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Re:Bastards!
I don't know about CyberPaint, but there was actually an MS-DOS PC port of deluxe paint itself (roughly akin to amiga deluxe paint ii). It's not terrible or anything, though obviously dated, even compared to later amiga dpaint releases or even later amiga cloanto "personal paint" (ppaint).
TVPaint is very expensive, but still around in modern form, and also started out on the Amiga and was ported to the PC.
Idruna photogenics also started out as an amiga package - while it's marketed at image editing/film postprocessing, it inherits an unusual level of "original composition"* natural-media type tools.
* The core difference between amiga art/animation packages and most photoshop-like PC/Mac art packages is really that *most* Amiga art packages were oriented squarely at bitmapped image/animation original composition rather than photo manipulation. Both Photoshop and GIMP are cheerfully aimed at existing image manipulation (retouching/"airbrushing") first and foremost (as you can tell from the names, and they work well enough for that). In a lot of ways, modern vector art packages are closer "spiritual" successors of amiga bitmap (or occasionally vector towards the "end") art packages than modern bitmap art packages.
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Photogenics
What something on Linux that is better than GIMP & Photoshop? Photogenics is the ticket!
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Re:Right tool for the right job
I use Gimp to do what most people do with Photoshop: General Image Manipulations.
I am not a Photographer or a full-time Graphics Designer (although I love hand-drawing and designing Logos)
What I don't like about Photoshop is not the software itself but the OS : modal windows.
Gimp (and most apps in Linux) - you have that freedom of floating dialog boxes instead of Modal-windows; so you can get under it.
The general averseness with Gimp is twofold:
1. People are way too accustomed to Photoshop and unlearning stuff is short of painful.
2. Gimp on Windows/Cygwin sucks sucks badly. And sadly that is Windows-users gain their first impressions of the software.
In Gimp if you are stuck - right click (navigate the menu from thereon to do almost anything).
Gimp is definitely better what it used to be (I abhored the 1.x versions), and not that sub-standard in comparison to Photoshop.
I don't deny however that Photoshop itself is an extremely professional state-of-the-art software and that in many fronts it still beats Gimp (as I keep hearing: CMYK / Pantone profiles).
But there is much more to Gimp than people are vaguely aware.
For me its refreshing and exciting the whole evolutionary (if not revolutionary) process. Sure many Linux-ported applications are still sub-par in contrast to Windows-only:
Photogenics, MainActor, QCad / LinuxCad
Some got the timing wrong and had to pull-out as Linux wasn't popular then: NetObjects Fusion for Linux and MusicMatch Jukebox.
Others were bullied by the Microsoft lobby: most notably games.
While others still support a Linux version to this date: Maya Complete and Mathematica (way too expensive I rather settle for the free Blender, Octave and Pov-Ray)
Which leads us to the Open Source:
The were have a vast library of resources just to cater for the Designer.
But sadly we got tired and old in learning new stuff.
I cannot comment on the world of Mac. Which should be more user-oriented than developer-oriented; a means to an end as you stated.
While Microsoft itself - is a damn pain in the arse. People are stucked with it for lock-in reasons including proprietory formats - that is how they bred so many software houses writing apps just for it.
Rebooting, desinfecting - recovering corrupted documents is a hassle any business and I could do without. And so .. I resist.
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Re:Difficult to use or?
But there are non-MDI image manipulation programs with better interfaces than the GIMP. Try photogenics (payware, 30-day linux trial download) and compare it to the gimp. Photogenics is MUCH easier for beginner and experienced user alike (it's descended from Amiga art packages of yore) than the GIMP, yet its UI is streamlined and, dare I say it, actually intuitive, as far as a UI can be. Discoverability is maximised, and nothing is more than 3 clicks away.
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Re:Difficult to use or?
Photogenics is at idruna.
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Re:eh, no thanks.
There are certain aspects of Palm OS software that could definitely use some work... I've never seen a decent photo editor for the Palm OS...
The Palm OS is also lacking in several neat features. PocketPC *dominates* on the multimedia front... and last I checked, the only 2 (3?) Palm OS SSH clients didn't support Hi-res, so they were a bitch to read... I would love something as good as sshCE on a Palm.
And PocketPC games can't be beat
;-)Oh! And don't forget ports of FTPD, Perl, Apache, XFree86, emacs and Vim
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Re:How to take 16 bit floating point pictures
A film scanner like the ones used at VFX houses can produce material with up to 14 bits per channel of color resolution. So can Panoscan's MK1 HDR camera. For reasons outlined in another thread, there are advantages to using FP numbers rather than integers to represent these values.
The CCDs used in these devices are pretty expensive and aren't available in pro-sumer or consumer devices. For now.
Apps like Idruna's Photogenics, Paul Debevec's HDRShop, and Greg Ward's Photophile can produce HDR FP images from scans of photos of the same scene using different exposures. This works with the cheap color scanner that you bought at Fry's or Best Buy.
As for synthetic images, Renderman, Mental Ray use 32-bit FP internally. They can already produce 32-bit TIFF images. We're working on making the OpenEXR display drivers for these apps available with the rest of the OpenEXR software distribution.
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Re:Is there a tool to paint in this format?
We submitted an OpenEXR plugin to the Film Gimp team, and I understand it'll show up in the next release.
Also, Idruna Software is working on OpenEXR support for their Photogenics package. It already supports creation of and painting on HDR formats. -
Re:Need AOL/GNU/Linux...
The Gimp works fine for the simple stuff they do. On the high end, I liked Photogenics from Idruna. At $699, it's a bit expensive but if you need it, it's worth it.