Domain: itjobswatch.co.uk
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GTK vs Qt Job Offer Trends
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GTK vs Qt Job Offer Trends
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Re:Not a ranking of the best or the most
The better links t check your language is in demand is the job-search ones like IT Jobs Watch but I've noticed that can show a fair bit of volatility.
Currently jQuery and PHP are growing in popularity.
As for C++, Microsoft have discovered that their
.NET languages are quite resource hungry, and that the cloud and mobile require more efficient resource use, hence their "C++ Renaissance" push.Not that
.NET will disappear, just that it'll become more of the language that filled the niche VB left vacant as their systems programming becomes more c++ oriented. Can't blame everyone from fleeing Java, even if oracle doesn't screw it up, it's still fast becoming a legacy language (ie the new Cobol :) ) -
Re:Interesting.
These are the problems with TIOBEs methodology, and a better measure of popularity is to take a global sample of job listings in various cities across the world to see what companies are actually recruiting for - that gives us a more realistic idea of what's really, actually being used IMO.
I can't say globally, but the UK has the IT Jobs Watch which is based on job adverts. FYI, top skill is for "developer", 2nd for "finance", 3rd for "SQL".
You can filter by programming languages.
It also shows average salaries, which I think is far more important than popularity. C# for example is around £40k, Java at £47k. For a contractor, C++ may have fallen in popularity but pays £100 a day more than C# contractors.
For languages, the biggest jumpers are Scala (on £55k) and Ruby (on £47.5k).
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Re:Interesting.
These are the problems with TIOBEs methodology, and a better measure of popularity is to take a global sample of job listings in various cities across the world to see what companies are actually recruiting for - that gives us a more realistic idea of what's really, actually being used IMO.
I can't say globally, but the UK has the IT Jobs Watch which is based on job adverts. FYI, top skill is for "developer", 2nd for "finance", 3rd for "SQL".
You can filter by programming languages.
It also shows average salaries, which I think is far more important than popularity. C# for example is around £40k, Java at £47k. For a contractor, C++ may have fallen in popularity but pays £100 a day more than C# contractors.
For languages, the biggest jumpers are Scala (on £55k) and Ruby (on £47.5k).
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Re:Executive's job search could be construed harmf
The problem with that argument is that he isn't being paid 'vital for the company' money. According to http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/, that salary is about average for "Architect" / "Senior Developer" positions. The key being average. If this guy is so vital to the company, either in an executive or technical capacity, they need to be paying a _lot_ more. For example, the top 10% of "[Java] Architect" makes over £95,000/yr.
So I have a very hard time believing that he was some vital member of the company if his wage was average for a non-vital position. Hell, if he was simply good at his job the company isn't paying enough (probably; I don't know what the duties of that position are) to even dissuade the occasional unsolicited head hunter. (However, I would say that I don't suspect that is the case... You don't fire someone over a triviality like this unless they aren't quite replaceable, even to the point where it's more like an excuse for finally kicking them out.)
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Re:Let me get this straight
Just one example of where the documents is wrong: SQL Server accepts stored procedures written in C#.
More importantly, what do you have to say about this: http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/default.aspx?page=1&sortby=6&orderby=0&q=&id=900&lid=2618 -
Re:I think they made a small mistake.
From the same source as the article it adds 7-8% which is down from a few years ago with a high of 10%
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Re:job market
Not that much, but this is a UK-specific survey. Still, seems there's a steady progress upwards.
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Re:Just a thought....
Unfortunately, Java is a declining trend. To keep your skills 'current' you're going to have to get down on your knees and start sucking on Microsoft's bloated development tools.
*ahem* sorry about that.
Java is declining now (from 35% of all UK IT Jobs in 2004 to 25% now). I can't help think its due to C# and possibly the rise of scripting languages like Ruby/Python and PHP. I can't be sure though, I think Linux and OSS development is a rising trend (Evand Data says in 2006 74% of all devs targetted Windows, in 2007 it was 65% - hence MS getting all generous with Zend and the Apache foundation, if you are going to do OSS dev, they want you to do it on Windows).
Scripting languages are going places - from next to nothing in 2004, to over 10% today. That's impressive, add javascript (at 15%) to that and knowing a new script language won't hurt.
Incidentally, average C# salary = £41k, average python salary £45k, ruby £44k.
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Re:C#++?
and so is salary...
(£46k average for c++, 41 for c#, 39 for ".net", 37 for ".net developer". Check out Linux adoption too!)
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Re:It's remarkable that people still do this
Commercial firms tend to use older technologies; in open source, the situation is different. In average Linux distribution for example, there is probably more Python code than Perl code. Also, these two links may be helpful:
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/perl.do
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/python.do -
Re:It's remarkable that people still do this
Commercial firms tend to use older technologies; in open source, the situation is different. In average Linux distribution for example, there is probably more Python code than Perl code. Also, these two links may be helpful:
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/perl.do
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/python.do -
A good start
If you're looking for some insight into career pathways then goto http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/. You will find tonnes of stats on how the various technologies are performing within teh industry. I'm a second year degree student and I find this site helpful for directions on what to concentrate on etc... Hope this helps.
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If you're in the UK you might want to look at...
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/ It gives similar information. Of course anything like this should be taken with a large grain of salt.
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Re:Worthless
Take this as constructive advice from someone who works in the field: what you don't know could fill a library (that's a building with books in it).
You could try educating yourself first about Filenet before posting, but I forget; this is Slashdot. Filenet has a buttload of products; they also provide lots of consulting to go along with those products. BTW, consulting is IBM's bread and butter, if you didn't know. Filenet made $422 million bucks last year. At that level of income, IBM will make its money back in about 4 years.
Sure, I'm a Filenet admin, so I'm biased. But I get paid pretty damn well for it.
And it runs on UNIX. So there. -
Re:lingo... overload
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Re:UK Jobs
Not forgetting IT Jobs Watch