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Re:Usage taxes
Right and wrong. The current system in most countries is for media devices. Not hard drives.
That's what folks in verkkokauppa.com said when they argued against, and what they saw after the payment scheme was implemented. Their sales of external HDs crashed, essentially overnight and they don't even advertise them much anymore (they used to have one for sale almost every week).
At the same time many foreign sellers sell them for same prices.
Also the lack of price difference is most likely explained by model of your choice in the comparison. I have the drive in quesiton, and it's no longer manufactured, and hasn't been for a while (it's over a year old model). That's likely why hintaseuranta.fi has only found one copy of the drive and that's in a shop that has very bad reputation for keeping site info up to date in terms of availability and amazon lists as "2 remaining in stock" for 3rd party seller.
Here is the current generation that is actually available from retailers. Price difference is very noticeable (and unlike your comparison which lists two different models, I'm listing the same model: STAC2000200
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Goflex-Desk-3-5-inch-External/dp/B005ORY2SK/ref=pd_cp_computers_0 (89 GPB)
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/427574 (cheapest at 161 EUR)P.S. Pricerunner link is here but as usual pricerunner is out of date http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pl/36-2632328/Hard-Drives/Seagate-FreeAgent-GoFlex-Desk-2TB-Compare-Prices
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Re:Usage taxes
You don't pay these fees. You order from foreign webshops instead.
Almost every country in the EU has these fees, the exceptions being Luxemburg, UK, Ireland, and Cyprus, none of which is cheaper than buying the fee-paid price in Finland. Buying from outside the EU involves additional issues, such as hassles and paperwork to clear customs, and paying VAT on the shipping costs (which are always a lot higher per unit for small shipments to individuals than for bulk shipments to businesses).
In short, it's cheaper to buy a 2TB USB drive here (€90) including all taxes, than to buy one in the UK (£98). Shipping costs are lower within Finland than from the UK as well.
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Phone & service, cost comparison
So... Where are you finding a cellular service provider who doesn't charge you for the service?
Oh, wait. That's your $1960.(Yes, some fraction of that $1960 consists of the phone cost beyond the initial payment of $99, but not *all* of it by any stretch of the imagination.)
So try one of our smartphone contracts in Finland. For mine, the basic service costs euro0.66/month (yes, less than one euro). It includes true unlimited internet which costs an extra euro5/month (but there are no usage caps whatsoever). In combination with calls and text messages, it's a rare month when the total bill for this service exceeds euro10, including the unlimited internet.
So, over 24 months, this service would cost about euro240. Of course, you have to buy your phone separately, so spending about euro500 for a nice smartphone would bring the total to roughly euro740, which is US$970 today according to OANDA. In other words, at US$1960 you're overpaying by just about US$1000, even including the cost of the phone.
BTW, in some countries, you can get a rather better phone for rather less money - more pixels, more memory, similar size. For some reason, that particular Nokia phone is not for sale in the US or UK or Japan (or Germany, but is apparently a hot seller there, imported from vendors in Switzerland).
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Phone & service, cost comparison
So... Where are you finding a cellular service provider who doesn't charge you for the service?
Oh, wait. That's your $1960.(Yes, some fraction of that $1960 consists of the phone cost beyond the initial payment of $99, but not *all* of it by any stretch of the imagination.)
So try one of our smartphone contracts in Finland. For mine, the basic service costs euro0.66/month (yes, less than one euro). It includes true unlimited internet which costs an extra euro5/month (but there are no usage caps whatsoever). In combination with calls and text messages, it's a rare month when the total bill for this service exceeds euro10, including the unlimited internet.
So, over 24 months, this service would cost about euro240. Of course, you have to buy your phone separately, so spending about euro500 for a nice smartphone would bring the total to roughly euro740, which is US$970 today according to OANDA. In other words, at US$1960 you're overpaying by just about US$1000, even including the cost of the phone.
BTW, in some countries, you can get a rather better phone for rather less money - more pixels, more memory, similar size. For some reason, that particular Nokia phone is not for sale in the US or UK or Japan (or Germany, but is apparently a hot seller there, imported from vendors in Switzerland).
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in Finland
A list of mini-laptops with comparisons:
http://www.mbnet.fi/tuoteseuranta/index.aspx?rrid=1Availability was scarce in verkkokauppa:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/?page=http://www.verkkokauppa.com/main.php?path=tietokoneet%2Fkannettavat&title=Tietokoneet+/+Kannettavat&search=1&cat1=Tietokoneet&cat2=Kannettavat&cat3=LinuxSome sell Acer aspire one: http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/171402
Here's Asus:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/164709Lenovo T61 is pricier:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/81991MSI wind:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/79914You can check driver availability to about any laptop, even if it doesn't have linux preinstalled:
http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/My personal choice would be Asus Eee PC 901. Enough CPU and SSD-drives which are more tolerant to shaking and movement, in addition of being fast.
To play DVDs, an external drive would be needed:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=2585 ..commenting in the order that the device is supposed to work with Linux.DVD-drive compatibility chart:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/search_res.php?pattern=dvd -
in Finland
A list of mini-laptops with comparisons:
http://www.mbnet.fi/tuoteseuranta/index.aspx?rrid=1Availability was scarce in verkkokauppa:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/?page=http://www.verkkokauppa.com/main.php?path=tietokoneet%2Fkannettavat&title=Tietokoneet+/+Kannettavat&search=1&cat1=Tietokoneet&cat2=Kannettavat&cat3=LinuxSome sell Acer aspire one: http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/171402
Here's Asus:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/164709Lenovo T61 is pricier:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/81991MSI wind:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/79914You can check driver availability to about any laptop, even if it doesn't have linux preinstalled:
http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/My personal choice would be Asus Eee PC 901. Enough CPU and SSD-drives which are more tolerant to shaking and movement, in addition of being fast.
To play DVDs, an external drive would be needed:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=2585 ..commenting in the order that the device is supposed to work with Linux.DVD-drive compatibility chart:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/search_res.php?pattern=dvd -
in Finland
A list of mini-laptops with comparisons:
http://www.mbnet.fi/tuoteseuranta/index.aspx?rrid=1Availability was scarce in verkkokauppa:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/?page=http://www.verkkokauppa.com/main.php?path=tietokoneet%2Fkannettavat&title=Tietokoneet+/+Kannettavat&search=1&cat1=Tietokoneet&cat2=Kannettavat&cat3=LinuxSome sell Acer aspire one: http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/171402
Here's Asus:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/164709Lenovo T61 is pricier:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/81991MSI wind:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/79914You can check driver availability to about any laptop, even if it doesn't have linux preinstalled:
http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/My personal choice would be Asus Eee PC 901. Enough CPU and SSD-drives which are more tolerant to shaking and movement, in addition of being fast.
To play DVDs, an external drive would be needed:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=2585 ..commenting in the order that the device is supposed to work with Linux.DVD-drive compatibility chart:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/search_res.php?pattern=dvd -
in Finland
A list of mini-laptops with comparisons:
http://www.mbnet.fi/tuoteseuranta/index.aspx?rrid=1Availability was scarce in verkkokauppa:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/?page=http://www.verkkokauppa.com/main.php?path=tietokoneet%2Fkannettavat&title=Tietokoneet+/+Kannettavat&search=1&cat1=Tietokoneet&cat2=Kannettavat&cat3=LinuxSome sell Acer aspire one: http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/171402
Here's Asus:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/164709Lenovo T61 is pricier:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/81991MSI wind:
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/79914You can check driver availability to about any laptop, even if it doesn't have linux preinstalled:
http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/My personal choice would be Asus Eee PC 901. Enough CPU and SSD-drives which are more tolerant to shaking and movement, in addition of being fast.
To play DVDs, an external drive would be needed:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=2585 ..commenting in the order that the device is supposed to work with Linux.DVD-drive compatibility chart:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/search_res.php?pattern=dvd