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Benchmarks! (well, some)
Lookie here!
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Re:Is there an ATX demo board anywhere?
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Re:It's all about design.The six or seven fans necessary because AMD's design is substandard
Nonsense. AMD's design is just fine. The Athlon is not particularly bad compared to Intel CPUs, given what it does. (And Intel made the Pentium 4 look better than the Athlon basically by lying.)
And the new Palomino-core Athlons dissipate 20% less heat, thanks to a bit of clever engineering; read more here.
If you really think the Athlon is substandard, feel free to send your Athlons to me.
steveha
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P4 thermal problems (was:The p4 frankly sucks)
Here's the comment from a Inquest white paper:
: Intel's Thermal Design Guide has revealed that the absolute maximum power dissipation of the 1.5GHz P4 is actually 72.9 watts. This is 33% higher than the published system design specification, and essentially identical to the 1.33 GHz Athlon. If power dissipation is sustained at a level higher than 54.7 watts thermal overload can occur. In order to deal with this, a mechanism called thermal throttling is used. If performance critical applications drive the CPU above a predetermined temperature, the CPU is halted with a 50% duty cycle (alternating 2 microseconds on; 2 microseconds off) until it cools down. This effectively turns your 1.5GHz processor into a 750MHz processor - just at the moment you demand peak performance. On the other hand, you will probably still be able to check your email at 1.5GHz. This scheme is described on page 23 of Intel's P4 Thermal Design Guide.
... Intel's motto... "1.7GHz. Its there. Unless you need it."It's still on the ArsTechnica home page.
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This was discussed a few days agoIn this slashdot article about a Pentium IV study
Read those before you reply about the PIV power situation (hint: if you cool it, it won't cut itself down to half speed). But it wasn't nice that Intel forget to mention the thermal diode is what allows that theoretical lower-than-Athalon power consumption; you won't see that benefit if you massively cool it.
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- DDR vs. Dual Channel RDRAM at InQuest.
- Very early comparison article (also at InQuest): DDR vs. Rambus A Hands-on Performance Comparison
- arstechnica's RAM guides: part one, and part two.
- Couple links from Tom's: Performance Impact of Rambus and the famous Dissecting Rambus
- And a pretty good MRAM PDF
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- DDR vs. Dual Channel RDRAM at InQuest.
- Very early comparison article (also at InQuest): DDR vs. Rambus A Hands-on Performance Comparison
- arstechnica's RAM guides: part one, and part two.
- Couple links from Tom's: Performance Impact of Rambus and the famous Dissecting Rambus
- And a pretty good MRAM PDF
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Re:Just a thought...
The next reduction in size will be to
.13 micron. Intel is planning to make this transition on the P-III and P-4 chips in about Q3 of 2001. Slashdot posted this about the coming chips and micron size reductions. CNET has a story which is what the slashdot story is about. The CNET story though comes from this story of InQuest Market Research. Hope you like chip road maps as much as I do :) -
Dual Channel Rambus vs DDR
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Dual Channel Rambus vs DDR
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Original articleI submitted this report about DDR vs RAMBUS months ago to
/. and it was rejected. Now that everyone else has picked up on it it suddenly becomes news. InQuest has other articles about Rambus as well. In addition to /. I also submitted the article to Tom's hardware, where he later used it as a reference for his current article.I often wonder about why some articles are accepted and others are rejected on
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Original articleI submitted this report about DDR vs RAMBUS months ago to
/. and it was rejected. Now that everyone else has picked up on it it suddenly becomes news. InQuest has other articles about Rambus as well. In addition to /. I also submitted the article to Tom's hardware, where he later used it as a reference for his current article.I often wonder about why some articles are accepted and others are rejected on
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Original articleI submitted this report about DDR vs RAMBUS months ago to
/. and it was rejected. Now that everyone else has picked up on it it suddenly becomes news. InQuest has other articles about Rambus as well. In addition to /. I also submitted the article to Tom's hardware, where he later used it as a reference for his current article.I often wonder about why some articles are accepted and others are rejected on
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Re:Crappy i820... -- solution on the way...
Micron is coming out with a Pentium III compatible chipset that supports DDR SDRAM. I submitted an article to Slashdot at http://www.inqst.com/ddrvrmbs.htm
which shows DDR smoking RAMBUS. I wouldn't be surprised if Micron also came out with a chipset for the Athlon, which can really take advantage of the higher memory speeds.
I suspect VIA also is coming out with a DDR compatible chipset. -
Re:Current Technology is Good Enough
Don't uncritically accept the story that Rambus is a superior technology. Dell (a devout Rambus house) did some very interesting benchmarking, and although Intel and Rambus had the results censored from the IDF procedings you can see a copy at InQuest Market Research
Bottom line: Rambus appears to be substantially (like 15-40%) slower than PC100 SDRAM for typical applications. Oops. -
Re:AMD
- Rambus isn't an Intel technology, although they are pushing it.
- AMD is _not_ using Rambus for the K7. All of the announced K7 north-bridge chips (most notably Via's) are strictly DDR SDRAM designs.
- for fun reading on the subject of Rambus performance compared to old, slow, PC100 SDRAM check out the Dell benchmarks.
- Rambus isn't an Intel technology, although they are pushing it.
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More info, critique of RambusAnyone looking for other technical critiques might try:
Analysis from InQuest, including Dell Office+Rambus benchmarks
A performance comparison of contemporary DRAM architectures. Vinodh Cuppu, Bruce Jacob, Brian Davis, and Trevor Mudge. Proc. 26th International Symposium on Computer Architecture
(ISCA-26), pp. 222-233. Atlanta GA, May 1999.
Or here to pick up Intel documentation on it here and here.
--LP