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Don't be a moron.

hose "signs" that are being debated here have nothing to do with stopping school shootings of the kind being discussed here. The ban on guns in schools comes from "The Gun Free Schools Act" a law first passed way back in 1990. The idea was not that signs would stop people determined to come in and shoot up a school. That was barely even a concept at the time. The idea was that if merely having a gun on you near a school would carry a harsher penalty than elsewhere it would drive gang and drug activity away from schools.

Another benefit is that the law makes it unlawful for a someone *not* specifically licensed by the state they are in to carry a firearm concealed or not which prevents legal state to state reciprocity of concealed carry licenses and prevents states from having legal concealed or open carry without a license.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/docum...

IMPORTANT NOTE: Your New York State pistol license is only valid in the counties outside the 5
counties of New York City. Unless it is validated by New York City. You may not take your handguns into
the city, this includes Self Protection licensees, with a few exceptions.

From: http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newyork.pdf

Not according to Handgunlaw.us, and I'll take their well-researched word over an AC, unless you care to cite the actual statute?

... and also handgunlaws.us (which is usually pretty reliable) states that posted signs do not have the force of law in Florida unless the property is otherwise off-limits while carrying (the usual list consisting of bars & pubs, schools, hospitals etc).

I don't know about the US jurisdictions as I'm Swedish, but here the Self Defense laws are pretty harsh, you're only allowed to use violence to defend yourself to the extent it's necessary to defend yourself, any more then that and you're on the line for Assault/Manslaughter yourself.

Allow me to educate you (and myself, because I honestly don't know what applies to which US jurisdiction as there are so many) insofar as my knowledge stretches to New Mexico and the neighboring States. First, though, I will freely admit that US law is highly convoluted, because it largely depends on the State you're in. This is by design, and the States are granted a great deal of leeway--certainly enough such that a law that applies in one State doesn't in another. Further, even so much as transporting firearms across State lines may require special permits--or not at all. Of course, there's a much deeper discussion to all of this, and the primary reason I'm using US law as an example is because individual cited in the article resides in Pennsylvania.

That said, I have no idea what Pennsylvania law is with regards to use of lethal force, but in New Mexico at least, self defense is fairly lenient; IANAL, but as I understand it, if there is a clear and present danger to you or to others that a violent crime is to be committed, you may use lethal force. Yes, you will probably go to jail until it's sorted out; yes, you will probably have your firearm confiscated; yes, you may wind up going to court. However, all of these "mays" are circumstantial. In the case of a potential rape victim, I highly doubt the victim would be booked by law enforcement. Questioned, certainly, but the laws here as I understand them (as I'm sure they are in Arizona and Texas) have seen some revision specifically for circumstances of self defense and are undoubtedly much more lenient than they are in Sweden. Of course, there are limitations such as the Castle Doctrine and how it applies to personal property (the NM interpretation of it is generally more strict), but there have been some recent changes.

Notably, some years prior, Governor Richardson signed concealed carry into law. This means that as long as your are licensed and authorized by the State, you may carry a firearm concealed with you wherever you go (I do believe it's limited such that CCW is not allowed if you are or are going to drink alcohol and you can be jailed or fined) for the purposes of self defense. There are also many other places where you cannot carry as outlined here (PDF warning).

In NM, these are the applicable laws (as far as I know):

Excusable homicide
Justifiable homicide by public officer or public employee
Justifiable homicide by citizen
When homicide is excusable of justifiable defendant to be acquitted

In particular, NM Law section 30-2-7 may indicate some leniency compared to Sweden:

30-2-7. Justifiable homicide by citizen.
Homicide is justifiable when committed by any person in any of the following cases:
A. when committed in the necessary defense of his life, his family or his property, or in necessarily defending against any unlawful action directed against himself, his wife or family;
B. when committed in the lawful defense of himself or of another and when there is a reasonable ground to believe a design exists to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury against such person or another, and there is imminent danger that th

Incorrect regarding concealed-carry permits. Concealed-carry permits still exist in Arizona. They are not necessary for purposes of concealed-carry. However, a resident may opt to get a permit for purposes of permit reciprocity when traveling to other states.

Getting rid of permits entirely would be a terrible thing for Arizona residents.

http://handgunlaw.us/states/arizona.pdf

http://opencarry.org/ca.html

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/california.pdf

Yes, and?

The military is it's own animal. But in 38 states (the blue and yellow ones on the map) you can easily obtain a concealed carry permit as a civilian, provided that you aren't a felon or mental case. In some of the remaining states you can also obtain one, though you may have to jump through additional hoops. The only two states where you absolutely can't get one are Illinois and Wisconsin.

It's probable that in a few years that you will be able to obtain one in all 50 states. SCOTUS is on the verge of incorporating the 2nd amendment against the states. Once that happens we can begin to dismantle the unconstitutional restrictions placed on our right to keep and bear arms by some of the more urban states.

Point being, that you have whatever chance you are willing to give yourself. Personally I carry everywhere that it's legal to do so. I hope and pray that I never have to use it. Should the day come though I won't be cowering under a desk waiting to be murdered by some mental case or Mumbai copy-cat.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/ is a good site for CCW info.

I'm not sure on the number, I thought I heard 40 somewhere, after Kansas and Nebraska passed CCW laws. Either way, the number of states is increasing rapidly, as can be easily seen in this image. Only a few states are holding off.

I only wish more states (such as NH) would go the route of Vermont and Alaska when it comes to carrying concealed. :)

Despite PA's stance on concealed carry though, I hear that Philly is giving you guys a bad rep. Sorry to hear that, hope you can manage to convince them they'd be better off as a part of NY. ;)

http://www.handgunlaw.us/ is a good site for CCW info.

I'm not sure on the number, I thought I heard 40 somewhere, after Kansas and Nebraska passed CCW laws. Either way, the number of states is increasing rapidly, as can be easily seen in this image. Only a few states are holding off.

I only wish more states (such as NH) would go the route of Vermont and Alaska when it comes to carrying concealed. :)

Despite PA's stance on concealed carry though, I hear that Philly is giving you guys a bad rep. Sorry to hear that, hope you can manage to convince them they'd be better off as a part of NY. ;)