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"It is not a matter of laziness. A gym membership is expensive,"

He's not serious about losing weight, take it from someone who used to say things like the OP. I had to find inspiration in this guy to finally get it:

http://www.johnstonefitness.com/

I just needed a mentor and inspiration that it can be done. i.e. learning from those who've successfully transformed themselves.

You don't have to do it the way I've done it. If you're serious about losing weight/staying fit check out this site for motivation and support

http://www.johnstonefitness.com/

"Well, be careful there. I lost weight recently, and kept it off, and feel much better for it, but I didn't follow conventional wisdom, ie. the food pyramid + low fat + exercise."

Yes but few people are willing to radically change their diets. Diets matter no doubt about it, but exercise (even small to moderate amounts) is the key to overall better health (and I doubt you would dispute that)

You can eat healthy food + moderate amount of "bad food" once you lose the weight, most people gained weight in their youth and live with being overweight for a long period of time.

You can take it all off at once quickly with commitment over a period of a few months to a year (depending on how overweight one was) and then just do moderate maintenance (a few hours a week of walking/weights or whatever) and plus walking is healthy for anyone, bloodflow to the brain is increased and I do some of my best thinking walking for a few hours listening to songs and sometimes just shutting off songs and getting lost in deep thought.

The big thing is changing your habit, at first when you start to exercise it seems like a chore, but your body will physically adjust to your new routine once you've gone past roughly 2 weeks straight of doing it daily.

And once you see results and your entire life improves because of it (people treat you better all of a sudden, and you start really getting noticed) it keeps you from slipping.

The big thing is support hence I recommend to people to check out http://www.johnstonefitness.com/

For advice on the forums and whatnot, one can do it the diet way but most people are not willing to give up certain foods regardless they want to "live", since we are all dead in the end anyway, even the person who ate perfectly is going to die from contingency of physics and biology of aging whether that is damage or pre-programmed aging and cell death.

EVEN on the nonsense reality TV shows contestants do work hard for the week (and are constantly monitored so cheating is unlikely) and STILL manage to sometimes put on weight. You can cry BS until you go blue but you've clearly never had major weight issues. You don't seem to understand that the body can use the few calories it gets a day first, and that some of the components of that energy burning come from water and air. It's not magic and these people don't violate conservation of energy. It's just that food - fat and carbs - is ONE component in the way the human body works. That's an evolutionary development. It takes a LONG time to starve. Your body doesn't simply give out in a day because you're not fed.

REALITY TV is NOT REAL, in the real world you can't get past the laws of physica and biology, your body requires energy to move if you don't exert youself you will not lose weight, period. It's quite obvious you have serious self-esteem issues and psychological problems

Benching weights increases muscle mass which will actually raise your BMI. You need a cardiovascular workout. To burn energy you need something that increases your breathing and makes you sweat and burn calories quickly. Suggesting benching weights as a way to lose weight is insane.

I've done periods of just FREE weights over the months and benching by itself and *it works*, there are many ways to use free weights and you really REALLY look stupid, you're talking to someone who is the evidence. Everything I suggested to you I have done and tested myself. If you're going to try to convince all of slashdot that somehow magically your body does not work like the rest of ours through some painful intellectual gymnastics and bullshit writing, the people who are regular exercisers and were once overweight know full well you are full of shit.

Your posting just for the sake of posting based on your own heresay or what you read out of misinformed article or are taking me out of context and it is not a very wise thing to be doing. You're are making wild backwards rationalizations based on emotion, and attempting to bullshit your way through to look like you know what you're talking about, I've lived it.

Benching weights increases muscle mass which will actually raise your BMI. You need a cardiovascular workout. To burn energy you need something that increases your breathing and makes you sweat and burn calories quickly. Suggesting benching weights as a way to lose weight is insane.

Which means absolutely squat, doing freeweight exercises and expending energy means you will still lose weight, here's the evidence

http://www.johnstonefitness.com/php/enlarge.php?i=123.jpg

For those interested: John was an overweight computer tech/admin and he used to be thin and into sports when he was younger, when he hit his 30's he got fed up with being fat and started to do something about it and he recorded it on his personal blog. Check out the pictures section.

He took pictures of himself daily/weekly/monthly every single year and seeing them all collated is very inspiring and not to mention - it shows the progress that we can barely notice while doing it ourselves but it becomes amazing when you actually document your weightloss.

John was one of the people that originally inspired me to get off my ass and *do something* about my weight.

Now do I take some responsibility for my weight. Sure. Absolutely. Do I think that it's as easy for me to lose weight as a good portion of the population. Hell no.

Sigh, I'm not even going to say anything about this.

Yes, and most of us want to join the freaking army, eat rabbit food and excercise 2-3 hours a day for the rest of our lives. Yeah, that's real sustainable.

You clearly know nothing about weight loss.

It's clear that you are full of shit, anyone that exercises regularly can see through this malarky in

"Exercise can be important but it's far more difficult."

Exercise becomes easy with commitment, and starting off with low key aerobics and working ones way up, you don't bite off more then you can choose all at once. One just needs to find good inspiration/support. I started my whole exercise program when I came across this guy.

http://www.johnstonefitness.com/php/pictures.php

He used to do a blog on his personal website and then a company wanted to sponsored him because he was so inspirational to a lot of people, look at the pictures and check out the story very interesting.

Once you start seeing the pounds drop off you it's a self-fulfilling feedback cycle, you get a "hit" for seeing the weight go down, especially when you chart it using a program like fitday, when I looked at the charts I was like "holy shit!!" and you start getting really really motivated to do it because the feedback is so in your face and direct.

Truth is once you lose the weight the ease of wich you get laid and your relationships with everyone improve and your life becomes 1000x better because the subconscious social prejudice and being ignored is severely reduced if not eliminated completely, people start to approach you of their own volition and smile more, you start getting noticed and you notice it right away, for people that have been overweight for a long time its like entering a completely different world they never knew existed.

Harness the analytical and the fastidious.

John Stone Fitness really impressed me. He applied an almost OCD level of detail to his diet and exercise regime and kept records of the results.

iirc, he works at home and has a home gym. Check out the animated gif of his first results. Very impressive.

Indoor bike /w resistance + walking (cardio), also some weight training at home. You should brun at least 800 calories a day worth of workout, and keep yourself eating just under 1800 cals for the first week to see results on the scale. Cut out ALL sugary drinks, move to water, and just eat what you do normally. You don't have to radically change your diet, but you DO have to burn off more then you take in. Cardio (biking, walking, running) combined with free weight strength training are the best ways to lose weight.

If you're going to walk: At least 2 hours a day 7/days a week + freeweights + indoor bike (note that distnace is more important then time, you can walk faster, do more distance, etc)

If you're going to run, google articles on running, you have to build yourself up slowly to learn how to sustain yourself running over time, it's basically similar to the above, except you do less time running once you've gotten up to a full hour at least without stopping too much, add in some freeweight training, etc.

Great sites to get you started:

http://www.fitday.com/ (tracking what you eat)
http://www.johnstonefitness.com/

That is pretty much the way to go!

check out some john stone

http://www.johnstonefitness.com/all/front/m.php

This guy managed to weightgain. It's doable. Don't expects results quite like him since he's got a pretty vicious regimen, but you can get something.

It's based on eating a ton of clean calories(not just random junkfood calories, actual nutrious food). About a 40% protein, 40% carb, 20% fat balance in your diet. You want a large caloric excess, combined with weight training. Wait at least 3 months into the regimen before giving up.

For a weight training regimen, google Rippetoe: Starting Strength. Don't necessarily need the book since the principles are straightforward enough that you can probably get enough of the info from the relevant posting regarding the book on bodybuilding.com

Look at this guy's site: johnstonefitness.com.
He was overweight, pale and ill (as I am right now). He had balls to change himself and recorded progress every month, you literally can watch him leaning, bulking... Pretty cool.

When I see groups playing DDR, it always looks like a support group for the socially inept. So now, people are putting it forward not only as a pretense for a social life, but as a pretense for exercise.

If you want to get fit, be deliberate about it. If you don't want it to take too long, and you want results, check out what this guy did.