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Re:Good question
And yet the CDC did exactly that research. https://www.nap.edu/read/18319...
Guess what? Guns help prevent crime more than they cause it. And we're not talking about indirect deterrence here where knowing a populace is armed keeps potential criminals scared. We're only talking about direct defensive uses of firearms.
If you can't be arsed to read the whole thing, Guns and Ammo summarized it here http://www.gunsandammo.com/pol...
Funny, because for over 20 years, the CDC was prohibited from studying gun violence. Yes, the NRA has bought legislation that prevents any money the CDC gets from going into gun violence research.
So obviously the CDC did not conduct the research, because they're not allowed to. They're allowed to contract it out for no money, which basically means really self-interested researchers (i.e., industry) gets to write an opinion piece about it.
Your article is dated to 2013, and the CDC has not conducted any gun violence research since 1996 (Dickey Amendment).
And all my article states is the AMA is lobbying for its appeal since 2016, because one really cannot make any sort of judgements without proper research. Of course, the NRA opposes this, almost as if they're worried about the real truth, that it might be the next cigarettes, or leaded gasoline, or climate change, or something. Or it might be because their whole set of mottoes end up being lies...
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Re:Good question
And yet the CDC did exactly that research. https://www.nap.edu/read/18319...
Guess what? Guns help prevent crime more than they cause it. And we're not talking about indirect deterrence here where knowing a populace is armed keeps potential criminals scared. We're only talking about direct defensive uses of firearms.
If you can't be arsed to read the whole thing, Guns and Ammo summarized it here http://www.gunsandammo.com/pol...
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Re: Yep - impersonation
That used to be the case, as others here have explained. After sandy hook, Obama made an executive order to give them 10 million for research, it was big at the time because they assumed it would confirm their beliefs.
Then it was never heard from again due to the results of the study.
Here's a short summary of their findings, link to the actual paper is in there as well.
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Re:Easily done:
Citation needed, I think.
PRIORITIES FOR RESEARCH TO REDUCE THE THREAT OF FIREARM-RELATED VIOLENCE
Snarky article about the findings: http://www.gunsandammo.com/politics/cdc-gun-research-backfires-on-obama/
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Re:99.99%, eh?
Oh wait. Yeah, I can live with the 1/10,000 chance because THOSE THINGS NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPEN EXCEPT IN YOUR IMAGINATION. Or do you think the "liberal media" is covering up the hundreds of thousands of people who use guns to prevent themselves from being stabbed in our (incredibly safe) country every day?
Actually it turns out that is generally true according to the recent CDC study. (I don't know about an actual cover-up, but clearly these stories are not being reported on.)
From the conservative angle:
http://www.gunsandammo.com/pol...
Same thing from a progressive angle:
http://www.slate.com/articles/...Interesting how both sides were basically surprised when we all just sat down to really look at the problem. They both had a spin to it, but nothing really fit the dialog from either side.
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Re:Seems perfectly reasonable
We have failed at our responsibility to safely possess firearms. We do not deserve them now.
Sorry son, you first.
Can you please tell me how much you will suffer?
Ohh, I don't know.. maybe because in New York I couldn't have my Springfield XDM? Looks like even though she tagged this guy with five rounds of
.38 out of a revolver that she'd have been toast had there been accomplices. You might bleat 'anecdote', I will say 'do your own research; home invasions are getting nastier and are a trend'.
The protection of yourself and your family is your responsibility. Nobody else's.
The cops are not your friend. They are not there to protect you; they are there to clean up the mess. And yes, I'll use the cliche: the police are there in minutes when seconds count. In addition, I don't understand law enforcement needs full-auto variants of the AR-15 since many cops can't shoot worth a shit anyway, let alone handle full auto (which is largely used for suppressive fire in war). We used to out-shoot them all the time when I was in the military, and I laugh at them now at our local range. A couple of departments mandate a couple of hundred rounds a practice per year; the average in my crew is about 1000-2000 a month, minimum (some of these guys who have money are running through 6k a month).. of 'real' calibers (not counting .22 LR) and we're 'casual' handgunners.
As for shotguns (because you just know somebody's going to go there..).. let me see you clear corners with a shotgun like I can my semi-auto pistol. Just let me see a shotgun muzzle coming around a corner.. and if you do the 'come around then bring it up' trick you're already in my tritium 3-dot sights. Mozambique Drill in effect.
Bottom line is: whatever the average flatfoot has access to as a duty weapon, I should have access to. The criminals have access to EVERYTHING. My weapons are secure, but if you manage to break into my house while I'm not there and use a plasma cutter to open my gun safe, then the problem is you, not me.
Please note: I'm all for background checks, closing the gunshow loophole, and deveoping a mechanism that keeps the crazies away from firepower, as well as enchancing penalties for people who do not keep their weapons secured.
I don't know where you live in Texas, but wherever it is (unless it's Austin) just stay in the closet about your views on weaponry. It will save you serious emotional distress. I've lived in Texas and Arizona, and we'd have openly mocked you. Maybe even made fun of you. ;) -
Re:Not Much Help Against the First Shot
There's no need to go into a panic so quickly.
Only if the city is a mere 180 meters (600 yards) "East" to "West" *. Nobody needs to be a gun nut to know city buildings' walls and gravity bring bullets to a stop sooner than you seem to think.
Even if everyone were our world's single 1.5-mile-record-holding war sniper, that killing shot had to compensate for 6 seconds of gravity and use a special long-distance rifle. An object (bullet) falls 177 meters in that time. The sniper managed to shave that downward path to only 120m. At 3 meters per floor, the bad guys need to secure a window from a 40 to 60 story building and/or shoot well computed arches into the sky. Average street tugs have training for close range guns, shotguns and maybe machine guns (ha!) and none of those tools are known for sniper-level ranges. Cities tend to be