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Always consider the messenger. There's a reason why online polls tend to favor the far left view.

I wonder how long this post is going to be readable??

Environment - they may mean well, but their lack of scientific knowledge about the environment leads them to support all kinds of ideas that sound good on the surface, but would in fact be detrimental to the environment. e.g. their endorsement of biofuels.

Still gullibly eating MSM sound bites?

This tragic little Energy (Fuels, Levies, and References) Biofuel Obligation Repeal Bill, rushed through all its stages under urgency by a Minister of Energy and Resources who is ignorant of most aspects of his portfolio--apart from perhaps sexy coal--will do exactly the opposite of what the Minister says it will do. It will replace the potentially sustainable local industry--stable, secure and well known--with intermittent imports of biofuels from unknown sources, which are likely to include palm oil from South-east Asia grown where the tropical forests, the last refuge of the orang-utan, used to grow, and corn ethanol with a higher carbon footprint than petroleum, subsidised by the US Government. That is what this bill will do

Looks like she's done her homework to me.

Freedom - Uhhhhh.... do you know anything about the greens at all?

Green MP Keith Locke is calling for an inquiry into the Police Special Investigation Group following evidence it is planting paid informants in legitimate protest groups.

This morning the Sunday Star-Times carried details of activities of a Police informer who infiltrated and spied upon Greenpeace and groups active on animal rights, climate change and peace issues. The informer was operating under the instructions of the Police Special Investigation Group.

"Such Stasi tactics are unacceptable in New Zealand," said Mr Locke, the party's Police spokesperson.

"Peace and environmental protesters are the conscience of society, not enemies of the state.

I know it is very hard for you to digest more than a sound bite, but try actually read the whole of Gordon Campbell's analysis of the Zaoui case. Oh yes, Campbell is the Green's media rep. Oh yes, What is the difference between myself and Zaoui? I have a letter of recommendation from a police force that murdered thousands and Zaoui is a democratically elected representative. Guess who the Labour (and certainly the National) parties imprisoned?

NZ has one of the highest prison populations on the planet (tiny compared to Gulag America I know), but which parties want to build more prisons?

Opposing better education for a small elite, yes they oppose that bitterly.

Good. They support better education for all, personally this policy will help my kids quite a bit.

Environment - they may mean well, but their lack of scientific knowledge about the environment leads them to support all kinds of ideas that sound good on the surface, but would in fact be detrimental to the environment. e.g. their endorsement of biofuels.

Still gullibly eating MSM sound bites?

This tragic little Energy (Fuels, Levies, and References) Biofuel Obligation Repeal Bill, rushed through all its stages under urgency by a Minister of Energy and Resources who is ignorant of most aspects of his portfolio--apart from perhaps sexy coal--will do exactly the opposite of what the Minister says it will do. It will replace the potentially sustainable local industry--stable, secure and well known--with intermittent imports of biofuels from unknown sources, which are likely to include palm oil from South-east Asia grown where the tropical forests, the last refuge of the orang-utan, used to grow, and corn ethanol with a higher carbon footprint than petroleum, subsidised by the US Government. That is what this bill will do

Looks like she's done her homework to me.

Freedom - Uhhhhh.... do you know anything about the greens at all?

Green MP Keith Locke is calling for an inquiry into the Police Special Investigation Group following evidence it is planting paid informants in legitimate protest groups.

This morning the Sunday Star-Times carried details of activities of a Police informer who infiltrated and spied upon Greenpeace and groups active on animal rights, climate change and peace issues. The informer was operating under the instructions of the Police Special Investigation Group.

"Such Stasi tactics are unacceptable in New Zealand," said Mr Locke, the party's Police spokesperson.

"Peace and environmental protesters are the conscience of society, not enemies of the state.

I know it is very hard for you to digest more than a sound bite, but try actually read the whole of Gordon Campbell's analysis of the Zaoui case. Oh yes, Campbell is the Green's media rep. Oh yes, What is the difference between myself and Zaoui? I have a letter of recommendation from a police force that murdered thousands and Zaoui is a democratically elected representative. Guess who the Labour (and certainly the National) parties imprisoned?

NZ has one of the highest prison populations on the planet (tiny compared to Gulag America I know), but which parties want to build more prisons?

Opposing better education for a small elite, yes they oppose that bitterly.

Good. They support better education for all, personally this policy will help my kids quite a bit.

Environment - they may mean well, but their lack of scientific knowledge about the environment leads them to support all kinds of ideas that sound good on the surface, but would in fact be detrimental to the environment. e.g. their endorsement of biofuels.

Still gullibly eating MSM sound bites?

This tragic little Energy (Fuels, Levies, and References) Biofuel Obligation Repeal Bill, rushed through all its stages under urgency by a Minister of Energy and Resources who is ignorant of most aspects of his portfolio--apart from perhaps sexy coal--will do exactly the opposite of what the Minister says it will do. It will replace the potentially sustainable local industry--stable, secure and well known--with intermittent imports of biofuels from unknown sources, which are likely to include palm oil from South-east Asia grown where the tropical forests, the last refuge of the orang-utan, used to grow, and corn ethanol with a higher carbon footprint than petroleum, subsidised by the US Government. That is what this bill will do

Looks like she's done her homework to me.

Freedom - Uhhhhh.... do you know anything about the greens at all?

Green MP Keith Locke is calling for an inquiry into the Police Special Investigation Group following evidence it is planting paid informants in legitimate protest groups.

This morning the Sunday Star-Times carried details of activities of a Police informer who infiltrated and spied upon Greenpeace and groups active on animal rights, climate change and peace issues. The informer was operating under the instructions of the Police Special Investigation Group.

"Such Stasi tactics are unacceptable in New Zealand," said Mr Locke, the party's Police spokesperson.

"Peace and environmental protesters are the conscience of society, not enemies of the state.

I know it is very hard for you to digest more than a sound bite, but try actually read the whole of Gordon Campbell's analysis of the Zaoui case. Oh yes, Campbell is the Green's media rep. Oh yes, What is the difference between myself and Zaoui? I have a letter of recommendation from a police force that murdered thousands and Zaoui is a democratically elected representative. Guess who the Labour (and certainly the National) parties imprisoned?

NZ has one of the highest prison populations on the planet (tiny compared to Gulag America I know), but which parties want to build more prisons?

Opposing better education for a small elite, yes they oppose that bitterly.

Good. They support better education for all, personally this policy will help my kids quite a bit.

now that i got your attention..

probably the best insulation for the lowest resource burning cost is hemp..

http://www.greens.org.nz/campaigns/cannabis/020915 hemp-photos.htm

not to mention bio-plastics, bio-fuel, bread, cereal, milk, tofu (its all safer to eat than soy beans and grows faster)

and as you all know 25,000 and more other products..

imagine how many jobs could be created globally to grow hemp..
poor countries can actually learn about this weed which they can build a utopia upon instead of starving or relying on money... what do they care what money is... its fake.. piece of paper with some cotton and plastic coating on it made from oil, the 3 things humans love to consume..
anyways

a small list

http://torontohemp.com/hempuses.htm

what other plant can do that...

ps: it doesn't need pesticides because its a natural pesticide it grows fast (like a weed, in pretty much any climate), grows denser than any forest can (we're still cutting down trees for lumber which eventually gets recycled then we wipe our asses on it... there doesnt take a fuckin scientist to figure that one out) hemp has been used for recorded 10,000 years, but there was a religious war *cough cough* that sought out for hemp to be the devil weed... why?

read the Emperor Wears No Clothes by Jack Herer http://www.jackherer.com/
if you dont like reading
Magic.Weed.-.History.Of.Marijuana - documentary has a summarized rendition of what happened to the worlds most useful and renewable resource

i can rant on and on about how the oil,pharmaceutical pills ,alcohol, tobacco, and many other big industries which are killing us make roughly $1,000,000,000,000 yearly but ill leave the rest to you imagination

the cannabis plant family can do all of this, food,fuel,medicine,entertainment,housing..
some governments dont like it because, we can grow our own.. fuel, food, medicine, entertainment, housing...

if you like it or not, hemp is already getting bigger everyday
in bc canada we just got a new 200 acre hemp farm that will first produce enough dietary supplements and hemp yarn to be shiped globally, followed by hemp oils for plastics, soaps and fuel =)

The submitted story doesn't make sense. I can't find any mention of the Greens being upset about the govt Novell contract in that article. In fact the original Green Party press release praises the govt decision. Govt software deal great news for Open Source cause in NZ http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/PR9324.html I think a more accurate story would have been... New Zealand weekly magazine 'National Business Review' has attacked the NZ Greens for supporting open source. In a long article they reproduce many lies and misconceptions about OSS - is there a media kit that M$ supply that makes it easier for such journalists to write this crap? The Greens may not completely get OSS, but the NBR don't either. Have a read of this pathetic article and wonder why the journalist has his face up M$ arse.

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Diary of a Debacle
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