Domain: humanbrainproject.eu
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Comments · 5
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Re:What exactly is Transhumanism ?
Transhumanism is currently a hodgepodge of religious nonsense, visionary science fiction, and practical self-improvement. I confess I am a bit swept up in the romantic ideal of it. I love the idea of human improveability in the form of intellectual and technological advancement, extended lifespans, higher quality of life, and even post-scarcity economies.
The religious nonsense part of it is best embodied in Ray Kurzweil's singularity (also known as the nerd rapture), the idea that humanity will soon upload our minds to computers and live forever. I can't imagine us not having this technology before the end of the century--especially with efforts like the UK's Human Brain Project and America's BRAIN Initiative AND a proof of concept with researchers mapping a worm's brain into a legobot and having it "come alive". HOWEVER: I also don't pin any personal hopes for immortality on this research because we are making copies of our minds, so even if my mind joins the singularity, I will still die--probably bitterly jealous of my immortal self having all that virtual sex in technoheaven.
For me, the science fiction of transhumanism is all about vision and inspiration, and not about dreams of salvation and immortality like Kurzweil promotes. The science fiction part of it is most accessible through Star Trek, but in reality our transhumanist future will probably be more like the wild visions of Charles Stross' Accelerando, or my personal favorite the Quantum Thief Trilogy by Hannu Rajaniemi. These books drop you into settings filled with Matrioshka brains (Dyson Spheres made of computronium), and force the reader to confront all the uncomfortable otherness that comes with virtual life.
Another great science fiction resource is the Creative Commons Eclipse Phase RPG, which takes place in a future where humanity has colonized solar system and extended out into the Oort Cloud. Each planet and environment requiring different engineering and culture adaptations to survive. You can download all the books in PDF format. These books are a fantastic jumping-point for the imagining what a post-human future might look like.
This all said, I am not a fan of Sirius' encyclopedia. I was looking for practical, real-world things I can do right now to enhance my life through science and technology. Instead, I got very thin treatments of many subjects, overstatements of medical advances, important subjects left out (like the 19th Century Russian Cosmism movement (precursor to transhumanism)), and a general lack of leads to new areas to research. I get way more information from Wikipedia-surfing than I got from this book. I do appreciate his efforts though. If he gets more people into the idea of transhumanism, then more people will collaborate on it, we'll have more hacks for better living, and more people thinking about the future and human progress.
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A little detail
They forgot to mention who are they competing against: http://www.humanbrainproject.eu/introduction.html
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Neurology, physiology, computing
Hello,
the project, described here is not to build a simulation of a human brain capable of reasoning and thought, certainly not at first.
It is aimed at better understanding the way the real human brain works, from the neurological and physiological point of view. It is anticipated that to understand this some level of simulation will be needed, indeed. However current computers are incapable of dealing with the complexity of the complete human brain, even if we knew its structure.
In other words it sounds like a perfectly sensible basic science project. It starts relatively small, with about 115 million Euros between the European Research Council and matching member countries funds. It may build up to about 1.5 billions if specific milestones are met on the way. It will be subjected to reviews and evaluations and audits on the way.
It doesn't sound at all like an airy fairy project with no hope of succeeding, quite the contrary.
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Re:Why?
This has never been about intelligence "automagically" arising from anything. It is about having enough computing power so that neuroscientists would be able to run full-scale brain simulations using their detailed models. The hardware we have today is nowhere near that level. The Human Brain Project is one such neuroscience project and if you look at their proposal you will see that having the necessary hardware IS a big problem, which is why a very large amount of their budget is about building specialized hardware that can run the simulations at an acceptable speed.
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Re:BRAAIINNNNNNNS
The EU's Human Brain Project has an estimate of 1000 times the current fastest supercomputer (probably written about a year ago), so maybe around an exaflop.
"Today, simulating a single neuron requires the full power of a laptop computer. But the brain has billions of neurons and simulating all them simultaneously is a huge challenge. To get round this problem, the project will develop novel techniques of multi-level simulation in which only groups of neurons that are highly active are simulated in detail. But even in this way, simulating the complete human brain will require a computer a thousand times more powerful than the most powerful machine available today." (link)
That's 10 doublings, so if Moore's Law holds up this level of capability should be roughly 20 years away. I think it's interesting to note that this also suggests the feature size will halve 5 times to right around 1 nm: atomic scale. My rough understanding is that no matter what you may have heard from semiconductor physicists we are currently pretty clueless as to what, if anything, is going to drive the progress of Moore's Law beyond about 10 nm.