak-failing-vaccine-not-failure-vaccinate1