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  1. Hymn 0.6.2 Officially Released by iansquared · · Score: 1 · on iTunes 4.6, DRM, and Hymn

    Even more trivial

  2. Place your bets... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful · on Apple Rolls Out AirPort Express, AirTunes
    Anyone care to speculate whether or not the upcoming iTunes 4.6 mentioned in the article (and at the bottom of the of the Airtunes blurb) will break hymn (nee PlayFair), like they did with the last update?

    -HJ

  3. Re:.ogg iTunes, .wav etc by xiando · · Score: 0 · on Apple Music Store Coming to Europe & iTunes in China

    Thank you for making me aware of hymn, I had no idea such a thing existed (didn't help me much, though). My one and only experience with iTunes happened a long time ago and I remember I eventually gave up playing the songs all together. I now googled real quick and I'm still puzzled: What Linux media player can play iTunes songs? How, oh how, do I use them?

  4. Great if you hate musicians. by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful · on Apple Music Store Coming to Europe & iTunes in China

    If you like stiffing artists that's your business. I'll stick with a system where at least a little money get's back to the artists I like.

    Apart from the ability to select music quality, I don't really see where allofmp3.com is any different than downloading a song from P2P.

    As for iTunes "Encumberment" - perhaps you missed out on Hymn?

  5. Re:Sony's format sucks... by ncc74656 · · Score: 2, Informative · on McDonald's and Sony Offer Music Downloads
    I admit that iTunes is only offering DRM Protected AAC, which is almost as bad, but at least AAC has a pretty high quality.

    You forgot to mention that the DRM that is there is also relatively simple to remove.

  6. Re:They just don't get it.... by calebb · · Score: 1 · on Recording Industry Hopes To Hinder CD Burning

    You've heard of PlayFair, right? (Recently renamed Hymn)

  7. Interesting quote by Quixote · · Score: 2, Insightful · on Recording Industry Hopes To Hinder CD Burning
    From the article (yeah, I read it....):
    "What labels have told us is that their agreements (with the download services) are relatively short term, a year or under, and so they believe that they have the capability to require (the burning tools to be added) next time around," Macrovision Chief Executive Officer Bill Krepick said.

    To all those who were bitching about PlayFair, keep this in mind: if you do not strip away the DRM from the music that you bought for your use, some day the music studios will just yank the ability to play your tunes anywhere. This is why projects like PlayFair are so important: they let you control how you use your own media. All this talk about PlayFair leading to piracy is pure bullshit.

  8. Out of India, back in the US by SuperKendall · · Score: 1 · on Japanese Digital TV Viewers Complain About DRM Restrictions

    You are not keeping up with the times. The India site was shut down some time back, and new code was added to make it more defensible in court. Now it's being hosted in the US again. Here's a snippet:

    The project is renamed Hymn, according to the project maintainer Anand Babu. The software is on two sites being hosted by US hosting companies. Previously the project started at SourceForge.net in the US. After Apple threatened legal action through the Digital Millennium Copyright Act the project was moved to a host in India. The new US based hosts are well aware of the DMCA and the Digital Rights Management (DRM) issues and are prepared to defend the software against Apple.

    Along with the Hymm makers, I consider the project to be perfectly legal to use. Note this site is not shut down yet, and has been up for some time.

    Granted I came off angry at Apple in the previous post but I don't think Apple has a nefarious conditioning scheme in mind. They need content to sell iPods and their DRM scheme was the least the industry would tolerate. For now. Don't be surprised if the RIAA wants to go back to Apple at some point and alter the deal.

    As I have said before I consider this unlikley because of all the online music sources (which everyone knows are the future of music), Apple is making far and away the most money for them. Apple at this point has a lot of leverage and few exects are going to be willing to turn the screw on a functioning money spigot. If other services started earning a lot more money that might change. But that would mean people would embrace the DRM which in the end they never do.

    FairPlay is a resonable compromise because for all intents and purposes, it remains invisible. For the only need I have that it bothered my (sharing music at work) I have a viable workaround. So by buying music from iTunes I am saying "if you have unrestricted music I will still buy from you if costs are resonable".

  9. Re:It just works? by Bifurcati · · Score: 1 · on How To Play Your iTunes Music On Other Systems
    Ooookay, take it easy. No, I have no problem understanding the difference between Windows and iTunes. Windows (and OSX) are DIFFERENT platforms, on which two DIFFERENT versions of iTunes run (albeit ports of each other). I also, however, point your attention to the manual (have you looked at it?). I haven't looked at the code, but I'm trusting that the manual is correct to some extent.

    According to it, the system key can only be obtained (so far) for Windows machines, and is then used to decrypt the user keys which can then be used on the songs. On the iPod, these user keys are (according to the manual, section A.1.2!) stored decrypted. This is what I was referring to in my message.

    I was merely commenting that decoding the system key has only been done on Windows, and wondering why that was. scorpioX suggested an explanation in his interesting reply.

  10. more info by xandroid · · Score: 5, Informative · on FairPlay v2 Reversed, Playfair Back Online

    According to MacWorld...

    • new version, and they're calling it a complete re-write (now fully GPL compliant, too)
    • new web host (in the US, surprisingly, and ballsy too: Babu (creator) says "This [host] is well aware of the DMCA and DRM issues and is very much willing to defend us in case Apple threatens to bring down the site")
    • now preserves the iTMS header files, including the user's Apple ID ("This proves that our purpose is for fair use and not for piracy and should help us in our legal battles")
    • "hymn" stands for "hear your music anywhere"
    • and the new site's not even slashdotted yet!



    (Not really karma whoring, just adding the info that was in my submission... bah.)

  11. more info by xandroid · · Score: 5, Informative · on FairPlay v2 Reversed, Playfair Back Online

    According to MacWorld...

    • new version, and they're calling it a complete re-write (now fully GPL compliant, too)
    • new web host (in the US, surprisingly, and ballsy too: Babu (creator) says "This [host] is well aware of the DMCA and DRM issues and is very much willing to defend us in case Apple threatens to bring down the site")
    • now preserves the iTMS header files, including the user's Apple ID ("This proves that our purpose is for fair use and not for piracy and should help us in our legal battles")
    • "hymn" stands for "hear your music anywhere"
    • and the new site's not even slashdotted yet!



    (Not really karma whoring, just adding the info that was in my submission... bah.)