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Check out especially the WaveLAN. It's 1-2 Mb/s instead of 11, but it doesn't (necessarily) require a base station. These are the frontrunner right now for a wireless Linux-based kiosk system my company is developing. Enjoy!

PS-- obReality check for Apple Zealots: Wireless LAN is not new. Sorry. Their system looks cool, though, I will say :-)

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We all take pink lemonade for granted.

SUN sells workstations that will beat the G4 handily except for Altivec stuff, which probably is faster. But they also have the Enterprise 10000 can be equipped with up to 64 processors, which means it will leave a G4 in the dust.

SGI sells Onyx2 InfiniteReality2, which will beat probably anything else on heavy-duty visualisation stuff, and can be equipped with up to 128 processors.

HP makes the J-5000 workstation, which will also beat a G4 on most tasks, as well as big-ass servers with up to 128 processors.

IBM makes RS/6000 workstations and servers, which can scale up to 128 processors.

Compaq sells XP1000 workstations with a 667MHz Alpha 21264 processor, which will beat the G4 on anything that can't make very good use of Altivec, and there are places that sell dual 667MHz 21264 workstations. Compaq also has the AlphaServer GS line, which can take up to 14 21264's, probably beating the G4 on anything.

Furthermore, the Athlon probably beats the G4 on stuff that doesn't parallellise well, and an 8-way Xeon should be faster for most, if not all, things.

Unfortunately all the systems here, except the Athlon, are far, far more expensive than a G4. But you can get faster systems if you're willing to pay the price. Oh, and all of those run some Unix variant, as well as Windows NT for Alpha and Athlon/PIII.

Also, when it comes to the speed of the G4, it all depends on how useful Altivec is for your app. If it isn't useful, the G4 isn't that impressive. If it is, the G4 should be very good value for money, if Altivec is anywhere near as good as the hype claims it is.

SUN sells workstations that will beat the G4 handily except for Altivec stuff, which probably is faster. But they also have the Enterprise 10000 can be equipped with up to 64 processors, which means it will leave a G4 in the dust.

SGI sells Onyx2 InfiniteReality2, which will beat probably anything else on heavy-duty visualisation stuff, and can be equipped with up to 128 processors.

HP makes the J-5000 workstation, which will also beat a G4 on most tasks, as well as big-ass servers with up to 128 processors.

IBM makes RS/6000 workstations and servers, which can scale up to 128 processors.

Compaq sells XP1000 workstations with a 667MHz Alpha 21264 processor, which will beat the G4 on anything that can't make very good use of Altivec, and there are places that sell dual 667MHz 21264 workstations. Compaq also has the AlphaServer GS line, which can take up to 14 21264's, probably beating the G4 on anything.

Furthermore, the Athlon probably beats the G4 on stuff that doesn't parallellise well, and an 8-way Xeon should be faster for most, if not all, things.

Unfortunately all the systems here, except the Athlon, are far, far more expensive than a G4. But you can get faster systems if you're willing to pay the price. Oh, and all of those run some Unix variant, as well as Windows NT for Alpha and Athlon/PIII.

Also, when it comes to the speed of the G4, it all depends on how useful Altivec is for your app. If it isn't useful, the G4 isn't that impressive. If it is, the G4 should be very good value for money, if Altivec is anywhere near as good as the hype claims it is.

next thing you know, whichever computer manufacturing company was the first to think up the infamous beige box/tower will sue all the other companies for the same thing.

or, even better, apple will sue HP for selling their towers with the translucent plastic on the front found here. I've seen 'em closer up in stores, of course (and as I know that others have as well..)

anyway, my take is, "spare us the agony!" It's so childish of apple to be doing this. if somebody wanted an apple that bad, they'd go out and buy themselves one. sheesh!

I don't think it is out of beta. I mean they release NT Service Pack 4 which was a Service Pack 5 beta.... also layer with IE to make the box "Y2K" according to their standards and the whole thing craps the bed. NT4 is not the most amazing thing when it comes to hardware. Hell, server comes with what a processor and a NIC and the thing hums. Now lets add NT to a laptop and the fireworks kick in. Hell, even HP doesn't even support SP4 on the damn omnibooks! See ya.

I have found a lengthy discussion about their license requirements. So do I need to buy one? How much does it cost. - Any links?

See it at the LinuxWorld expo later this month, or look at http://www.hp.com/go/openmail

... one of the researchers has a homepage with some seriously detailed background information on the technology involved. Drill down to the research index. An interview with one of the HP scientists is here. Anybody else notice all these people are from Rice?

For those interested, they can have a look at my web pages :

http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/jt/Linux/Wireless. html

Jean

On this page: http://www.hp.co m/visualize/products/plclass/tech_specs/index.html it says that these machines have
an "HP Multifunction Ergonomic Keyboard with programmable application shortcuts".

Now I have a keyboard just like that. (It came with an hp brio.) It's really neat, it has ten extra buttons plus volume mute/inc/dec (that's three more), but I haven't gotten them to do anything besides giving error messages to the log.

Does anyone know where I can get the program they use to support them? Does it handle that cute little fourth LED that's supposed to indicate new mail?
Please let me know!

You should take a serious look at HP storage, they have products and solutions equal to if not better than EMC for a nicer price.

Q. How much will HP e-speak cost?

A. HP e-speak will be distributed at little or no cost to developers via the Internet. Once released by HP, HP e-speak core software will be freely downloadable from a website. The download will include documentation, binary core code, and licensed source code.

Q. How much will HP e-speak cost?

A. HP e-speak will be distributed at little or no cost to developers via the Internet. Once released by HP, HP e-speak core software will be freely downloadable from a website. The download will include documentation, binary core code, and licensed source code.

The HP Jornada would be great if it could run Linux. Imagine getting 10 hours of battery life...

If you're interested, the latest rev of the standard is described in this paper.

I've followed the standard, and I think that it will do very well. Even on the Web.
The only problem I see is with licensing, but since HP developed the algorithm and they are
giving away licenses for the JPEG-LS algorithm (which they helped develop), I can't see this as
a problem.

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Christian Peel
chris.peel@ieee.org

If you're interested, the latest rev of the standard is described in this paper.

I've followed the standard, and I think that it will do very well. Even on the Web.
The only problem I see is with licensing, but since HP developed the algorithm and they are
giving away licenses for the JPEG-LS algorithm (which they helped develop), I can't see this as
a problem.

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Christian Peel
chris.peel@ieee.org

I have powerful, highly available NT servers too, altho' not handling quite that much load. when i said high transaction loads, I meant high, of the scale of a country's cheque clearing for example.

I've been using Sphinx since beta 1, and I like it a lot. What I like most about NT is it gives me a complete platform, SQL/MSMQ/MTS/IIS all sitting nicely together.

57 servers that prove you wrong. Individually, these servers are not as high powered as a 14 processor Enterprise 6000 running Oracle

57 servers cheaper than an E6000? hmm, i think you need to look at these.

Ben Fennema seems to be most active developer at the moment. The current UDF driver only supports reading, but work is beginning on writing. TryLinux has a project page for UDF, which includes links to the specs.

There is also a mailing list (for developers, pretty low-volume) here. Send 'subscribe linux_udf' in the body of the message.

Dear, um, anonymous coward with a large Kayak installation, could you please contact me?

Look at http://www.hp.com/netserver/products/lpr/ and click on the penguin!