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The problem is that the 20 people are not the people being linked to by the link. Those are senators. Yes, getting them to be opposed to broadcast flags is a good idea. But there's not point in flaming them, yet. (Even Trent Lott...)

As linked to elsewhere, here are the jerks who have sold their souls to media:

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361
Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540
John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372
Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699
Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155
Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361
Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464
Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936
John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135
Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231
Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Find out who your representative is, and make sure these people get nailed.

The problem is that the 20 people are not the people being linked to by the link. Those are senators. Yes, getting them to be opposed to broadcast flags is a good idea. But there's not point in flaming them, yet. (Even Trent Lott...)

As linked to elsewhere, here are the jerks who have sold their souls to media:

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361
Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540
John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372
Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699
Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155
Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361
Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464
Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936
John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135
Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231
Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Find out who your representative is, and make sure these people get nailed.

The problem is that the 20 people are not the people being linked to by the link. Those are senators. Yes, getting them to be opposed to broadcast flags is a good idea. But there's not point in flaming them, yet. (Even Trent Lott...)

As linked to elsewhere, here are the jerks who have sold their souls to media:

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361
Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540
John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372
Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699
Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155
Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361
Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464
Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936
John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135
Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231
Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Find out who your representative is, and make sure these people get nailed.

The problem is that the 20 people are not the people being linked to by the link. Those are senators. Yes, getting them to be opposed to broadcast flags is a good idea. But there's not point in flaming them, yet. (Even Trent Lott...)

As linked to elsewhere, here are the jerks who have sold their souls to media:

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361
Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540
John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372
Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699
Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155
Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361
Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464
Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936
John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135
Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231
Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Find out who your representative is, and make sure these people get nailed.

The problem is that the 20 people are not the people being linked to by the link. Those are senators. Yes, getting them to be opposed to broadcast flags is a good idea. But there's not point in flaming them, yet. (Even Trent Lott...)

As linked to elsewhere, here are the jerks who have sold their souls to media:

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361
Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540
John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372
Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699
Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155
Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361
Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464
Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936
John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135
Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231
Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Find out who your representative is, and make sure these people get nailed.

Let Congress feel the /. effect - email your senator or congressman/woman, especially if they're on the Senate Commerce Committee or the Telecommunications and the Internet Subcommittee.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts regarding the adoption of a "broadcast flag" system by the - Federa1"Commmricattons-Conunissi01r(FCC).

The "broadcast flag" is a combination of technical specifications and federal regulations designed to combat unauthorized redistribution of programming broadcast through digital television (DTV) signals. The goal of the flag was not to impede a consumer's ability to copy or use content lawfully in the home. Unfortunately, current technological limitations have the potential to hinder some activities which might normally be considered "fair use" under existing copyright law. Consumer rights and civil liberties groups worry about the possibility that content protections, such as broadcast flag, will limit the free flow of information and hinder First Amendment rights.

In October 2004, the American Library Association petitioned the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit to review the FCC's broadcast flag. The court of appeals reversed the FCC's broadcast flag system because the FCC only has authority to regulate communications, not devices that receive communications. At this time, there has been no legislation introduced in the House to reverse the court's ruling of American Library Association v. Federal Communications Commission.. Should legislation dealing with the issue of broadcast flags come before the full U.S. House of Representatives, I will be sure to give it thorough consideration.

I appreciate hearing from you. Please do not hesitate to contact me with any other concerns or questions. It is important to note, due to heightened security procedures resulting from Anthrax and Ricin incidents, mail to my U.S. Capitol office is significantly delayed. I encourage you to contact me via my website at http://www.house.gov/reichert/ to expedite your thoughts and I apologize for any inconvenience.

The "There are 20 law makers currently supporting the bill" link in the summary is incorrect. The twenty Senators listed on that site are the ones in the Commerce Commitee who will be voting on the Senate version of the DTV bill, and may or may not support the broadcast flag.

This article, however, was about a new push to get the Brodcast flag added to the DTV bill in the House Committee on Energy and Commerce , in particular in the Telecommunications and the Internet Subcommittee . The way that legislation works now-a-days is that there is rarely an opportunity to get a bill ammended when it goes before congress. All the formulation and ammending of bills happens in committee, and then the house and senate usually just give it an up or down vote without any modifications (but after a great deal of grand-standing). So these are the people who have the most influence on the final wording of the House version of the DTV bill. If you have representatives from your state in this committee you should definiately write them. Even if you don't it won't hurt to pick someone from the subcommittee and write them anyway.

The representatives listed by Mad Rain, above, is the correct list of supporting representatives - 20 of the 57 members of the House Commerce Committee. If they are in you district, they are the people you should writing letters of disgust, and let them know you will be voting against them in the next election.

In addition if your Senator is on the Senate Commerce Committee and you haven't written them yet on the broadcast flag, then you should, as they will be dealing with this issue as well.

Lastly if your senators and representatives are not on any of these committees you should write them anyway in case the bill makes it out of committee. Since we dont know an exact number for this bill yet, it helps if you know in what capacity they will be working with the bill, to help them identify what bill you are talking about. Keywords - Digital Television Bill, Broadcast Flag, Commerce Committee.

The "There are 20 law makers currently supporting the bill" link in the summary is incorrect. The twenty Senators listed on that site are the ones in the Commerce Commitee who will be voting on the Senate version of the DTV bill, and may or may not support the broadcast flag.

This article, however, was about a new push to get the Brodcast flag added to the DTV bill in the House Committee on Energy and Commerce , in particular in the Telecommunications and the Internet Subcommittee . The way that legislation works now-a-days is that there is rarely an opportunity to get a bill ammended when it goes before congress. All the formulation and ammending of bills happens in committee, and then the house and senate usually just give it an up or down vote without any modifications (but after a great deal of grand-standing). So these are the people who have the most influence on the final wording of the House version of the DTV bill. If you have representatives from your state in this committee you should definiately write them. Even if you don't it won't hurt to pick someone from the subcommittee and write them anyway.

The representatives listed by Mad Rain, above, is the correct list of supporting representatives - 20 of the 57 members of the House Commerce Committee. If they are in you district, they are the people you should writing letters of disgust, and let them know you will be voting against them in the next election.

In addition if your Senator is on the Senate Commerce Committee and you haven't written them yet on the broadcast flag, then you should, as they will be dealing with this issue as well.

Lastly if your senators and representatives are not on any of these committees you should write them anyway in case the bill makes it out of committee. Since we dont know an exact number for this bill yet, it helps if you know in what capacity they will be working with the bill, to help them identify what bill you are talking about. Keywords - Digital Television Bill, Broadcast Flag, Commerce Committee.

Good job. Bart Gordon is my representative. A Democrat, BTW. This issue crosses the aisles. I'm posting his information (and Marsha Blackburn's (Republican)- she's a TN rep as well) anonymously as I work for State Govt and wouldn't trust them not to make my life *ahem* inconvenient.

Bart Gordon
http://www.house.gov/gordon/index.shtml

Washington Office:
2304 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-4231 Fax: (202) 225 6887

Murfreesboro District Office:
305 W. Main St.
Murfreesboro, TN 37130
Phone: (615) 896-1986

Cookeville District Office:
15 South Jefferson,
Cookeville, TN 38501
Phone: (931) 528-5907

Gallatin District Office:
100 Public Square, Room B-100
Gallatin, TN 37066
Phone: (615) 451-5174

Marsha Blackburn
http://www.house.gov/blackburn/index.shtml

Washington Office:
509 Cannon Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
202-225-2811
202-225-3004 fax

Clarksville Office:
1850 Memorial Dr.
Clarksville, TN 37043
931-503-0391
931-503-0393 fax

Memphis Office:
7975 Stage Hills Blvd.
Suite 1
Memphis, TN 38133
901-382-5811
901-373-8215 fax

Franklin Office:
City Hall Mall
109 3rd Avenue South
Suite 117
Franklin, TN 37064
615-591-5161
615-599-2916 fax

Good job. Bart Gordon is my representative. A Democrat, BTW. This issue crosses the aisles. I'm posting his information (and Marsha Blackburn's (Republican)- she's a TN rep as well) anonymously as I work for State Govt and wouldn't trust them not to make my life *ahem* inconvenient.

Bart Gordon
http://www.house.gov/gordon/index.shtml

Washington Office:
2304 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-4231 Fax: (202) 225 6887

Murfreesboro District Office:
305 W. Main St.
Murfreesboro, TN 37130
Phone: (615) 896-1986

Cookeville District Office:
15 South Jefferson,
Cookeville, TN 38501
Phone: (931) 528-5907

Gallatin District Office:
100 Public Square, Room B-100
Gallatin, TN 37066
Phone: (615) 451-5174

Marsha Blackburn
http://www.house.gov/blackburn/index.shtml

Washington Office:
509 Cannon Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
202-225-2811
202-225-3004 fax

Clarksville Office:
1850 Memorial Dr.
Clarksville, TN 37043
931-503-0391
931-503-0393 fax

Memphis Office:
7975 Stage Hills Blvd.
Suite 1
Memphis, TN 38133
901-382-5811
901-373-8215 fax

Franklin Office:
City Hall Mall
109 3rd Avenue South
Suite 117
Franklin, TN 37064
615-591-5161
615-599-2916 fax

Below is a list of the Congresspeople and their districts. If you're not in one of their districts, you can still do things though. In particular, if your Congressional rep sits on the Telecomm and Internet Subcommittee or the House Energy and Commerce committee then contact them and tell them to vote it down in committee and why. If it's voted down in committee then it's unlikely to ever reach the floor and dies right there. Yay.

And you can also contact your Congressperson and tell them that if the bill should come to the house floor that you object to it (and why), and would like to see them vote against it and support their constituants instead of the MPAA. You know -- to do their job.

Now the list (from the parent post and the House Member list):
Charles Pickering -- Mississippi, 3rd
Edolphus Towns -- New York, 10th
John Shimkus -- Illinois, 19th
George Radnovich -- California, 19th
Mike Ferguson -- New Jersey, 7th
Marsha Blackburn -- Tennessee, 7th
Mary Bono -- California, 45th (good bloody luck)
Bart Gordon -- Tennessee, 6th
Joe Terry -- Don't know! There's a Lee Terry (Nebraska, 2nd) and Terry Everett (Alabama, 2nd) though.
Ed Whitfield -- Kentucky, 1st
Bobby Rush -- Illinois, 1st
Vito Fossella -- New York, 13th
Elliot L. Engel -- New York, 17th
John B. Shadegg -- Arizona, 3rd
Albert Russell Wynn -- Maryland, 4th
Michael F. Doyle -- Pennsylvania, 14th
Charles A. Gonzalez -- Texas, 20th
Charles F. Bass -- New Hampshire, 2nd
John Sullivan -- Oklahoma, 1st
Frank Pallone, Jr. -- New Jersey, 6th

Don't ask me which party. I've always found that a pain in the ass to figure out.

And thanks to the parent poster, since the link in the article wouldn't come up for me.

Below is a list of the Congresspeople and their districts. If you're not in one of their districts, you can still do things though. In particular, if your Congressional rep sits on the Telecomm and Internet Subcommittee or the House Energy and Commerce committee then contact them and tell them to vote it down in committee and why. If it's voted down in committee then it's unlikely to ever reach the floor and dies right there. Yay.

And you can also contact your Congressperson and tell them that if the bill should come to the house floor that you object to it (and why), and would like to see them vote against it and support their constituants instead of the MPAA. You know -- to do their job.

Now the list (from the parent post and the House Member list):
Charles Pickering -- Mississippi, 3rd
Edolphus Towns -- New York, 10th
John Shimkus -- Illinois, 19th
George Radnovich -- California, 19th
Mike Ferguson -- New Jersey, 7th
Marsha Blackburn -- Tennessee, 7th
Mary Bono -- California, 45th (good bloody luck)
Bart Gordon -- Tennessee, 6th
Joe Terry -- Don't know! There's a Lee Terry (Nebraska, 2nd) and Terry Everett (Alabama, 2nd) though.
Ed Whitfield -- Kentucky, 1st
Bobby Rush -- Illinois, 1st
Vito Fossella -- New York, 13th
Elliot L. Engel -- New York, 17th
John B. Shadegg -- Arizona, 3rd
Albert Russell Wynn -- Maryland, 4th
Michael F. Doyle -- Pennsylvania, 14th
Charles A. Gonzalez -- Texas, 20th
Charles F. Bass -- New Hampshire, 2nd
John Sullivan -- Oklahoma, 1st
Frank Pallone, Jr. -- New Jersey, 6th

Don't ask me which party. I've always found that a pain in the ass to figure out.

And thanks to the parent poster, since the link in the article wouldn't come up for me.

Below is a list of the Congresspeople and their districts. If you're not in one of their districts, you can still do things though. In particular, if your Congressional rep sits on the Telecomm and Internet Subcommittee or the House Energy and Commerce committee then contact them and tell them to vote it down in committee and why. If it's voted down in committee then it's unlikely to ever reach the floor and dies right there. Yay.

And you can also contact your Congressperson and tell them that if the bill should come to the house floor that you object to it (and why), and would like to see them vote against it and support their constituants instead of the MPAA. You know -- to do their job.

Now the list (from the parent post and the House Member list):
Charles Pickering -- Mississippi, 3rd
Edolphus Towns -- New York, 10th
John Shimkus -- Illinois, 19th
George Radnovich -- California, 19th
Mike Ferguson -- New Jersey, 7th
Marsha Blackburn -- Tennessee, 7th
Mary Bono -- California, 45th (good bloody luck)
Bart Gordon -- Tennessee, 6th
Joe Terry -- Don't know! There's a Lee Terry (Nebraska, 2nd) and Terry Everett (Alabama, 2nd) though.
Ed Whitfield -- Kentucky, 1st
Bobby Rush -- Illinois, 1st
Vito Fossella -- New York, 13th
Elliot L. Engel -- New York, 17th
John B. Shadegg -- Arizona, 3rd
Albert Russell Wynn -- Maryland, 4th
Michael F. Doyle -- Pennsylvania, 14th
Charles A. Gonzalez -- Texas, 20th
Charles F. Bass -- New Hampshire, 2nd
John Sullivan -- Oklahoma, 1st
Frank Pallone, Jr. -- New Jersey, 6th

Don't ask me which party. I've always found that a pain in the ass to figure out.

And thanks to the parent poster, since the link in the article wouldn't come up for me.

Here are the 20 signatories of the letter:

Shadegg R-AZ
Bono R-CA
Radanovich R-CA
Whitfield R-KY
Rush D-IL
Shimkus R-IL
Wynn D-MD
Pickering R-MS
Terry R-NE
Ferguson R-NJ
Pallone D-NJ
Bass R-NH
Engel D-NY
Fossella R-NY
Towns D-NY
Sullivan R-OK
Doyle D-PA
Blackburn R-TN
Gordon D-TN
Gonzalez D-TX

Also, Upton, R-MI, is also known to be strongly in favor of the flag. On the other hand, Upton is only a subcommittee chair, while Barton, R-TX, is the chair of the entire Energy and Commerce Committee. According to the EFF post linked in the OP, Barton may be willing to trade the broadcast flag for certain concessions from the ??AA (why Barton feels he has to bargain with the ??AA is beyond me - the entertainment industry is not the end-all, be-all of campaign finance).

Note that the people who signed the letter are lost causes. It's still important to deluge them with phone calls, but don't expect them to change their minds. The only true recourse is to vote against them next year. What's more important is the opinions of the other members of the Energy and Commerce Committee; they couldn't be convinced to sign the letter right away, and that must mean they're either opposed or on the fence.

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

John Shadegg, R-AZ, (202) 225-3361 | Mary Bono, R-CA, (202) 225-5330
George Radanovich, R-CA, (202) 225-4540 | John Shimkus, R-IL (202) 225-5271
Bobby Rush, D-IL, (202) 225-4372 | Ed Whitfield, R-KY, (202) 225-3115
Albert Wynn, D-MD, (202) 225-8699 | Charles Pickering, R-MS, (202) 225-5031
Lee Terry, R-NE, (202) 225-4155 | Charles Bass, R-NH, (202) 225-5206
Mike Ferguson, R-NJ, (202) 225-5361 | Frank Pallone, D-NJ, (202) 225-4671
Eliot Engel, D-NY, (202) 225-2464 | Vito Fossella, R-NY, (202) 225-3371
Edolphus Towns, D-NY, (202) 225-5936 | John Sullivan, R-OK, (202) 225-2211
Michael Doyle, D-PA, (202) 225-2135 | Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, (202) 225-2811
Bart Gordon, D-TN, (202) 225-4231 | Charles Gonzalez, D-TX, (202) 225-3236

Posted as AC to promote non-karma-whoring

I have a class soon so I can't put this together right now, but here are details for the first guy on the list so as to inspire other slashdotters to complete it:

Charles Pickering

WashingtonOffice:
229 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515
202.225.5031 Tel
202.225.5797 Fax

Rankin Office:
110-D Airport Rd
Pearl, MS 39208
601.932.2410 Tel
601.965.4598 Fax

Meridian Office:
823 22nd Ave
Meridian, MS 39301
601.693.6681 Tel
601.693.1801 Fax

Starkville Office:
1 Research Blvd Ste 206
Starkville, MS 39759
662.324.0007 Tel
662.324.0033 Fax

Natchez Office:
308 Franklin Street
Natchez, MS 39120
601. 442.2515 Tel
601.442.2311 Fax

Brookhaven Office:
230 Whitworth Street
Brookhaven, MS 39601
601.823.3400 Tel
601.823.5512 Fax

URL for form to email him:
http://www.house.gov/pickering/Form.htm

IANAL, but the point is that the Federal Governmnet is excluded by default.

States (as well as the Federal Government and foreign countries) are soverign entities. As such, they are not legal persons in the ordinary sense of the word (unlike corporations, for example), and are not by default subject to most laws. Thus the ordinary reading of the word "whoever" will include all private entities, but exclude the States, as well as the Federal Government.

The main point is that you can't usually sue a state in Federal Court without its consent (this is known as "sovereign immunity" and codified in the 11th Amendment). Congress can abrogate this immunity in specific cases with exlicit language in the laws, and in this case they chose to do so: by redefining "whoever" to include the States. For an even more explicit version of this see what they did for Copyrights, at 17 USC 511.

Actually, the US Federal Government is immune to claims of patent infringement. As specified in 35 USC Ch. 28 Sec. 271:

(h) As used in this section, the term "whoever" includes any State, any instrumentality of a State, and any officer or employee of a State or instrumentality of a State acting in his official capacity. Any State, and any such instrumentality, officer, or employee, shall be subject to the provisions of this title in the same manner and to the same extent as any nongovernmental entity.

The article title is misleading. Google has had lobbyists on tap in Washington for quite awhile. Google is is also a member of trade groups (e.g. - NetCoalition) which do a substantial amount of lobbying on behalf of the search/tech/ad/etc industries. They're opening an actual government relations office now - a big step up from hiring a few lobbyists who split their time with other clients.

Senate lobbying disclosures here.
House lobbying disclosures here.

http://www.house.gov/writerep/

If you are offended by this move by the RIAA, use that website to find your local representative and write to them about this. Include links to articles about the case and give them your honest opinion. Remember something as well, even though you may be one vote to them if many people write in, thats many votes to them which means they will act.

Well America, pulls the "There's only one China, BUT Taiwan is our friend and we will defend it in the event of an invasion, and we will make all the bilateral agreements we want with it, and recognize the validity of its passports, and deal with its government, and allow them all the embassies they want just as long as they don't call them 'Taiwanese embassies' but rather 'Taipei Economic and Cultural Offices', and oh yeah they better not bring their flags to the Olympics or even call themselves Taiwan," line. This also known as not stating the obvious, that Taiwan is and has been an independent nation in everything but name since Communist Revolution. The Chinese know it. The Taiwanese know it. The Americans know it. The entire world knows it. However if anyone mentions that an elephant is the room, then people are going to have to die.

Actually why do we have so many damn laws?

We didn't, at least, we used to not. At one time, our whole legal system was just a few pages long. But our government decided that it wasn't enough, and so we've ended up with the billions of pages of legal code we have today.

In a utopian world, I would agree with you. Unfortunately, there are just too many people who look for too many loopholes trying to screw other people over. And even that doesn't take into account the many gray areas. For example, I think that all copyrights are bad because they protect a small minority at the expense of putting artificial limits on the creativity and innovation of the vast majority. Some think they're good because it allows people to have financial incentive to be creative and innovative. Who's right? It's hard to say, but unfortunately, those aforementioned pages have sided with the latter folks.

You also neglect the fact that qualified judges are easily corrupted with that much power, and justified decisions will always be viewed as unfair by someone.

I agree that many laws are unneeded, and some are downright harmful to the public good, and like everyone else, I wish someone would come along and restore some sanity. But that doesn't imply that we need to almost completely do away with the legal system.

God had the right idea when he gave Moses ten laws, provide us the bible as a sort of guideline to acheiving those laws. Not kidding.

That's actually a good analogy, because even today, we still have Muslims and Christians, who worship the same God of Moses, trying to wipe each other—and other groups along with them—out because they just can't agree on which rules are okay to ignore out of convenience and which makes someone an infidel or heretic.

So we've ended up with large organized religions to break it all down for us into rules such as you can't use contraception, women have to wear burquas, you can't eat pork, etc.

According to your philosophy, we need to do away with religion altogether, and indeed some people believe that. I don't, but as with the legal system, I wish that someone could come along and restore some sanity.

Yes, but the MTA (much like pretty much every other transit system in the U.S.) receives money from the Federal Government, and that means that the transit system has to abide by Federal guidelines (environmental rules, overhead caps, subcontractors must be paid in 30 days, AA goals, etc).

For example, the 2nd Avenue subway and East Side Access projects are both part of the recent Federal transportation bill. I'm pretty sure that MTA also gets some funding for maintenance and R&D, but I can't find a link right now.

"Stem cells are not banned at all, billions of dollars have been spent on stem cell research in the US."

Oh, so Christofer Reeves didn't fight at all then. I should have been more clear, embryonic stem cell research.

"For the CDC and condoms, maybe you could actually look at what they say, from their website: Latex condoms, when used consistently and correctly, are highly effective in preventing transmission of HIV,"

http://democrats.reform.house.gov/features/politic s_and_science/example_condoms.htm

"I hear the word fuck all the time on tv, I see nudity all the time on tv. Not during the day on broadcast or public channels though, but I can still hear fuck and see tits if I want."

Yes, you can watch it all you want. But that's not freedom. Freedom is when people can say fuck, in the daytime, on public airwaves. You may not like it, but you should fight for.

"Kansas may be having a dicussion right now about Intelligent Design, but thats a discussion that the people of Kansas will vote on and decide, not some religious decree from a religious dictator (for the record I think ID is stupid and should not be taught), even if it was taught, thats only Kansas and parents do not have to send their children to school, they can teach them at home, or at a private school."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic le/2005/08/02/AR2005080201686.html

It's not only Kansas. Ye olde DUBBYA, has made som funny remarks. But otherwise we have the same opinion about Kansas I think.

"For you're Georgia claim, perhaps you should read the news(or at least use google): Judge: Evolution stickers unconstitutional, "

I am well aware of this ruling. Thank the FSM (http://www.venganza.org/ ) for that. My point was to show that these kind of decisions happen over and over again, and not all are overturned.

"and yes, half the country is against abortion (I am not) and for freeing the Iraqi people and death penalty (I am). "

Good, you are not as hypocritical as most. But stop using the term "freeing the Iraqi people". They are being sent to the same prisons and being tortured by the same people as during Saddams rule. Only difference is that nothing works in Iraq right now, since it's all been bombed.

I'm not sure when this all started (maybe all the social programs after the great depression?), but the entitlement attitude of todays society is going to be the downfall of this country.

ooh, I missed this. Anyway, though FDR did a lot that has been built on since, the ball was rolling before he inflated it. Some credit the start to the 14th Admendment and others put it elsewhere. When Lincoln started collecting an income tax of 3% or 5% people were upset, and they only went along with it because the Civil War had to be paid somehow, however compliance wasn't high.

Here's what Col. David Crockett when he was a US Representative from Tennessee said one day in the House of Representatives when a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer, Not Yours To Give. It's a good read, and I thank someone else on /. for posting it previously.

What is next, blaming P2P users for causing terrorism...

how the hell does research designed to limit the threat of life-changing illness or injury not fall under the umbrella of national security?

Can you show me where in the USA Constitution where it says health is the responsibility of the government?

A) having problems with it in terms of federalist principals

Seeing as how federalist principals stand for small government not large government it seems you're the one with problems of uderstanding federalism.

I'd like to see more of MY tax dollars go into medical research and less into military spending.

I'd prefer to see less of MY tax dollars going to both the military and to medical research.

if we had spent HALF of the money we have over the last century on military, and put it into medical research, we just might have been able to increase the life expectancy of our people by 5 years (aiding the illimination of cancers would do this, without question), increased the general health of the populace considerably, and recieve the added financial benefits of being the world leaders in the medical field

And if taxes weren't high to pay for all this by the feds then the private and commercial sectors would have more money to spend on research. And job creation.

So I seriously don't know how you can get off on a constitutional arguement against scientific research.

And how can you get off on saying the constitution allows tax spending for scientific research? Though I've looked, read, and reread other than where the constitution allows congress to grant copyrights and patents I see nowhere where it deligates this power. Maybe I missed it so can you point out where it says otherwise? Maybe it's in Article 1 Section 8 - Powers of Congress but I don't see it.

Consider that Benjemin Franklin was one of our founding fathers and one of the drafters of the consitution. He strongly supported the idea of government funded research.

And I wonder what Thomas Jefferson, James Jay, and James Madison who all loved small government would say to you? Though a bit later I know what Col. David Crockett would of said, "Not Yours To Give". Heck, I'd like to see NASA privatized as well. What many don't realize is that the USA Constitution is a limit on what government can do, the 10th Admendment even spells it out:

Amendment X - Powers of the States and People
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Byrd rule tests - Section 313(b)(1) of the Congressional Budget Act sets forth six tests for matters to be considered extraneous under the Byrd rule. The criteria apply to provisions that:

are outside the jurisdiction of the committee that submitted the title or provision for inclusion in the reconciliation measure;

A number of presidents have vetoed relief/aid bills in the past. I used to have a number of them collected in my quotations list, but I lost that when I reformatted my machine and the backup failed. I believe one was Teddy Roosevelt, concerning a draught in Texas - but that's purely from memory so I may be wrong. Personally I like Col. David Crockett's "Not Yours To Give" speech on the floor of the House.

Perhaps the part that says the judicial branch interprets the law???

Which part is that? As far as I can tell, the Constitution never says anything about the Judicial Branch doing any interpreting. It is completely implicit. In fact, I think the whole idea of needing to "interpret" something in this sense (that is, searching for implicit meanings within a text) is a sort of post-modern thing that the framers of the Constitution wouldn't have given as much thought as academics do now.